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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
Vermette IMO would sign here and would fit the bill
- bezz44

32 year old. Maybe
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
32 year old. Maybe
- VANTEL

Not looking for a long term solution. Just a stop gap that you got for free and can trade in the future
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
Not looking for a long term solution. Just a stop gap that you got for free and can trade in the future
- bezz44



I don't think anyone can get him for two years. I think he will be looking for a 4 year contract and high money. There will be a bidding war and I don't want to be involved in it .


In free agency there are wave levels of the free agent.

First wave belongs to the stupid teams that throw stupid money and over rate the value of a average to decent player. That is where Vermette will fall in. He will be a Oiler Leaf Pen Or Pred.

After that the next waive is for the players left after the vultures have snagged their prize. This level is still expensive but serviceable like Vrbata Miller.

Next level is the smart shopper and you pick up a Derick Dorsett.

After that is the level of players that play in Europe or retire
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jan 31 @ 1:02 PM ET
I don't think anyone can get him for two years. I think he will be looking for a 4 year contract and high money. There will be a bidding war and I don't want to be involved in it .
- VANTEL




Don't want the club involved with any bidding wars.. but if the cap stays the same or drops a little, he may have to temper expectations...

Hoping there will be clubs like Chicago that have to choose which guy to let go and which guy to keep because of cap issues - trader Jim might be able to make a deal for a top 6 yet.

Drew Stafford was noticeable around the net, just wish he had a bit more finish, he is ufa next season with his buddy Miller here already. Damn his +/- is awful, hope it is just because of the team he is on.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 1:34 PM ET
I don't think anyone can get him for two years. I think he will be looking for a 4 year contract and high money. There will be a bidding war and I don't want to be involved in it .


In free agency there are wave levels of the free agent.

First wave belongs to the stupid teams that throw stupid money and over rate the value of a average to decent player. That is where Vermette will fall in. He will be a Oiler Leaf Pen Or Pred.

After that the next waive is for the players left after the vultures have snagged their prize. This level is still expensive but serviceable like Vrbata Miller.

Next level is the smart shopper and you pick up a Derick Dorsett.

After that is the level of players that play in Europe or retire

- VANTEL

I don't know that Vermette is that much of a UFA target I think it's entirely possible we could get him for a decent price but I agree no point throwing stupid money around. I still would put Miller in the stupid money category
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:35 PM ET


Don't want the club involved with any bidding wars.. but if the cap stays the same or drops a little, he may have to temper expectations...

Hoping there will be clubs like Chicago that have to choose which guy to let go and which guy to keep because of cap issues - trader Jim might be able to make a deal for a top 6 yet.

Drew Stafford was noticeable around the net, just wish he had a bit more finish, he is ufa next season with his buddy Miller here already. Damn his +/- is awful, hope it is just because of the team he is on.

- hillbillydeluxe

If the cap doesnt go up as expected the hawks are (frank)ed. Under 2 mill for 8 players. Ditto for the kings. Be awful nice to head into the summer with a ton of cap space.
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Jan 31 @ 1:35 PM ET
I had no idea you were black.
- Bieksa#3


I'm not
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 1:35 PM ET


Don't want the club involved with any bidding wars.. but if the cap stays the same or drops a little, he may have to temper expectations...

Hoping there will be clubs like Chicago that have to choose which guy to let go and which guy to keep because of cap issues - trader Jim might be able to make a deal for a top 6 yet.

Drew Stafford was noticeable around the net, just wish he had a bit more finish, he is ufa next season with his buddy Miller here already. Damn his +/- is awful, hope it is just because of the team he is on.

- hillbillydeluxe

Cap is supposed to be 72m with CAD drop taken into account I believe
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:36 PM ET
I don't know that Vermette is that much of a UFA target I think it's entirely possible we could get him for a decent price but I agree no point throwing stupid money around. I still would put Miller in the stupid money category
- bezz44

Miller signed a decent deal. Look around the league at the money starting goalies are getting
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:37 PM ET


Don't want the club involved with any bidding wars.. but if the cap stays the same or drops a little, he may have to temper expectations...

