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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
I agree but outside of Giroux and Voracek, there isn't much on the talent side. You can argue Simmonds but he is more of a PP scorer but after that? You still need guys that can play.
- Daveflyers36



Simmonds is also a good scorer at 5 on 5 play. He needs a playmaker to play with, which would see his ES production improve.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
And I have zero doubt that once his suspension is over, Coach Face Punch will plug him right back in the lineup.
- PLindbergh31


No (frank)ing doubt. That guy can't do anything to get on their bad side.

Gus and Akeson can't even look Chief in the eye, or they get expunged.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
No idea what you're trying to say here.

So sure, they like Rinaldo over Akeson for the 4th-line... but we're talking about a 2nd-line spot right now.

Not to mention, when Akeson was actually up, he was stuck in that 4th-line role.


- Tomahawk



Do you think the Flyers see Rinaldo as a full time 2nd line winger? Akeson was stuck on the 4th line because he wasn't better then the players who were playing there at the time.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
No (frank)ing doubt. That guy can't do anything to get on their bad side.

Gus and Akeson can't even look Chief in the eye, or they get expunged.

- Tomahawk


Berube has a soft spot in his heart for players with brain damage.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
Doesn't Boston have our 2nd this year? (via the Isles)
- JW98FlyerFan


Flyers kept the receipt.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
How'd you get it back from Boston?
- Tomahawk

Is not it NYI for #47?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
The truly limiting factor to me is that even if they bring this style, their D just isn't good enough. I watched closely last night and the fumbling and bumbling of passes between D, and between D and forwards just shows me that they don't have what it takes. All those little errors add up and eithe cause turnovers directly or waste effort. Until that gets fixed, there can't be any consisitency even if they're fired up.
- Hextall271

i totally agree. Its good to know that right now we have some serious defensive promise in our talent pool.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
For all the uproar, I really expected more from this hit...



It was a stupid play, his teammates should be mad, but I thought I'd be seeing a flying elbow into Letang's skull or something. (was trying to catch up on some Homeland...I stupidly assumed the lifeless Flyers were going to be in the building again tonight.)

Edit: Hopefully Letang is ok, just a little woozy, no concussion.

- wolfhounds

okay take the pads off put them in tights and take away all contact... im sorry you guys are all over reacting. theres dirtier hits than this every game. this sissified contact stuff turned me off from football... is he a shining exame of class? hell no but he could've hit letang a lot worse.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
And I do agree with the earlier post that the Flyers do need to consistantly play with more of an edge but without good players, it isn't going to help very much.
- Daveflyers36



If the Flyers played with the energy and emotion they played with last night, but smarter, it would help immensely. If they did that, they'd probably be in the playof hunt right now.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
Is not it NYI for #47?
- missingmike


Ironically, it went to Boston for the Chris Drury lookalike.

10/10 post, btw.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
If the Flyers played with the energy and emotion they played with last night, but smarter, it would help immensely. If they did that, they'd probably be in the playof hunt right now.
- MJL



Personally I think a lack of talent on D is our problem, not lack of intelligence.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
Simmonds is also a good scorer at 5 on 5 play. He needs a playmaker to play with, which would see his ES production improve.
- MJL

He really has not shown that too much in his career here in Philly. 47% of his goals while in O&B have come on the PP.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
If the Flyers played with the energy and emotion they played with last night, but smarter, it would help immensely. If they did that, they'd probably be in the playof hunt right now.
- MJL

They would be in the hunt, but their lack of quality d-men still would drag them down.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
i totally agree. Its good to know that right now we have some serious defensive promise in our talent pool.
- jak521


That's the part that needs fixing. Might take a few years, but I expect some of those prospects to pan out.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
Personally I think a lack of talent on D is our problem, not lack of intelligence.
- Daveflyers36

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
Do you think the Flyers see Rinaldo as a full time 2nd line winger? Akeson was stuck on the 4th line because he wasn't better then the players who were playing there at the time.
- MJL


Nevermind.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Nevermind.
- Tomahawk


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Personally I think a lack of talent on D is our problem, not lack of intelligence.
- Daveflyers36



Certainly the lack of a top defense pairing is one of the Flyers biggest issues personnel wise, but that doesn't change that playing with more emtion and fire would help this team a lot.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
That's the part that needs fixing. Might take a few years, but I expect some of those prospects to pan out.
- Hextall271

http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hoc...liated-prospects-1.183391
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Nevermind.
- Tomahawk


Now you're learning!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
He really has not shown that too much in his career here in Philly. 47% of his goals while in O&B have come on the PP.
- jak521



Which means that 53% of his goals have come at ES.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
Certainly the lack of a top defense pairing is one of the Flyers biggest issues personnel wise, but that doesn't change that playing with more emtion and fire would help this team a lot.
- MJL

It would certainly help, but it would only go so far.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
They would be in the hunt, but their lack of quality d-men still would drag them down.
- jak521



I agree, if they got in the playoffs, a lack of a legitimate top defense pair would hurt them.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
All I have to say is I hate you all. I had guests over last night so I missed the game - all but overtime...
Sigh.
I'm glad we won, now hopefully some of our injured players and those who are banged up can come back healed. I miss Mason, Grossmann, Coburn, and even Laughton!
I'd be fine with Rinaldo being suspended and then tossed back to the AHL. Let's bury his contract and keep moving.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
Which means that 53% of his goals have come at ES.
- MJL

I understand the math. The point is that his goal scoring is really dependent on success on the PP.
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