No, still too many years for Richards at the end. AMac is the only one I'd consider with the length of the deal.
- jmatchett383

Ok, so all we need to do is trade Amac and claim Richards on waivers.

And Vinny
- 3flyerkids

Nope. Vinny's deal is smaller and half the length. Richards is signed through 2019-20.

Ok, so all we need to do is trade Amac and claim Richards on waivers.
- aflyerpower8

No, you let him (theoretically) pass through waivers, and then trade them for each other.

No, still too many years for Richards at the end. AMac is the only one I'd consider with the length of the deal.
- jmatchett383

Flyers have plenty of Centers, they don't have many quality defenseman like MacDonald.

Andrew MacDonald?
- jmatchett383

No. MacDonald is a 4/5 defenseman imo. He's overpaid, but 4/5 defenseman hold much more value than 3rd/4th line centers. Richards decline has been so steep that I wouldn't be surprised if he was a 13th forward in a couple years. MacDonald should be able to hold his value for at least another 3 years.

Even though the cap won't be increasing much, it will be increasing over the next few years. His contract may be not look as bad if he remains a 4/5 defenseman in 3 years.

Richards contract will always look bad unless he miraculously becomes a top 6 forward in his 30s.

The short term cap hit will be more, while the long term will save the flyers 1 year on the contract. Not worth it imo

No, you let him (theoretically) pass through waivers, and then trade them for each other.
- jmatchett383

That really limits our options for trading Amac

Flyers have plenty fo Centers, they don't have many quality defenseman like MacDonald.
- MJL

Not biting, sorry.

Flyers have plenty of Centers, they don't have many quality defenseman like MacDonald.
- MJL

No. MacDonald is a 4/5 defenseman imo. He's overpaid, but 4/5 defenseman hold much more value than 3rd/4th line centers. Richards decline has been so steep that I wouldn't be surprised if he was a 13th forward in a couple years. MacDonald should be able to hold his value for at least another 3 years.

Even though the cap won't be increasing much, it will be increasing over the next few years. His contract may be not look as bad if he remains a 4/5 defenseman in 3 years.

Richards contract will always look bad unless he miraculously becomes a top 6 forward in his 30s.

The short term cap will rise, while the long term will save the flyers 1 year on the contract. Not worth it imo
- PhillySportsGuy

I'd do it. Maybe with the heart over the head, but I'd do it.

Not biting, sorry.
- jmatchett383

Wasn't looking for a bite, simply stating my opinion.

That really limits our options for trading Amac
- aflyerpower8

That happened as soon as they signed him to the extension.

Nope. Vinny's deal is smaller and half the length. Richards is signed through 2019-20.
- Jsaquella

I was talking Vinny+ Happy Meal... But i know Kings don't have room

I'd do it. Maybe with the heart over the head, but I'd do it.
- jmatchett383

He would be hated within 3 weeks

He would be hated within 3 weeks
- PhillySportsGuy

3 weeks longer than it would take for AMac.

Okay, AMac for Richards -$1M?

Flyers have plenty of Centers, they don't have many quality defenseman like MacDonald.
- MJL

Even if you don't like McDonald, it doesn't make much sense: Swapping out six years of an overpaid defenseman (bear with me) for six years of an even more overpaid forward doesn't help, especially on a team with two multi-year overpaid forwards on the roster, and with a mobility problem on the blueline.

NHL.com early mock draft

http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_news.htm?id=750137
- ob18

Marner

(Kylington)

Even if you don't like McDonald, it doesn't make much sense: Swapping out six years of an overpaid defenseman (bear with me) for six years of an even more overpaid forward doesn't help, especially on a team with two multi-year overpaid forwards on the roster, and with a mobility problem on the blueline.
- BulliesPhan87

I fail to see how this trade impacts our blue line mobility negatively.

Even if you don't like McDonald, it doesn't make much sense: Swapping out six years of an overpaid defenseman (bear with me) for six years of an even more overpaid forward doesn't help, especially on a team with two multi-year overpaid forwards on the roster, and with a mobility problem on the blueline.
- BulliesPhan87

Convert VL to defense... he could be our Byfuglien.

Our offer to take him for Vinny and Amac was shot down?
- aflyerpower8

3 weeks longer than it would take for AMac.

Okay, AMac for Richards -$1M?
- jmatchett383

Probably not. It's just a ton of money and years tied up in your bottom 6 (I would argue bottom line)

I fail to see how this trade impacts our blue line mobility.
- jmatchett383

Where does AMac rank among our NHL defensemen in mobility?

Even if you don't like McDonald, it doesn't make much sense: Swapping out six years of an overpaid defenseman (bear with me) for six years of an even more overpaid forward doesn't help, especially on a team with two multi-year overpaid forwards on the roster, and with a mobility problem on the blueline.
- BulliesPhan87

Agreed. I don't like MacDonald, but I think he's a better player than Richards right now and projects to be over the next few years

Where does AMac rank among our NHL defensemen in mobility?
- BulliesPhan87

Where does Peter Dinklage rank among world's tallest dwarfs?

Where does Peter Dinklage rank among world's tallest dwarfs?
- jmatchett383

idk, I don't know much about dwarfs

Probably not. It's just a ton of money and years tied up in your bottom 6 (I would argue bottom line)
- PhillySportsGuy

It's even more years (and with $1M retained, more money) tied up on your bottom defense pairing.