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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:12 PM ET
You can decline? Wish things worked like that in the real world.

"Sorry, your Honor, but I don't feel like making the trip to court...'Contempt'? Can't you just charge me or fine me or whatever without me being there? Additional time and/or money? I knew should have played hockey..."

- tangent_man


They'll only accept a skype call into the hearing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 6:13 PM ET
do we need to revisit james neal 2012 playoffs?
- JoeRussomanno


Oh, so you want to use the kid excuse of, "Well they did it first?"

James Neal is a cheap, dirty player. Not sure why that excuses Rinaldo or justifies in any way shape or form what he did.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:13 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/flyers-reportedly-planned-penguins-brawl-over-dinner-214943521-nhl.html



- 2Real

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:13 PM ET
They'll only accept a skype call into the hearing.
- ob18


So, if you delete one comment, they both go...huh.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
Oh, so you want to use the kid excuse of, "Well they did it first?"

James Neal is a cheap, dirty player. Not sure why that excuses Rinaldo or justifies in any way shape or form what he did.

- Jsaquella


I could be wrong, but he might have meant Neal hit the suspension checklist and threw an elbow at Giroux and only got one game
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
So, if you delete one comment, they both go...huh.
- tangent_man


Not on my screen, I see just one removed.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/flyers-reportedly-planned-penguins-brawl-over-dinner-214943521-nhl.html



- 2Real

Does that mean Malkin and Crosby plan their dirty plays over breakfast?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
Oh, so you want to use the kid excuse of, "Well they did it first?"

James Neal is a cheap, dirty player. Not sure why that excuses Rinaldo or justifies in any way shape or form what he did.

- Jsaquella

you're missing my point. he only got that much of a penalty cause of his name. james neal went around for like a whole shift throwing those hits before an arm even went up. as far as cheap and dirty just about every player out there is doing something dirty at one point or another.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
So, if you delete one comment, they both go...huh.
- tangent_man



Yes, that's why when the DoPS releases the statement, it says they offered the player an in-person hearing. The player still has a hearing either way. Carcillo declined his in-person hearing when he broke Perreault's arm.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
Not on my screen, I see just one removed.
- ob18


I got nothing. It's cool though...I know what I said.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:17 PM ET
I got nothing. It's cool though...I know what I said.
- tangent_man


I never removed your comment at all.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:17 PM ET


Yes, that's why when the DoPS releases the statement, it says they offered the player an in-person hearing. The player still has a hearing either way. Carcillo declined his in-person hearing when he broke Perreault's arm.

- Jsaquella


Guess it saves the guys on the board the trouble of stifling their cries of 'dippoop' and 'bumhole'.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:17 PM ET
you're missing my point. he only got that much of a penalty cause of his name. james neal went around for like a whole shift throwing those hits before an arm even went up. as far as cheap and dirty just about every player out there is doing something dirty at one point or another.
- JoeRussomanno


In my opinion if Claude Giroux leveled the same hit, he would've gotten a 5 minute major and a game misconduct also.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 6:18 PM ET
you're missing my point. he only got that much of a penalty cause of his name. james neal went around for like a whole shift throwing those hits before an arm even went up. as far as cheap and dirty just about every player out there is doing something dirty at one point or another.
- JoeRussomanno


Not missing your point. Neal has started to earn more and more of a rep as a dirty player.

Rinaldo spent a year in the AHL and had more suspensions than goals.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:18 PM ET
I never removed your comment at all.
- ob18


I did. Double post.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:19 PM ET
Not missing your point. Neal has started to earn more and more of a rep as a dirty player.

Rinaldo spent a year in the AHL and had more suspensions than goals.

- Jsaquella


So you thinking reputation is a valid reason to extend suspensions?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 6:19 PM ET
Guess it saves the guys on the board the trouble of stifling their cries of 'dippoop' and 'bumhole'.
- tangent_man


If you know you're going to get hammered, why spend the time traveling to New York? Just easier to pick up the phone, get suspended for 8 games and move on with life.

3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 21 @ 6:19 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/flyers-reportedly-planned-penguins-brawl-over-dinner-214943521-nhl.html



- 2Real



Got I hate the Pens even more now. I didn't think it was possible
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:20 PM ET
So you thinking reputation is a valid reason to extend suspensions?
- aflyerpower8


Repeat offender status certainly is.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:20 PM ET
I did. Double post.
- tangent_man


I didn't see a double post, saw one from landros 2 though
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 21 @ 6:20 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/flyers-reportedly-planned-penguins-brawl-over-dinner-214943521-nhl.html



- 2Real

aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jan 21 @ 6:21 PM ET
Repeat offender status certainly is.
- MJL


Fair enough, but I still think the hit should be the primary focus when suspending someone
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
So you thinking reputation is a valid reason to extend suspensions?
- aflyerpower8


Nope. I think repeatedly committing suspendable and fineable acts is a valid reason to get a longer suspension.

I think that a guy with a reputation as a dirty player should not get the benefit of the doubt from refs, unless he actually makes an effort to change as a player. I have zero issue with a guy like Rinaldo getting called more closely than a player who doesn't have a reputation as a thug.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
If you know you're going to get hammered, why spend the time traveling to New York? Just easier to pick up the phone, get suspended for 8 games and move on with life.
- Jsaquella


I get that, but I'm thinking that a disciplinary hearing oughta be mandatory.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 21 @ 6:23 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/flyers-reportedly-planned-penguins-brawl-over-dinner-214943521-nhl.html



- 2Real


Like that never happens....a little paranoid though.
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