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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 29 @ 9:25 AM ET
Don't forget, moving Streit clears $5.25mm in cap space, which allows them to go after a free agent in the summer. Maybe if they dealt Streit, they could sign Sekera or Green or Martin as a UFA.
- Jsaquella



Yeah, that's a possibility, but I can't see Washington letting Green walk, and I am not enthralled with what else is out there for UFA dmen. If it's a 1st.. yes.. a high 2nd and a good prospect, I consider it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 9:25 AM ET
Pens and Caps had a fight filled game last night. Prettty entertaining stuff. I just wish the Flyers would stop making them play like that.
- jak521


Stupid Flyers made the Pens trade for Max Lapierre because they're so tough
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 29 @ 9:27 AM ET
Streit is exactly the type of vet D man that Detroit would seek.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 9:28 AM ET
Yeah, that's a possibility, but I can't see Washington letting Green walk, and I am not enthralled with what else is out there for UFA dmen. If it's a 1st.. yes.. a high 2nd and a good prospect, I consider it.
- Hextall271


I'd be amazed if they re-signed Green. Their defense is already expensive and Green is playing fewer minutes than just about any of them. He's been used mostly on the PP, but guys like Niskanen and Carlson can take his minutes there.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:28 AM ET
Byfuglien scored a goal in that game and he did dole out a bunch of big hits. You know what else he did? He directly contributed to three Flyers goals by being out of position or (on the final one) turning over the puck in a dangerous area. He ran around all game and did more damage to his own team that night that he did to the Flyers.

Playing under control, Byfuglien is an asset. Playing with zero discipline, he is a liability even when he does do some good things.

- bmeltzer

Is that not the risk you have when you put a guy like that out there? He is an all-star caliber, border line elite offensive defenseman. What makes him even more captivating is that he is pretty much the only offensive d-man who is also a huge physical presence.

Gotta live with the bumps if you want that package.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:31 AM ET
Stupid Flyers made the Pens trade for Max Lapierre because they're so tough
- Jsaquella

that's what the Pens need to do to win: fight more, focus on throwing hits, and add dirty players. Several posters on their thread argued their biggest team weakness was that other teams crosschecked their players who had just scored goals, where Penguins were not getting these valuable crosschecks. The data confirms it:

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:31 AM ET
Stupid Flyers made the Pens trade for Max Lapierre because they're so tough
- Jsaquella

Kinda like the time my buddy gotta whole bunch of extenze because someone said I was 11".

Im not 11".
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 29 @ 9:31 AM ET
Stupid Flyers made the Pens trade for Max Lapierre because they're so tough
- Jsaquella



Nice to see those saintly Penguins at it again. Downie with an abuse of officials 10 mins haha
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 9:31 AM ET
Kinda like the time my buddy gotta whole bunch of extenze because someone said I was 11".

Im not 11".

- jak521

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 29 @ 9:33 AM ET
I'd be amazed if they re-signed Green. Their defense is already expensive and Green is playing fewer minutes than just about any of them. He's been used mostly on the PP, but guys like Niskanen and Carlson can take his minutes there.
- Jsaquella


Ok. Here's a question then. Would we want him at what he would command?
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 29 @ 9:34 AM ET
that's what the Pens need to do to win: fight more, focus on throwing hits, and add dirty players. Several posters on their thread argued their biggest team weakness was that other teams crosschecked their players who had just scored goals, where Penguins were not getting these valuable crosschecks. The data confirms it:


- BulliesPhan87

3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 29 @ 9:35 AM ET
Byfuglien scored a goal in that game and he did dole out a bunch of big hits. You know what else he did? He directly contributed to three Flyers goals by being out of position or (on the final one) turning over the puck in a dangerous area. He ran around all game and did more damage to his own team that night that he did to the Flyers.

Playing under control, Byfuglien is an asset. Playing with zero discipline, he is a liability even when he does do some good things.

- bmeltzer


Under control, playing with a partner who is more defensively responsible.. Buff would be a great guy to have on this team. You hope a player matures as his career moves along.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
Nice to see those saintly Penguins at it again. Downie with an abuse of officials 10 mins haha
- Hextall271


It's funny. You read a large majority of the Pittsburgh writers and a lot of Pens fans about the horrible, dirty, nasty Flyers and one team is dumping enforcers and had their less skilled, agitator scratched until injuries forced him back in the lineup and the other added Max Lapierre to Steve Downie, Bobby Farnham and Zach Sill.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
The data confirms it:


- BulliesPhan87

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
Nice to see those saintly Penguins at it again. Downie with an abuse of officials 10 mins haha
- Hextall271

In his defense... he couldnt hear the official telling him to ease up.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
Kinda like the time my buddy gotta whole bunch of extenze because someone said I was 11".

Im not 11".

- jak521

11" seems like it would just be inconvenient
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
that's what the Pens need to do to win: fight more, focus on throwing hits, and add dirty players. Several posters on their thread argued their biggest team weakness was that other teams crosschecked their players who had just scored goals, where Penguins were not getting these valuable crosschecks. The data confirms it:


- BulliesPhan87



I love the production tag
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 9:38 AM ET
Ok. Here's a question then. Would we want him at what he would command?
- Hextall271


It'd have to be a short term deal for me. Just using his name as an example. I'm not advocating Green. I'd rather have Sekera or Martin.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:38 AM ET
11" seems like it would just be inconvenient
- BulliesPhan87

Flaccid. You cant even wear running shorts.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 9:39 AM ET
Is that not the risk you have when you put a guy like that out there? He is an all-star caliber, border line elite offensive defenseman. What makes him even more captivating is that he is pretty much the only offensive d-man who is also a huge physical presence.

Gotta live with the bumps if you want that package.

- jak521


Aside from (off the top of my head) Weber, Chara, Kronwall, E. Johnson, Hedman, and McDonagh, yes.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 29 @ 9:39 AM ET
Thanks Bill. I agree with what you said about Big Buff. Of late he has been playing well, but it's just a matter of time before he reverts back to his old habits. He shows flashes of being a decent player, but then he reminds you with his play that he is over rated. If he did come to the Flyers, I bet it wouldn't be long before he is the scape goat for all the goals against; just like turn over king #5. After #5, McD is the next in line for the D woes.
However, you can't blame the D entirely. If the forwards sit, and watch, and hang around the blue line all day, then your D men will slowly fade over the course of the game. It's similar to having your D out on the field too long in football.
Speaking of McD, anyone for some Chinese burgers...lol? Damn, all this talk about burgers got Buff hungry again...ouch.
Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 29 @ 9:39 AM ET
Does anyone want two tix to tonight's game for a nominal fee? Section 110

I can't go tonight as something came up.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
In his defense... he couldnt hear the official telling him to ease up.
- jak521


Really???
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:42 AM ET
Really???
- jmatchett383

You didn't let him finish!

He couldn't hear the officials... over the sound of his own dumb voice
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:44 AM ET
Really???
- jmatchett383



It was a deaf joke. Pretty classless. Just trying to keep up with certain philly stereotypes.
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