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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:35 PM ET
Then I'd say you don't know much about Burmi.
- Tomahawk



I'd say you're simply guessing about Burmi. Talent and potential is one thing, reality is another.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
Some cap relief, top-50 pick, comparable player (likely better), younger... What's not to like?


- Tomahawk


It would be a complete lack of due diligence not to consider it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
He plays shutdown defensive minutes and averages 20+ goals and 40+ points per 82 games. He is definitely a 3rd line winger. He's not a bad 2nd line option either.
- NickTheKid87



He has put up 2nd line winger scoring numbers at ES while playing shutdown defensive minutes.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
can you imagine if kimmo made a glorious return
and laughton and ghost came back and were amazing
and we made the playoffs somehow
and won the cup
and it started raining money

man, that'd be great

- BulliesPhan87


Mason hits .930 and wins the Vezina
Ryan Lambert quits talking about hockey forever
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
It would be a complete lack of due diligence not to consider it.
- 77rams



You answer the phone and listen to the offer, then give a quick no! That's all the due diligence it would require, in my opinion.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
Then we wouldn't be able to trade to get that 2nd round pick!
- MJL

trade all the old defensemen, bring up all the prospects

nothing could possible go wrong

EDIT: err, possibly. That's... never happened before.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
Mason hits .930 and wins the Vezina
Ryan Lambert quits talking about hockey forever

- Feanor

omg

alas, it is the stuff of dreams
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:39 PM ET
trade all the old defensemen, bring up all the prospects

nothing could possible go wrong

- BulliesPhan87



Lauridsen is as good as any current Flyers defenseman!
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
You answer the phone and listen to the offer, then give a quick no! That's all the due diligence it would require, in my opinion.
- MJL


How has his game been in the KHL this year?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
How has his game been in the KHL this year?
- 77rams



Average, what do you think?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
New blog posted.... busy day in Voorhees.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
How has his game been in the KHL this year?
- 77rams



His stats don't impress me, but that is all I have to go on.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'd say you're simply guessing about Burmi. Talent and potential is one thing, reality is another.
- MJL


No guess. He was a good two-way player for WPG before he jumped the pond, at a very young age.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
How good Read is in that role and the situations he plays in, is really underestimated. Read struggling this year, is one of the biggest reasons why the Flyers have had a sub par season. He is an extremely important player for this team.
- MJL


Read's season is a factor, but bigger factors are the loss of Timonen, early injury to Coburn and the brutal early play of Wheels and Umberger, as the PK, which is clearly the biggest reason

Read could have helped things by scoring at a clip that was expected, but if he was right and all those other things were still as they are, they would still be in trouble

Matt Read having a good season or a bad one doesn't move you 10 points in the standings
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
Bruins place Simon Gagne on unconditional waivers
- Jsaquella


c'mon. put the band back together. gags, richie...get jvr and his -17 and briere for good measure.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago
Laughton skated today and is making progress, per Hexy.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m2 minutes ago
Per Hexy: Gostisbehere should be able to play next month.

- PhillySportsGuy



2018 here we come!!!!
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
Average, what do you think?
- MJL


He led his team in scoring last year. Third so far this year.

All the tools are there as per every scouting report I've read. I'd have to explore how his play would translate before I'd react with a knee-jerk response and dismiss the thought immediately.



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
Read's season is a factor, but bigger factors are the loss of Timonen, early injury to Coburn and the brutal early play of Wheels and Umberger, as the PK, which is clearly the biggest reason

Read could have helped things by scoring at a clip that was expected, but if he was right and all those other things were still as they are, they would still be in trouble

Matt Read having a good season or a bad one doesn't move you 10 points in the standings

- AllInForFlyers


Read's season is a big factor, and if he was putting out his regular output offensively, that would go a long way towards helping the Flyers. Also being more healthy would also lead to helping out on the PK. I think the post above is another indication of just how important Read is to this team, is overlooked. It may not be the biggest reason, but Read's subpar play is a big factor in the Flyers struggles this year. He is that important of a player.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
Read's season is a big factor, and if he was putting out his regular output offensively, that would go a long way towards helping the Flyers. Also being more healthy would also lead to helping out on the PK. I think the post above is another indication of just how important Read is to this team, is overlooked. It may not be the biggest reason, but Read's subpar play is a big factor in the Flyers struggles this year. He is that important of a player.
- MJL


We can agree to disagree on the impact -- no worries
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
He led his team in scoring last year. Third so far this year.

All the tools are there as per every scouting report I've read. I'd have to explore how his play would translate before I'd react with a knee-jerk response and dismiss the thought immediately.

- 77rams



Nothing knee jerk about it, that's just an assumption . I'm not willing to trade a player who is as important and as valuable as Read is, for a player who at this point only has potential, and has only produced average numbers in the KHL, which is a subpar league to the NHL. The 2nd round pick isn't enough of a sweetner to sway the balance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 3:00 PM ET
No guess. He was a good two-way player for WPG before he jumped the pond, at a very young age.
- Tomahawk


Absolutely a guess. His time in the NHL or the KHL doesn't point out that he's worth trading Read for him. It's absolutely just about hype, rather then the current reality. Burmistrov could develop later, neither you or I truly know if he will or won't. I'm sticking with the better player.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 3:02 PM ET
Absolutely a guess. His time in the NHL or the KHL doesn't point out that he's worth trading Read for him. It's absolutely just about hype, rather then the current reality. Burmistrov could develop later, neither you or I truly know if he will or won't. I'm sticking with the better player.
- MJL


Go you.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 3:12 PM ET
I'd say you're simply guessing about Burmi. Talent and potential is one thing, reality is another.
- MJL

and read is an old about to be over the hill player
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
btw whats this i hear about kimmo might be playing soon
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