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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 12:13 PM ET
Agreed. I never liked the contract Streit was given but I admit, he has played well enough to earn it on most nights so far.

But he is 37 and there is evidence to show that a players skills diminish through age or injury as he gets older. Just look at, well, everyone.

Sell high. His stock probably won't be any higher now so it'd be a great time for Hexy to entertain any offers that cross his desk.

- 77rams


I think he has value to the team if for nothing else than a calm, veteran dman to help Ghost and the rest of the young D over the next 2 years as they transition to the NHL.

I'd move him, but not just to dump him for the best offer.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Hextall should pick up the phone and listen to offers for any player, and see what's out there. A firesale though is not a good idea. I think there is a possibility of a lot of disapointed fans after the deadline. Proabably a number of fans calling for Hextall's head also.
- MJL


I would be dissapointed if he can't get at least our 2nd pick back.
I would also be dissapointed if there was an offer for a 1st in return for Coburn that he didn't take.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Agreed. I never liked the contract Streit was given but I admit, he has played well enough to earn it on most nights so far.

But he is 37 and there is evidence to show that a players skills diminish through age or injury as he gets older. Just look at, well, everyone.

Sell high. His stock probably won't be any higher now so it'd be a great time for Hexy to entertain any offers that cross his desk.

- 77rams



There is also evidence of a lot of players continuing to play at a high level, into their late 30's. Streit hasn't had the same amount of wear and tear and tough minutes that a player like Timonen has had. Streit also hasn't played a high number of NHL games for a player his age. He's a top scoring defenseman at 37. I wouldn't expect a big dropoff in the next couple of years.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
We may not see eye to eye on some things, but this 100%.

If Akeson was an NHL-caliber player, he would have been picked up on waivers.

That said, he's a viable call-up, but the team probably knows what it has with him and wants to see what Straka can do.

- jmatchett383

yes he is a cup of coffee guy for a game or 2. agree with the straka thigns as well. though if it is only a game that doesnt make much sense imo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 12:15 PM ET
The one thing I didn't like watching the phantoms game the other night was Leier was not out there killing penalties at all. Akeson and even Gordon were the pk guys. Leier projects as a bottom 6 forward in the league going forward. Why wouldn't terry Murray have him out there working on the pk?
- Just5


AHL and NHL roles are different. Maybe the Phantoms don't feel that he's ready for PK duties yet, but he will grow into it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 12:16 PM ET
yes he is a cup of coffee guy for a game or 2. agree with the straka thigns as well. though if it is only a game that doesnt make much sense imo.
- rinaldo


I think they see Straka the way they saw Lauridsen a few years back. A guy who's more or less a finished product and has a (very small) window to impress.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
Flyers have 22 players is a Mike Richards trade coming

Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM ET
There is also evidence of a lot of players continuing to play at a high level, into their late 30's. Streit hasn't had the same amount of wear and tear and tough minutes that a player like Timonen has had. Streit also hasn't played a high number of NHL games for a player his age. He's a top scoring defenseman at 37. I wouldn't expect a big dropoff in the next couple of years.
- MJL



Streit is not going into his late 30's, he is already there.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM ET
Flyers have 22 players is a Mike Richards trade coming
- Winning


Not unless Kings eat 3 M a season and take Zombie from us
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
Streit is not going into his late 30's, he is already there.
- Daveflyers36



The sentence in my post that you quoted that stated that Streit is a top scoring defenseman at 37, didn't illustrate that I'm aware that he is in his late 30's?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
Not unless Kings eat 3 M a season and take Zombie from us
- 3flyerkids


The hysterical laughter you are hearing is courtesy of Dean Lombardi
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
Not unless Kings eat 3 M a season and take Zombie from us
- 3flyerkids



Kings are going to trade 5.75M in cap hit to take on over 7M in cap hits?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
The hysterical laughter you are hearing is courtesy of Dean Lombardi

- BiggE

Richards Giroux Voracek would be a beast of a line
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
Which defenseman do you think they could/should have gotten in the Columbus or LA trades? Doughty was likely untouchable, and Jack Johnson is atrocious defensively. Who else was there?
- jmatchett383



Who said the trades had to be with Colombus or LA. Were they the only teams interested? And I was wrong earlier, Pronger was hurt after the trades but even still, both Pronger and Kimmo were getting up their in age. A trade to team that would have given up a good d-man should have been in the cards. Problem was that Holmgren wanted to clear cap space so he could overpay for a lunatic goaltender.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM ET
Flyers have 22 players is a Mike Richards trade coming
- Winning

Kind of surprised the Devils or Sabres didn't take him.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
Flyers have 22 players is a Mike Richards trade coming
- Winning


Every Old City bartender is rooting for this.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM ET
Richards Giroux Voracek would be a beast of a line
- 2Real



Who plays center? Richie or Giroux?
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM ET
Richards Giroux Voracek would be a beast of a line
- 2Real



Who plays center? Richie or Giroux?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM ET
Kind of surprised the Devils or Sabres didn't take him.
- hereticpride


He'd be fine to add as veteran depth if he wasn't making so much money for such a long period of time.

He's basically been Wade Redden'd without the benefit of losing the cap hit.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM ET
The notion that the Flyers should try and trade pretty much their entire defense, is a bad idea.
- MJL


Just bc i say try to trade them, doesn't literally mean trade them all. It means explore options and see which few of that group gets a good return. Should have expanded more but did not mean trade them all before this deadline
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM ET
Who said the trades had to be with Colombus or LA. Were they the only teams interested? And I was wrong earlier, Pronger was hurt after the trades but even still, both Pronger and Kimmo were getting up their in age. A trade to team that would have given up a good d-man should have been in the cards. Problem was that Holmgren wanted to clear cap space so he could overpay for a lunatic goaltender.
- Daveflyers36



Even if he got a defenseman in the deal, how would that have changed the cap situation? A good D man likely would've been well paid, even possibly paid more then the players the Flyers did acquire in the deals. Again, Holmgren can't force a team to trade them a quality D man. Perhaps he tried to get a defenseman, but couldn't find a team willing to trade one. Is that a possibility?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
because much like gus and manning, akeson isnt a nhl player. so tired of hearing how these guys dont get a legit chance. If they were so good wouldnt you think an nhl team would make a trade for them? even a lousy 7th rd pick? yet no one is knocking on the door.
- rinaldo


Mark Giordano once had to go to the KHL b/c the Flames didn't think he was worth anything more than a QO and no other teams thought enough of him to trade for his rights.

Martin St. Louis was exposed in the 2000 expansion draft (at the same age as Arty) and neither Columbus nor Minnesota thought he was worth picking up for free.


NHL execs/scouts don't always get is right as a group. So many players fall through the cracks year after year... some get a second crack at it (like Gio and Marty) and never look back... most others are lost forever.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
I think they see Straka the way they saw Lauridsen a few years back. A guy who's more or less a finished product and has a (very small) window to impress.
- jmatchett383

giving him 1 game to imrpess isnt much of a chance. if they give him a somewhat extended look great. no issue with that at all.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
Every Old City bartender is rooting for this.
- johndewar

for some reason I read this as "Old City barber"
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
Kings are going to trade 5.75M in cap hit to take on over 7M in cap hits?
- MJL


I was joking.
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