i dread baseball every year no matter what the phillies are doing
- Just5

baseball is only enjoyable seeing it at the ball park. And I'm not sure if thats mainly for the beers and food.

Looking at forwards, defenseman, and goaltenders, I don't think that's unreasonable. I think a case can be made for that pretty easily.


Toews
Kane
Keith
Giroux
Bergeron
Chara
Rinne
Weber
Doughty
Kopitar

Also have other players I would add before Ovechkin.
- MJL

You could make 2 or 3 more lists of that size with different players better than Ovechkin.

That is why I would never put Ovechkin in my top 10 players in the league. I wont even consider it. I dont care how many goals he scores.
- GOA88

Top 10 forward? Probably. Player? I have Crosby, Toews, Doughty, Weber, Stamkos, Rinne, Seguin, Benn, Bergeron, Price, Kane ahead of him. That's in no particular order and there are still some others ahead of him too.

the most impressive part....he never kicks a puck
- nails

I wouldn't call it the most impressive part because stickhandling like that is insane, but that he didn't kick a puck is very impressive.

i wonder if their close to goalie cams...would be cool to see what he has to look through on point shots and would make the shoot out more interesting

i wonder if their close to goalie cams...would be cool to see what he has to look through on point shots and would make the shoot out more interesting
- Just5

That would be great in a real game.

Top 10 forward? Probably. Player? I have Crosby, Toews, Doughty, Weber, Stamkos, Rinne, Seguin, Benn, Bergeron, Price, Kane ahead of him. That's in no particular order and there are still some others ahead of him too.
- NickTheKid87

Not even in my top 10 forwards. The dude has ton of skill, dont get me wrong. He just lacks in a lot of areas.

Crosby
Giroux
Getzlaf
Perry
Kane
Toews
Stamkos
Malkin
Voracek
Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Seguin
Bergeron
St.Louis
Tavares
Kopitar

All of which I would rather have on my team.

Silkiest set of mitts in the League.
- PLindbergh31

Only until we land McDavid

It's the only All-star that actually has an impact correct? Doesn't decide whether NL or AL gets home field advantage for World Series?
- arichardson22

Yes that is correct.

Plus, pitchers aren't going to go easy because they don't want to get knocked around. Batters aren't going to go easy because they don't want to look bad at the plate. Fielders want to make sure they make the plays in the field because they don't want to be charged with an error.

The individual nature of the game lends itself to great sport in an all star setting.

Only until we land McDavid
- ob18

I believe!
Oh wait....

Only until we land McDavid
- ob18

From your keyboard to gods ears!

- Feanor

Hell of a right cross! Nice Belly!!

Yes that is correct.

Plus, pitchers aren't going to go easy because they don't want to get knocked around. Batters aren't going to go easy because they don't want to look bad at the plate. Fielders want to make sure they make the plays in the field because they don't want to be charged with an error.

The individual nature of the game lends itself to great sport in an all star setting.
- MBFlyerfan

Wasn't sure if that changed in last few years. But i agree, can't really half arse your play in it. Plus usually the players deserving of the all star game are voted into play. Always enjoy HR derby too. boy those guys can smoke the ball

I wouldn't call it the most impressive part because stickhandling like that is insane, but that he didn't kick a puck is very impressive.
- Scoob

I don't know. skating always trumps stick handling to me
The whole thing is amazing.
I can't imagine being able to be so focused on the puck movement to get it cleanly through, not touch another puck with your stick, and oh by the way, have enough peripheral vision to avoid all the pucks with my feet.

Double post
- MBFlyerfan

Get out.

Not even in my top 10 forwards. The dude has ton of skill, dont get me wrong. He just lacks in a lot of areas.

Crosby
Giroux
Getzlaf
Perry
Kane
Toews
Stamkos
Malkin
Voracek
Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Seguin
Bergeron
St.Louis
Tavares
Kopitar

All of which I would rather have on my team.
- GOA88

Fair enough. Condense it to wingers and I think he finally makes a top 10


Voracek (this year at least)
Zetterberg
Kane
Perry
Kessel
Ovechkin
Benn (if you consider him LW)
Ladd
Pacioretty
Tarasenko (this year)
Okposo
Nash
Hossa
Wheeler
St. Louis
Palat

Ovi's at least in this discussion.

Fair enough. Condense it to wingers and I think he finally makes a top 10


Voracek (this year at least)
Zetterberg
Kane
Perry
Kessel
Ovechkin
Benn (if you consider him LW)
Ladd
Pacioretty
Tarasenko (this year)
Okposo
Nash
Hossa
Wheeler
St. Louis
Palat

Ovi's at least in this discussion.
- NickTheKid87

You forgot Umberger

- Feanor

Oh, now you're just trying to start trouble.

Only until we land McDavid
- ob18

We can dream. Though after looking through all of the prospects in the top ten, I think this team is going to get a damned good player no matter what.

I would really like to see Hexy get at least 1 2nd round pick back in trade for this draft. It looks as if there will be plenty of NHL level players available through the 3rd round.

- Feanor

That is quite the haymaker from Frenchie!

I believe!
Oh wait....
- FlyersGrace

Don't complete that thought...

- Feanor

He got his Bellamare rung!

From your keyboard to gods ears!
- PLindbergh31

For me he's among many I'd like via the draft.

Check out Timo Meier of the Halifax Mooseheads would be a nice add if they can snag more picks

- Feanor

He accepted that punch very well