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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:03 PM ET
Kassian and Lack for MDC and some warm body

I think it would make sense for both teams. Canucks need a top 6 prospect and the isles need a big forward and goalie depth.

I doubt Benning does that deal though.... he wants more help now

- Mungo

I'd throw Higgins in as well. MDC
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:06 PM ET
I'd throw Higgins in as well. MDC
- Bieksa#3

They would still say (frank) no
If we are throwing in anything it would have to be a similar but crappier prospect ie. Shinky
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:07 PM ET
Lack Kassian Clendening for ROR?
- VANTEL

I wonder what the cost would be to get Marcus Johannson out of Wash?
Kassian, Lack and Gaunce?

Or Hansen, and Kassian for Saad.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:07 PM ET
I think you are right in that this is the only type of deal we could get for a package like that, and it's definitely a player who could be available
Edit: Personally though, I think I would prefer draft picks for any of our TDL moves

- bezz44

I would love draft picks but Benning has to try to find a second line forward to make the playoffs. I still think he believes he can do it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:08 PM ET
I wonder what the cost would be to get Marcus Johannson out of Wash?
Kassian, Lack and Gaunce?

Or Hansen, and Kassian for Saad.

- Bieksa#3

I don't see Saad being moved , why would they?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:08 PM ET
They would still say (frank) no
If we are throwing in anything it would have to be a similar but crappier prospect ie. Shinky

- bezz44

To me the islanders fancy themselves a contender. They got a ton of prospects. Now is their priority. Hell, give them Hansen
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:10 PM ET
I don't see Saad being moved , why would they?
- VANTEL

5 mill in cap for 8 players. Considering Saad gets 4-4.5 that's rough. Even moving sharp doesn't make it work
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:10 PM ET
I wonder what the cost would be to get Marcus Johannson out of Wash?
Kassian, Lack and Gaunce?

Or Hansen, and Kassian for Saad.

- Bieksa#3

First package might be enough if Washington needs a backup but the second package you are way off. Add our first this year and maybe they don't hang up
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:11 PM ET
To me the islanders fancy themselves a contender. They got a ton of prospects. Now is their priority. Hell, give them Hansen
- Bieksa#3

Yea, but if they want to go all in then why would they use a piece like MDC to get a bunch of spare parts when they could go after a top 6 forward like ROR or go for Yandle
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:11 PM ET
To me the islanders fancy themselves a contender. They got a ton of prospects. Now is their priority. Hell, give them Hansen
- Bieksa#3

Yea, but if they want to go all in then why would they use a piece like MDC to get a bunch of spare parts when they could go after a top 6 forward like ROR or go for Yandle
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:12 PM ET
5 mill in cap for 8 players. Considering Saad gets 4-4.5 that's rough. Even moving sharp doesn't make it work
- Bieksa#3

Who would they rather keep Saad at 4.5 or Sharp at 5.9?
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:14 PM ET
I think we need to face the music that the pieces we are looking to trade (Kassian, Lack, Higgins, Hansen) are not enticing enough to secure any A grade trade targets. I think if Benning does anything it will be in the same vein of thinking we have seen. Useful roster player for decent prospect on the brink of the NHL + okay draft pick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:23 PM ET
I think we need to face the music that the pieces we are looking to trade (Kassian, Lack, Higgins, Hansen) are not enticing enough to secure any A grade trade targets. I think if Benning does anything it will be in the same vein of thinking we have seen. Useful roster player for decent prospect on the brink of the NHL + okay draft pick
- bezz44

Any good young prospect would cost a lot. Does Benning have the balls? Yes! Will he ? Probably not.

I think he will continue building around Bo Tanev Vey Virtanen MCCann and Demko.

I think he will look for a 2 B level forward to help us compete for the next two years until some relief from the farm.

I see Jensen COrrado and Clendening as next year's call ups
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
Any good young prospect would cost a lot. Does Benning have the balls? Yes! Will he ? Probably not.

I think he will continue building around Bo Tanev Vey Virtanen MCCann and Demko.

I think he will look for a 2 B level forward to help us compete for the next two years until some relief from the farm.

