Oh, cool. Thanks for actually responding unlike those other bumholes
- PhillySportsGuy

Were you asking about Sidney or Sindey?

See, you should've been clearer with your question.

I think it truly depends on the kinds of injuries you see; Schultz -- to my surprise -- has played well enough where you might get something in the 55-60, 65 range
- AllInForFlyers

Yup. Injuries drive up prices like crazy. Kubina for example.

Toronto feed for the Devils/Leafs game saying that even JvR is in play @ the TDL. Saying Toronto's probably going full-on rebuild.

I think it truly depends on the kinds of injuries you see; Schultz -- to my surprise -- has played well enough where you might get something in the 55-60, 65 range
- AllInForFlyers

I agree, injuries could force a teams hand, I just don't think he's going to fetch that. If they trade him, I hope you're right.

Were you asking about Sidney or Sindey?

See, you should've been clearer with your question.
- 77rams

Apologies

- hammarby31

The irony of it all, is that the advanced stats community sees +/- as a flawed stat. It's an official stat on NHL.com.

Toronto feed for the Devils/Leafs game saying that even JvR is in play @ the TDL. Saying Toronto's probably going full-on rebuild.
- Pixote Andolini

We were talking about that maybe...last week? There's something about JVR internally that someone might not like

I can't tell how much bloodletting there will be up there -- there should be some, but a couple of those contracts will be tricky. Not impossible, but trickier

We were talking about that maybe...last week? There's something about JVR internally that someone might not like

I can't tell how much bloodletting there will be up there -- there should be some, but a couple of those contracts will be tricky. Not impossible, but trickier
- AllInForFlyers

Would you trade Brayden Schenn for JVR?

Toronto feed for the Devils/Leafs game saying that even JvR is in play @ the TDL. Saying Toronto's probably going full-on rebuild.
- Pixote Andolini

Rebuild?

The kid is only 25, their top goal scorer, nearly a point a game player, and most likely still hasn't hit his stride yet.

Rebuild?

The kid is only 25, their top goal scorer, nearly a point a game player, and most likely still hasn't hit his stride yet.
- 77rams

His effort is inconsistent and he doesnt play defense.

Would you trade Brayden Schenn for JVR?
- MJL

I kind of like the way Schenn plays the game more than JVR. Although JVR will put up more points, Schenn is super young and has a lot of upside. I always found JVR kind of annoying, in a Carter like way when he was here.

Would you trade Brayden Schenn for JVR?
- MJL

Huh. That's...man.

That's one I'd have to consult with people about. JVR's more skilled and the better player right now. But I still maintain that if Schenn figures it out...there's another level there. You can see it sometimes, these flashes. And that level is something I think is as good as JVR could be, but a totally different way.

If that deal were on the table today, I honestly don't know what my answer would be. And I usually have an opinion about 99 percent of things

Huh. That's...man.

That's one I'd have to consult with people about. JVR's more skilled and the better player right now. But I still maintain that if Schenn figures it out...there's another level there. You can see it sometimes, these flashes. And that level is something I think is as good as JVR could be, but a totally different way.

If that deal were on the table today, I honestly don't know what my answer would be. And I usually have an opinion about 99 percent of things
- AllInForFlyers

I would make that deal in a heartbeat. The problem is that I don't think Toronto would.

The irony of it all, is that the advanced stats community sees +/- as a flawed stat. It's an official stat on NHL.com.



- MJL

I kind of like the way Schenn plays the game more than JVR. Although JVR will put up more points, Schenn is super young and has a lot of upside. I always found JVR kind of annoying, in a Carter like way when he was here.
- feelingkettle

Many times I've said that JVR is a good player, but is overrated by many. I'm going to steer clear of discussing Carter.

Kimmo

Honestly I can't believe people are okay with moving Giroux or Voracek.

1 legit superstar in his early prime.
Another player on the cusp of being a superstar leading the league in point entering his prime.

I would make that deal in a heartbeat. The problem is that I don't think Toronto would.
- MJL

They likely wouldn't, and I don't blame you -- because you'd have to truly believe that Schenn does get there before you would move a guy who's bagging 30

I'd honestly be wavering based on hope -- I really do want to believe there's another level that Schenn gets to, based on what he shows sometimes, but I've said many times that I just don't know if he ever gets there

Many times I've said that JVR is a good player, but is overrated by many. I'm going to steer clear of discussing Carter.

- MJL

A discussion on Carter would be highly entertaining and wide ranging.

Would you trade Brayden Schenn for JVR?
- MJL

i would take JVR our of that pairing.

They likely wouldn't, and I don't blame you -- because you'd have to truly believe that Schenn does get there before you would move a guy who's bagging 30

I'd honestly be wavering based on hope -- I really do want to believe there's another level that Schenn gets to, based on what he shows sometimes, but I've said many times that I just don't know if he ever gets there
- AllInForFlyers

Hard to believe JVR has only 12 more points than Schenn at this point.

They likely wouldn't, and I don't blame you -- because you'd have to truly believe that Schenn does get there before you would move a guy who's bagging 30

I'd honestly be wavering based on hope -- I really do want to believe there's another level that Schenn gets to, based on what he shows sometimes, but I've said many times that I just don't know if he ever gets there
- AllInForFlyers

I agree with you that there is another level in there for B Schenn. Just wondering when it's going to surface. He's scored 1 goal in the last 22 games.

Many times I've said that JVR is a good player, but is overrated by many. I'm going to steer clear of discussing Carter.

- MJL

Same view on JVR. I don't think I'd take him back unless it was a steal of a deal.

Like sending Luke back, covered head to toe with return to sender stickers.

I agree with you that there is another level in there for B Schenn. Just wondering when it's going to surface. He's scored 1 goal in the last 22 games.
- MJL

Ha! I just looked that up; I knew it had been forever but I honestly didn't want to know

Man, that kid can drive you to drink

- PhillySportsGuy

loud noises. i have no interest in fancy stats personally. i don't object to them being used in order to evaluate players or teams in an attempt to gain and edge and win. whatever they need to do. i just like to watch.