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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago
Hexy says he will have an announcement on Kimmo in a day or two. Sounds like he might return if I'm reading tea leaves correctly.

- PhillySportsGuy



I hope that's right... It'd be great to see him back. Had we not lost him, I think we'd be right there for the playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
dam umberger was beast mode last night, and read seems to be mia...really expected more out of read.
- mydoglicks



Read had a strong game last night.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
can you imagine if kimmo made a glorious return
and laughton and ghost came back and were amazing
and we made the playoffs somehow
and won the cup
and it started raining money

man, that'd be great
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
yay just to help us enough so we pick mid round again
- mydoglicks


I think this is more about him going out on his own terms. It's a pride thing. He shouldn't play unless there is 0% chance of the blood clot medication being life threatening if he sustains a cut.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
Read had a strong game last night.
- MJL


dont remember his name mentioned much if at all, didn't bother looking his stats up either
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
can you imagine if kimmo made a glorious return
and laughton and ghost came back and were amazing
and we made the playoffs somehow
and won the cup
and it started raining money

man, that'd be great

- BulliesPhan87



Then we wouldn't be able to trade to get that 2nd round pick!
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
I think this is more about him going out on his own terms. It's a pride thing. He shouldn't play unless there is 0% chance of the blood clot medication being life threatening if he sustains a cut.
- PhillySportsGuy


its gotta be scary with that issue, any time one could break loose and boom
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:11 PM ET
dont remember his name mentioned much if at all, didn't bother looking his stats up either
- mydoglicks


I based it on watching him play, rather then how many times his name was mentioned, or what the stats were.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:11 PM ET
Just one of those weird things. I wouldn't be surprised if this just passes and he becomes Matt Read again. It just seems way too weird to have a guy consistently shoot 15% then suddenly drop to 3.4%
- PhillySportsGuy


I think having the damaged wheel has hurt his ability to get in to those better, higher % shooting positions. I think he will be fine, maybe not this season, but next season for sure.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:11 PM ET
can you imagine if kimmo made a glorious return
and laughton and ghost came back and were amazing
and we made the playoffs somehow
and won the cup
and it started raining money

man, that'd be great

- BulliesPhan87


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
This trade may have been proposed here a while back, but what would you guys think about Read to the Jets for a 2nd and the rights to Burmistrov if the Flyers are 10 points out of a playoff spot a month from now?
- Feanor


I'd look hard at it -- right now that pick is in the late-40s, but I would look at that one
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
Just one of those weird things. I wouldn't be surprised if this just passes and he becomes Matt Read again. It just seems way too weird to have a guy consistently shoot 15% then suddenly drop to 3.4%
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah, expected him to drop a few points from above-avg, but definitely not off a cliff like this. Variance is a real MF'er.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
its gotta be scary with that issue, any time one could break loose and boom
- mydoglicks


I wouldn't even chance it if I were him. I understand he has a ton of pride, but he has nothing left to prove imo. He'll be remembered as one of the best defenseman in Flyers history. He was the biggest (not only) reason the team was able to rebound so quickly after the season that will not be named imo.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
I'd look hard at it -- right now that pick is in the late-40s, but I would look at that one
- AllInForFlyers


Some cap relief, top-50 pick, comparable player (likely better), younger... What's not to like?

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
Some cap relief, top-50 pick, comparable player (likely better), younger... What's not to like?


- Tomahawk


All those, plus I wonder if Matt Read is truly a third-line player on an elite team.

He's an NHL player, for sure. But I don't know for sure if he is truly the answer on that third line when it gets heavy in the playoffs
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:20 PM ET
can you imagine if kimmo made a glorious return
and laughton and ghost came back and were amazing
and we made the playoffs somehow
and won the cup
and it started raining money

man, that'd be great

- BulliesPhan87

If it rained money, I wouldn't care if the Flyers lost out.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
All those, plus I wonder if Matt Read is truly a third-line player on an elite team.

He's an NHL player, for sure. But I don't know for sure if he is truly the answer on that third line when it gets heavy in the playoffs

- AllInForFlyers



Why because he has never succeeded in that role during the playoffs?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
can you imagine if kimmo made a glorious return
and laughton and ghost came back and were amazing
and we made the playoffs somehow
and won the cup
and it started raining money

man, that'd be great

- BulliesPhan87


That raining money thing could be a possibility.

The rest is too far fetched.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
I think having the damaged wheel has hurt his ability to get in to those better, higher % shooting positions. I think he will be fine, maybe not this season, but next season for sure.
- MBFlyerfan



Agree totally.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
I think having the damaged wheel has hurt his ability to get in to those better, higher % shooting positions. I think he will be fine, maybe not this season, but next season for sure.
- MBFlyerfan


I agree, and I suspect the team sees it the same way.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
Some cap relief, top-50 pick, comparable player (likely better), younger... What's not to like?


- Tomahawk



Burmistrov is not even close to being a comparable player to Read when he is healthy ,and would have to prove that he can be comparable or better in the future. I wouldn't be able to say" pass" quick enough
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
Why because he has never succeeded in that role during the playoffs?
- MBFlyerfan


Partially, but I acknowledge that the sample size is really small.

But he was the fourth line in 2012, not the third. He looked OK last year, but no one truly stood out on the roster.

I like Read as a player, but don't love him, you know? I really would like a bit more size on the wings

Jmo
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:29 PM ET
Partially, but I acknowledge that the sample size is really small.

But he was the fourth line in 2012, not the third. He looked OK last year, but no one truly stood out on the roster.

I like Read as a player, but don't love him, you know? I really would like a bit more size on the wings

Jmo

- AllInForFlyers



How good Read is in that role and the situations he plays in, is really underestimated. Read struggling this year, is one of the biggest reasons why the Flyers have had a sub par season. He is an extremely important player for this team.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:32 PM ET
All those, plus I wonder if Matt Read is truly a third-line player on an elite team.

He's an NHL player, for sure. But I don't know for sure if he is truly the answer on that third line when it gets heavy in the playoffs

- AllInForFlyers


He plays shutdown defensive minutes and averages 20+ goals and 40+ points per 82 games. He is definitely a 3rd line winger. He's not a bad 2nd line option either.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:34 PM ET
Burmistrov is not even close to being a comparable player to Read when he is healthy ,and would have to prove that he can be comparable or better in the future. I wouldn't be able to say" pass" quick enough
- MJL


Then I'd say you don't know much about Burmi.
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