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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:06 AM ET
during that 5 year span, how much has playing forward inflated those numbers?
- nails

While that may be true, its also an amazing thing that he can pretty much play ANYWHERE and be an impact player. Hell, with his size he'd probably be a freak goalie.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:07 AM ET
This is very true.

Hedman's the only guy who's natural set of tools comes close, IMO.

- Tomahawk

I said earlier this season he is the #1 dman i would want. I think he will only get better and meaner. That is the package.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 29 @ 10:07 AM ET
This is probably crazy, but...given his season, if he can fill out over the summer, is it possible that Sanheim makes the club full-time before those 3?
- jmatchett383


I wouldn't be surprised. He looked really good last year. His ability to read plays and jump in at appropriate times is elite for his age.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:07 AM ET
I can deal with that in 15-16 if Ghost, Morin and Hagg are all developing well in the AHL and pushing hard to get on the Flyers.
- Feanor


Same.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:08 AM ET
I said earlier this season he is the #1 dman i would want. I think he will only get better and meaner. That is the package.
- jak521


Yup... the skating is what's freakish about him and Buff. Dudes that big shouldn't be able to move like that.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:08 AM ET
2016-2017 season...

Will Morin, Sanheim, and Ghost all be part of the Flyers defense core?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:09 AM ET
I said earlier this season he is the #1 dman i would want. I think he will only get better and meaner. That is the package.
- jak521


At this moment in time, I agree, but if it really came down to it, I'd probably still take Weber. When you talk "mean" he's got it over Hedman. He can go from zero to insane at the flip of a switch.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:10 AM ET
2016-2017 season...

Will Morin, Sanheim, and Ghost all be part of the Flyers defense core?

- PLindbergh31


I think Sanheim's the one that the surest bet to crack the squad, but not sure 16/17 is his year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
I'm saying that, in the sentence he wrote, he said he was the only player who was offensive and a huge physical presence. And I disagreed. See below

"Zdeno Chara is the only player in the NHL who is 6'9. In fact, he's one of the only players who's big and has won a Norris Trophy."

See how the meaning can change from one sentence to the next.

- jmatchett383


If you want to ignore one sentence to lock on the other, sure the meaning will change. If you read the entire post, it's pretty clear what he meant.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:11 AM ET


ugh
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
If you want to ignore one sentence to lock on the other, sure the meaning will change. If you read the entire post, it's pretty clear what he meant.
- Jsaquella


Yes...and he said it was implied, which was not how I took it. He has since clarified, and I agreed.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
This is probably crazy, but...given his season, if he can fill out over the summer, is it possible that Sanheim makes the club full-time before those 3?
- jmatchett383


It's not out of the question, but I think they send him back to Junior. Maybe after a 9 game stint on the team at the start of the season.

I think one of Ghost or Morin will be full time NHLers by the end of next season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
during that 5 year span, how much has playing forward inflated those numbers?
- nails


Not much, actually. He saw very limited usage as a wing over the years I selected. He was almost exclusively a D-man for the majority of the time period.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
While that may be true, its also an amazing thing that he can pretty much play ANYWHERE and be an impact player. Hell, with his size he'd probably be a freak goalie.
- jak521


Agree.
If he plays with the right partner, I think he is effective.

But, tis reminds me of a discussion over the summer about the flyers never getting the guy that either does it on his own or makes someone else better. they always seems to get the D man that needs the right partner to make themselves good. (I believe it was a AMac argument)
So, if Buff needs the right partner (i would say more stay at home, level headed, decent skater), doesn't that make him a better version of the same problem?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
It's not out of the question, but I think they send him back to Junior. Maybe after a 9 game stint on the team at the start of the season.
- Feanor


Well, if he did make the team out of camp, the 9 (or less) game tryout is obviously what he'd be viewed in. But, kind of like Couturier, if he just looks too good to pass up...I guess the team's record over those 9 games would come into question as well. If they start 1-7-1 or something, they probably send him down.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
2016-2017 season...

Will Morin, Sanheim, and Ghost all be part of the Flyers defense core?

- PLindbergh31


Morin and Ghost, hopefully.

Sanheim should be enrolled at Terry Murray Academy.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
Not much, actually. He saw very limited usage as a wing over the years I selected. He was almost exclusively a D-man for the majority of the time period.
- Jsaquella


He puts up more points as a dman, believe it or not.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
Scott Laughton was skating this morning, no timetable on his return, per Dave Isaac
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
ugh
- -davies-

^this^
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
Not much, actually. He saw very limited usage as a wing over the years I selected. He was almost exclusively a D-man for the majority of the time period.
- Jsaquella


Didn't the coach come out and the end of last season and say that he was moving him to forward for this year?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
Didn't the coach come out and the end of last season and say that he was moving him to forward for this year?
- jmatchett383


Don't recall, but it obviously didn't last
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
He puts up more points as a dman, believe it or not.
- Tomahawk


Do you think that has to do with ice time/linemates/PP? Just curious.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:18 AM ET
Don't recall, but it obviously didn't last
- Jsaquella


Yep. I was talking with some Jets fans last year about their D, and the coach (can't remember his name) basically said that he was moving him up front this season. Oh well.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
Yep. I was talking with some Jets fans last year about their D, and the coach (can't remember his name) basically said that he was moving him up front this season. Oh well.
- jmatchett383


He's been a lot more effective and productive as a defenseman.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
Didn't the coach come out and the end of last season and say that he was moving him to forward for this year?
- jmatchett383

That is correct.
Moved him back to D when they had 4 of their top 6 injured.
he doubled his point totals during his time on D
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