Hoping there will be clubs like Chicago that have to choose which guy to let go and which guy to keep because of cap issues - trader Jim might be able to make a deal for a top 6 yet.

Drew Stafford was noticeable around the net, just wish he had a bit more finish, he is ufa next season with his buddy Miller here already. Damn his +/- is awful, hope it is just because of the team he is on.

- hillbillydeluxe

I have no interest at all in Stafford unless its some insa e discount
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:38 PM ET


Don't want the club involved with any bidding wars.. but if the cap stays the same or drops a little, he may have to temper expectations...

Hoping there will be clubs like Chicago that have to choose which guy to let go and which guy to keep because of cap issues - trader Jim might be able to make a deal for a top 6 yet.

Drew Stafford was noticeable around the net, just wish he had a bit more finish, he is ufa next season with his buddy Miller here already. Damn his +/- is awful, hope it is just because of the team he is on.

- hillbillydeluxe

Soderberg should be a target.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:45 PM ET
Cap is supposed to be 72m with CAD drop taken into account I believe
- bezz44

The last report I heard is that it is locked in between 72 and 73, the cdn dollar will cause a small fluctuation but not very large apparently.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
I don't know that Vermette is that much of a UFA target I think it's entirely possible we could get him for a decent price but I agree no point throwing stupid money around. I still would put Miller in the stupid money category
- bezz44

https://twitter.com/jb_ho...status/561576456862441474
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:48 PM ET
The last report I heard is that it is locked in between 72 and 73, the cdn dollar will cause a small fluctuation but not very large apparently.
- belcherbd

I think Bettman came out about a month ago at a BOG meeting and said 73
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 1:48 PM ET
Miller signed a decent deal. Look around the league at the money starting goalies are getting
- Bieksa#3

He's making top 10 goalie money and he is far from a top 10 goaltender. The only goaltender who makes more than him that shouldn't is Ward, and there are many that are making less that should be making more
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:49 PM ET
If the cap doesnt go up as expected the hawks are (frank)ed. Under 2 mill for 8 players. Ditto for the kings. Be awful nice to head into the summer with a ton of cap space.
- Bieksa#3

So you are thinking COrrado Kassian for Saad?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 1:53 PM ET
Yeah I don't see it.


I do see something like Kassian Higgins for Sharp.

Gives Chi some cap relief . We get an experienced (old) vet who knows how to score and is usually good in the playoffs. It gives Bonino a sniper.

Sharp has two more years at 5.9 and is just as reliable as ROR.

I know he is old , no need to bark t me . I can see him being available

- VANTEL


Very possible...

Do you think ROR might be a bit more durable though? Sharp seems to be injured a bit more nowadays in/out of the CHI lineup...
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 1:53 PM ET
So you are thinking COrrado Kassian for Saad?
- VANTEL

bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 1:54 PM ET
Very possible...

Do you think ROR might be a bit more durable though? Sharp seems to be injured a bit more nowadays in/out of the CHI lineup...

- LordHumungous

ROR is going to be an expensive signing
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:54 PM ET
Very possible...

Do you think ROR might be a bit more durable though? Sharp seems to be injured a bit more nowadays in/out of the CHI lineup...

- LordHumungous


ROR would cost too much Same as E Kane. We got to let that go.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 31 @ 1:55 PM ET
ROR would cost too much Same as E Kane. We got to let that go.
- VANTEL

You can throw Saad in there too
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:55 PM ET

- bezz44

I don't see it I am asking KB3

I would even add Jensen to the mix if we were close.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:58 PM ET

- bezz44

A bit of a Tuesday vibe going on.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:58 PM ET
You can throw Saad in there too
- bezz44

You can't have too many shiny toys in a cap world.

Toews
Kane
Hossa
Keith
Seabrook
Shrp
Crawford
Hjaalmersson
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 2:01 PM ET
I don't see it I am asking KB3

I would even add Jensen to the mix if we were close.

- VANTEL

We aren't getting back a team's top prospect or young roster player for our spare parts. Even from contenders, like Bezz said, if those teams really wanted to go all-in like that they'd target a Yandle/ROR/Eberle/Etc
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