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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:04 AM ET



- wolfhounds



Fact: That guy could school any of us, any time, anywhere.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
Damn it. You respect my suggestion!
- wolfhounds

HAHA, Theres some pretty sick ass hands out there man. Giroux, Oshie, Malkin, Crosby, Datsyuk, Nyquist, Drouin, Stamkos, St.Louis, etc., etc. but Kane is on another level and I dont have some love affair for Kane either. Just respect his puckhandling skills.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
I'm a pest, so I don't really need to stickhandle.
- nails



Im 220, so I try to keep close to you. The leagues I have played in are non checking so I cant hit anyone. But Ill lean on you as best I can.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
I think some of those pucks were edited in after the fact.
- twotoekenn


Some of the peripheral ones, I think so. The ones Kane is actually "using" I don't think so.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
I think some of those pucks were edited in after the fact.
- twotoekenn


Maybe, but he definitely moves one with his foot at the end... There's a clear path for him in the puck layout. Not that it's even remotely easy. And who knows how many takes it took for him to get it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
I like what Rask has to say. Stay in your lane.
- MBFlyerfan


Seriously. Stay on your (frank)ing feet too, dmen.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
HAHA, Theres some pretty sick ass hands out there man. Giroux, Oshie, Malkin, Crosby, Datsyuk, Nyquist, Drouin, Stamkos, St.Louis, etc., etc. but Kane is on another level and I dont have some love affair for Kane either. Just respect his puckhandling skills.
- GOA88


As somebody said earlier...I'm glad he's not on the Flyers. Too much skill, he'd make Rinaldo feel bad about himself.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
Seriously. Stay on your (frank)ing feet too, dmen.
- Tomahawk



And don't ever, EVER put your stick out to try and knock down or deflect an airborn shot. This isn't baseball.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
As somebody said earlier...I'm glad he's not on the Flyers. Too much skill, he'd make Rinaldo feel bad about himself.
- wolfhounds

I would kill to have Giroux and Kane on the same line.

Those two would light the world on fire.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
Seriously. Stay on your (frank)ing feet too, dmen.
- Tomahawk



I agree with that in most cases because the timing of it has to be perfect, or you take yourself out of the play. I've seen Timonen slide down to break up two on one's though on a bunch of occasions. Not something you want to do often, but when doen right, it can be effective.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
And don't ever, EVER put your stick out to try and knock down or deflect an airborn shot. This isn't baseball.
- MBFlyerfan

unless you were a career .330 hitter and you know you can knock it down. preferably into the 10th row of seats
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
I would kill to have Giroux and Kane on the same line.

Those two would light the world on fire.

- GOA88



Imagine them with Simmonds parked in front of the net.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:09 AM ET


Fact: That guy could school any of us, any time, anywhere.

- Scoob


Absolutely. I'd be all like...


GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
Imagine them with Simmonds parked in front of the net.
- MBFlyerfan

ORRRRRR..... Voracek!!!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
I guess right now is it safe to say that McDavid and Eichel have a chance to be generational talents, while about another 10 or so players have a chance to be terrific players at the NHL level?
- PLindbergh31


I'd say more than 10 more players
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
I agree with that in most cases because the timing of it has to be perfect, or you take yourself out of the play. I've seen Timonen slide down to break up two on one's though on a bunch of occasions. Not something you want to do often, but when doen right, it can be effective.
- MJL


I love playing against D men that go belly down on an odd man rush.
It's the guy that goes down to one knee that creates trouble.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
I would kill to have Giroux and Kane on the same line.

Those two would light the world on fire.

- GOA88


There's probably some law of physics they'd be breaking that would cause the universe to unravel with their skills.

I don't even want to think about G, Jake and Kane on the same team... Although maybe we get a to see a light version of that at the ASG.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
Claude Giroux has some pretty dirty hands but he would look pedestrian next to Kane.
- GOA88


Rob Schremp might just be one of the most purely skilled players ever, but he couldn't do any of that poop under pressure, lol. G might have a shade lesser hands, but his execution under pressure is ridiculous.

Too bad for Schremp that hockey doesn't have an And1 team, lol.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
I'd say more than 10 more players
- ob18


Great to hear. Flyers should end up with a great prospect. Slowly but surely the pipeline is starting to be stocked.

Do you think any players other than McDavid and Eichel will start in the NHL?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
Anyone read Panotchs article on CSNPhilly? Its not bad. The one thing that I laugh at is people saying Homer created a mess and got a "promotion". You know what promotion he got? The same one Roseman got. Here is some money and new title now step aside.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
I agree with that in most cases because the timing of it has to be perfect, or you take yourself out of the play. I've seen Timonen slide down to break up two on one's though on a bunch of occasions. Not something you want to do often, but when doen right, it can be effective.
- MJL


Stretching out to break up a pass... maybe OK in certain circumstances.

But man, do I hate when after a goal you see one dman's sprawled out at the goalie's feet, and the other's behind him in the butterfly... you just know the goalie just wants to blocker punch them both in the nuts.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
There's probably some law of physics they'd be breaking that would cause the universe to unravel with their skills.

I don't even want to think about G, Jake and Kane on the same team... Although maybe we get a to see a light version of that at the ASG.

- wolfhounds

Best line ever??? Could be close.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 10:16 AM ET
Stretching out to break up a pass... maybe OK in certain circumstances.

But man, do I hate when after a goal you see one dman's sprawled out at the goalie's feet, and the other's behind him in the butterfly... you just know the goalie just wants to blocker punch them both in the nuts.

- Tomahawk



On the overwhelming majority of plays, it's not a good idea. Mostly done in a panic and it just creates further chaos.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:17 AM ET
Interesting.

Jack Eichel and Connor McDavid need to succeed. Considering the absurd amount of hype around these two prospects, it’s vital that they’re put in spots that have high potential for growth.

They must go to places where they can help push the game to new and unseen heights. They need to go to places that have never seen prodigies with their prodigious skill sets.

In that case … for the love of god please Arizona and Carolina tank. Tank worse than you’ve ever tanked before in your history. Do all in your power to make sure Eichel and McDavid don’t end up with Edmonton and Buffalo, the two poster children for crappola franchises.

We need one of you to save hockey in the desert. We need the other to be the heir apparent to Eric Staal and bring back the playoff hockey tailgates we knew and loved in Carolina’s runs to the Cup Final.

The last thing we need is for either to end up in Edmonton/Hoth or the recovering industrial paradise known as Buffalo – though one would get a ton of national TV love with the latter.

To paraphrase Wayne’s World – you’re not worthy.


NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 23 @ 10:18 AM ET
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24981849/the-decline-of-the-shot-blocking-crease-clearing-defenseman

On the decline of crease clearing shot blocking Dmen

- Just5


Not a bad article but too heavy on anecdotal evidence and not enough raw information. Although I tend to agree with him. Rask's comments are particularly interesting. Does anyone think to ask the goalies how they want the defense in front of them to play?
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