How is Richards "broken down"? That's a term I've seen used to describe an injured/feeble kind of person, not a guy who is just not performing (and again, he still has 15 points playing with bad linemates on LA's 4th line).
- stashu

Symantecs. "In serious and prolonged decline"?

St. Louis is over the hill ??? really ?
- SABRES 89

Don't get me wrong, I'd take him in a second over Richards. The point is that the vets are around at a much cheaper price.

How is Richards "broken down"? That's a term I've seen used to describe an injured/feeble kind of person, not a guy who is just not performing (and again, he still has 15 points playing with bad linemates on LA's 4th line).
- stashu

Would be tied at 5th with Stewart.

Oh wow, Dustin Brown is having a crap year (again). LA should strip him of his C and if no one trades for him then waive him because he sucks.

HB logic.

Tell me the difference between Dustin Brown's .5ppg and slew-footing/kneeing/diving and Mike Richards's .4ppg, overall clean play and sound defensive game?

One was drafted by the team, one was traded for. One is the "Captain" and one is not. It has nothing to do with anything, really. But if you have a good, yes Mike Richards is good, center buried on a deep, under-performing team, on the 4th line no less, who cannot seem to score with career 4th liners and 10 minutes a night why pay him 5.5m when you can pay a guy under 1m to do the same thing? Why does someone HAVE to trade for the guy? It is LA's fault the stocked the cupboards too full and now they have to donate some to the food pantry because why the hell would anyone buy it? He is a victim of circumstance.

Quick note: LA's blogger seems to be under the impression that if he isn't picked up by another team he can be bought out this summer. Is this so?

Would be tied at 5th with Stewart.
- cabin

I already covered that, keep up.

He won't be, I posted something about it yesterday. I don't think they like the contract.
- SABRES 89

This is a serious question. I'm not anywhere near as familiar with the CBA Rules as a lot of you guys are.

If we pick up Richards on waivers, and decide in years 3, 4 and 5 that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, why cant we just waive him too? Do we get still stuck with the cap hit or something?

St. Louis is over the hill ??? really ?
- SABRES 89

Rangers, like the Kings, play a system where 2-1 games are the coaches style

no way is St. Louis over the hill

I really think we are going back and fourth about Richards for nothing, i'm sure the Sabres won't claim him and if they do i'll like it but be shocked at the same time. $5.75 isn't bad but the years are the killer. We are in the group of about 5 teams that can take him on.

Oh wow, Dustin Brown is having a crap year (again). LA should strip him of his C and if no one trades for him then waive him because he sucks.

HB logic.

Tell me the difference between Dustin Brown's .5ppg and slew-footing/kneeing/diving and Mike Richards's .4ppg, overall clean play and sound defensive game?

One was drafted by the team, one was traded for. One is the "Captain" and one is not. It has nothing to do with anything, really. But if you have a good, yes Mike Richards is good, center buried on a deep, under-performing team, on the 4th line no less, who cannot seem to score with career 4th liners and 10 minutes a night why pay him 5.5m when you can pay a guy under 1m to do the same thing? Why does someone HAVE to trade for the guy? It is LA's fault the stocked the cupboards too full and now they have to donate some to the food pantry because why the hell would anyone buy it? He is a victim of circumstance.

Quick note: LA's blogger seems to be under the impression that if he isn't picked up by another team he can be bought out this summer. Is this so?
- DynamicThreads

He can be bought out yes, It will count against LA's salary cap though unlike Leino and Ehrhoff.

Quick note: LA's blogger seems to be under the impression that if he isn't picked up by another team he can be bought out this summer. Is this so?
- DynamicThreads

Any player can be bought out in the summer, but it will count against their cap - half cap hit per year for twice the term I believe.

This is a serious question. I'm not anywhere near as familiar with the CBA Rules as a lot of you guys are.

If we pick up Richards on waivers, and decide in years 3, 4 and 5 that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, why cant we just waive him too? Do we get still stuck with the cap hit or something?
- Der Kaiser

I'm with you, I have no clue but Homie is here he would know.