I see Jensen COrrado and Clendening as next year's call ups

- VANTEL

I see this happening as well. Maybe ship out Bieksa in the off season to make room. Corey Pronman mentioned yesterday that he was impressed with Jensen in the Utica/Marlies game. I still think he won't be adding any top 6 help but will try to swap a vet for youth
Edit: I think we will see something like: Higgins, Bieksa, Weber out; Corrado, Jensen, Clendening in
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
I see this happening as well. Maybe ship out Bieksa in the off season to make room. Corey Pronman mentioned yesterday that he was impressed with Jensen in the Utica/Marlies game. I still think he won't be adding any top 6 help but will try to swap a vet for youth
Edit: I think we will see something like: Higgins, Bieksa, Weber out; Corrado, Jensen, Clendening in

- bezz44

I see Clendening Jensen COrrado in .

Weber moved Bieksa Higgins and Burrows gone.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
I see Clendening Jensen COrrado in .

Weber moved Bieksa Higgins and Burrows gone.

- VANTEL

If both of these guys end up out of town I think Benning will go after a top 6 UFA
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:31 PM ET
I see this happening as well. Maybe ship out Bieksa in the off season to make room. Corey Pronman mentioned yesterday that he was impressed with Jensen in the Utica/Marlies game. I still think he won't be adding any top 6 help but will try to swap a vet for youth
Edit: I think we will see something like: Higgins, Bieksa, Weber out; Corrado, Jensen, Clendening in

- bezz44

Higgins is a really good player. He has been snake bitten as f@ck lately but the rest his game has been great imo. To bad I like the guy but he has struggled to get points. I think if we are out of a playoff spot a team like NYI could use him.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:34 PM ET
Higgins is a really good player. He has been snake bitten as f@ck lately but the rest his game has been great imo. To bad I like the guy but he has struggled to get points. I think if we are out of a playoff spot a team like NYI could use him.
- thundachunk

I'm not suggesting he's not a useful player or a great player because he is. One of my favourite Canucks. But teams just aren't willing to part with their best pieces for depth. He is a great 3rd line player but if the shoe was on the other foot I sure as poop would not be okay with trading someone like Virtanen for a similar guy to Higgins like Hagelin
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:35 PM ET
If both of these guys end up out of town I think Benning will go after a top 6 UFA
- bezz44

Very slim Pickens in UFA under 30 forwards next year. Tlusty Hagelin Aand Zucerello are the big ticket names.

Jagr and Marty St.L are over 30 big names.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:38 PM ET
Higgins is a really good player. He has been snake bitten as f@ck lately but the rest his game has been great imo. To bad I like the guy but he has struggled to get points. I think if we are out of a playoff spot a team like NYI could use him.
- thundachunk

He is an aging 3 Rd liner that has 6 goals. He is probably worth a 4 th rounder at this point. This team struggles to score goals. I am sure a younger faster Jensen could score 6 goals.

Can't keep hanging on to memories
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:38 PM ET
Who would they rather keep Saad at 4.5 or Sharp at 5.9?
- VANTEL

They may not have a choice. They may move both. If they trade Sharp they have 11 mill for 9 players. Saad gets 4.5. So 6.5 for 8 players. Oduya is a ufa as well. They may be forced to go all in
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:40 PM ET
Very slim Pickens in UFA under 30 forwards next year. Tlusty Hagelin Aand Zucerello are the big ticket names.

Jagr and Marty St.L are over 30 big names.

- VANTEL

I take Hagelin. That guy might be the fastest guy in the league and we need speed bad
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:40 PM ET
Very slim Pickens in UFA under 30 forwards next year. Tlusty Hagelin Aand Zucerello are the big ticket names.

Jagr and Marty St.L are over 30 big names.

- VANTEL

Vermette IMO would sign here and would fit the bill
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:41 PM ET
They may not have a choice. They may move both. If they trade Sharp they have 11 mill for 9 players. Saad gets 4.5. So 6.5 for 8 players. Oduya is a ufa as well. They may be forced to go all in
- Bieksa#3

They'll make room for Saad if they have to
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:42 PM ET
They may not have a choice. They may move both. If they trade Sharp they have 11 mill for 9 players. Saad gets 4.5. So 6.5 for 8 players. Oduya is a ufa as well. They may be forced to go all in
- Bieksa#3

TT will be playing there next year . Add Kassian and Higgins approx 2 mil each avg. 3 players at 5 mil . They will probably move Seabrook to this off season
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