This is a serious question. I'm not anywhere near as familiar with the CBA Rules as a lot of you guys are.

If we pick up Richards on waivers, and decide in years 3, 4 and 5 that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, why cant we just waive him too? Do we get still stuck with the cap hit or something?
- Der Kaiser

Any player can be waived, barring if they negotiated a NMC into their contract

He can be waived anytime, but it won't mean anyone would pick him up, especially if he's playing poor enough to be waived in 3, 4 or 5 years.

We still didn't get Olli

Sons of Liberty is a pretty descent show on TV

This is a serious question. I'm not anywhere near as familiar with the CBA Rules as a lot of you guys are.

If we pick up Richards on waivers, and decide in years 3, 4 and 5 that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, why cant we just waive him too? Do we get still stuck with the cap hit or something?
- Der Kaiser

Yes, because you can't simply waive a player and leave him on waivers. If he's not claimed within 24 hours, you either have to reclaim him, send him to the minors, or buy him out. All three of those scenarios count against your cap.

He can be bought out yes, It will count against LA's salary cap though unlike Leino and Ehrhoff.
- ImThatGuy

Any player can be bought out in the summer, but it will count against their cap - half cap hit per year for twice the term I believe.
- stashu

Thanks guys.

HB logic.

Tell me the difference between Dustin Brown's .5ppg and slew-footing/kneeing/diving and Mike Richards's .4ppg, overall clean play and sound defensive game?


- DynamicThreads

HB logic? No, it is the logic of the GM that has one two of the last three cups (and then every GM that has passed on him. You must know something that they don't.

From what I've read (not my opinion) there has always been a bit of an undercurrent of unhappiness with Brown's regular season play.

Sons of Liberty is a pretty descent show on TV
- homiedclown

MGS2?

We still didn't get Olli
- SABRES 89

Yes, because you can't simply waive a player and leave him on waivers. If he's not claimed within 24 hours, you either have to reclaim him, send him to the minors, or buy him out. All three of those scenarios count against your cap.
- buffalofan19

So the real issue isn't what his salary is for the next 5 years, but rather his caphit.

It's $5.75M. For comparison purposes, Moulson's cap hit is $5M for 4 years.

Richards: 47 5 10 15
Moulson: 44 7 13 20

MGS2?
- DynamicThreads

history channel

If Murray had any balls he would put Hodgson on waivers, Richards has 2 cups and now he's on waivers. Hodgson is a complete waste.
- SABRES 89

Woo i like this

Oh wow, Dustin Brown is having a crap year (again). LA should strip him of his C and if no one trades for him then waive him because he sucks.

HB logic.

Tell me the difference between Dustin Brown's .5ppg and slew-footing/kneeing/diving and Mike Richards's .4ppg, overall clean play and sound defensive game?

One was drafted by the team, one was traded for. One is the "Captain" and one is not. It has nothing to do with anything, really. But if you have a good, yes Mike Richards is good, center buried on a deep, under-performing team, on the 4th line no less, who cannot seem to score with career 4th liners and 10 minutes a night why pay him 5.5m when you can pay a guy under 1m to do the same thing? Why does someone HAVE to trade for the guy? It is LA's fault the stocked the cupboards too full and now they have to donate some to the food pantry because why the hell would anyone buy it? He is a victim of circumstance.

Quick note: LA's blogger seems to be under the impression that if he isn't picked up by another team he can be bought out this summer. Is this so?
- DynamicThreads

No. He's not. Not anymore.

If the Sabres don't put in a claim for Richards I expect the media to start crying that they are tanking on purpose again.

- homiedclown

Cannot believe SF let that guy walk just because of a 7-9 season. Granted, he is the guy who MADE COLIN KAEPERNICK a starting QB but still. Turned Alex Smith into a good QB, took his team to the SB and lost to his brother in an obvious Ray Lewis jerk-fest by the NFL and the team really didn't play terrible this year, just didn't play good and lost some games that could have went either way.