Don't you think that is too much? I would keep Simmonds.
Arizona is going to deal Yandle. Can't see them trading OEL. I heard interview with one of their owners and he said they are not going to " tear it all down" and OEL is a guy they want to build around
- 3flyerkids

Not at all. Simmonds is a PP force, but he's scoring at Mike Richards levels at ES.

The Coyotes GM said the only untouchable they have is Doan

Easier to find forwards in free agency than a 23 year old franchise defenseman.

Even if it's just a couple of stopgap guys for a season or two.
- Jsaquella

I know, I do see what your saying.
I really think Maloney just threw his name out there to see who offers, (if any), a kings ransom.
How about
Schenn
Sanheim
Morin
& a first instead?
For OEL

I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
- Jsaquella

If Az even considered it, you know they'd want our first this year.

I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
- Jsaquella

That's too much. No way would I give up both Schenn and Simmonds.

For one, none of the defense prospects they have project to be as good as OEL. Second, OEL is 23 years old and already an elite defenseman. It's a lot easier to find forward depth, especially for this team, than another OEL

And FWIW, I doubt that offer is enough to get OEL.
- Jsaquella

Not saying he isn't worth it, I just don't think they have enough to make the deal happen. If they had forward prospects for the top 2 lines I would say sure but they really have little depth

I know, I do see what your saying.
I really think Maloney just threw his name out there to see who offers, (if any), a kings ransom.
How about
Schenn
Sanheim
Morin
& a first instead?
For OEL
- puckhead17

Not trading both Morin and Sanheim.

I'm willing to pay a lot, but not to the point where it's a bad deal

Not saying he isn't worth it, I just don't think they have enough to make the deal happen. If they had forward prospects for the top 2 lines I would say sure but they really have little depth
- nastyflyergirl

There would probably be another move of Streit or Coburn for picks/ prospects if they landed OEL.

Not saying he isn't worth it, I just don't think they have enough to make the deal happen. If they had forward prospects for the top 2 lines I would say sure but they really have little depth
- nastyflyergirl

They do have depth, that's why I'd dip into free agency this summer for replacements and draft forwards

Not trading both Morin and Sanheim.

I'm willing to pay a lot, but not to the point where it's a bad deal
- Jsaquella

I knew both Morin, & Sanheim would be considered too much, but I think Simmonds is more than a depth forward, I consider him too valuable.

There would probably be another move of Streit or Coburn for picks/ prospects if they landed OEL.
- hereticpride

If they move both Streit and Simmonds, they might as well decline every penalty against next year.

Interesting, though.

Not at all. Simmonds is a PP force, but he's scoring at Mike Richards levels at ES.

The Coyotes GM said the only untouchable they have is Doan
- Jsaquella

It absolutely is too much. Is Simmonds ES point totals low because he's not a capable player at ES, or does who he plays with at ES have anything to do with it? I'd be willing to bet that if Simmonds played was a good playmaking center or LW, his ES point totals would climb significantly. So in my opinion, Simmonds current ES point totals shouldn't be factored in as reasoning to make that deal. It's too much.

They do have depth, that's why I'd dip into free agency this summer for replacements and draft forwards
- Jsaquella

I just hope they can get high picks for Coburn and possibly Streit ( maybe a first for each) That will allow for a UFA and also allow so many more options for Hextall on draft day

I know, I do see what your saying.
I really think Maloney just threw his name out there to see who offers, (if any), a kings ransom.
How about
Schenn
Sanheim
Morin
& a first instead?
For OEL
- puckhead17

Take out Sanheim and add maybe Laughton, or one of the other forward prospects, and maybe we'd have a deal.

The deal I would make is Schenn, Laughton, and either a future 1st round pick or one of Morin or Hagg.

It absolutely is too much. Is Simmonds ES point totals low because he's not a capable player at ES, or does who he plays with at ES have anything to do with it? I'd be willing to bet that if Simmonds played was a good playmaking center or LW, his ES point totals would climb significantly. So in my opinion, Simmonds current ES point totals shouldn't be factored in as reasoning to make that deal. It's too much.
- MJL

He's on a line with 2 recent call ups, only played 11 minutes the last game.
I hope Berube changes that.

Take out Sanheim and add maybe Laughton, or one of the other forward prospects, and maybe we'd have a deal.
- MJL

My deal is equivalent to 4 first rounders?
I thought it was steep with both Morin, & Sanheim, but I can't deplete my top 2 lines.

He's on a line with 2 recent call ups, only played 11 minutes the last game.
I hope Berube changes that.
- puckhead17

Simmonds is a dam good player, I'm not going to add him to that trade because his ES point totals are down because of the situations he has played in and with whom. That just doesn't make sense. I understand wanting to acquire that top defenseman, but I'm not going to jump off a bridge to do it.

He's on a line with 2 recent call ups, only played 11 minutes the last game.
I hope Berube changes that.
- puckhead17

Simmonds ES points are over 3 seasons. 98 ES points in 259 games as a Flyer. Mike Richards, the one in decline has 82 ES points in 251 games as a King

I'm not good at tanking. I still want them to win
- Jsaquella

I hear ya. I still root for them to win, but Im not losing any sleep when they lose

I just hope they can get high picks for Coburn and possibly Streit ( maybe a first for each) That will allow for a UFA and also allow so many more options for Hextall on draft day
- 3flyerkids

It will.

I also doubt OEL gets traded unless the Coyotes get a king's ransom. Chris Pronger cost the Flyers a 30 goal winger, a top prospect who had been a 1st rounder the year before and two additional 1st rounders. He was 34. Ekman-Larsson is 11 years younger. Not getting him unless you pay a ton.

A package of Laughton, Morin and a 1st isn't likely to do it.

Simmonds ES points are over 3 seasons. 98 ES points in 259 games as a Flyer. Mike Richards, the one in decline has 82 ES points in 251 games as a King
- Jsaquella

I would like to see Simmonds have two stable line mates for an extended period of time. He seems to be the guy that is moved all around the lineup.
I just think he brings more to this team than points. He is a top power forward.
G Jake Simmonds and Mason are my untouchables

Simmonds ES points are over 3 seasons. 98 ES points in 259 games as a Flyer. Mike Richards, the one in decline has 82 ES points in 251 games as a King
- Jsaquella

Players develop over time and get better. Last season, Simmonds ranked 20th in ES point among all NHL Right Wings. If you look at that list, there's a lot of players who play with much better offensive players then Simmonds did last year at ES.

I hear ya. I still root for them to win, but Im not losing any sleep when they lose
- BiggE

Exactly. Want them to win, but not eating my own liver after a loss. I want them to go down swinging, if they indeed go down.

Not at all. Simmonds is a PP force, but he's scoring at Mike Richards levels at ES.

The Coyotes GM said the only untouchable they have is Doan
- Jsaquella

The Yotes would start any deal for OEL by asking for Voracek

It will.

I also doubt OEL gets traded unless the Coyotes get a king's ransom. Chris Pronger cost the Flyers a 30 goal winger, a top prospect who had been a 1st rounder the year before and two additional 1st rounders. He was 34. Ekman-Larsson is 11 years younger. Not getting him unless you pay a ton.

A package of Laughton, Morin and a 1st isn't likely to do it.
- Jsaquella

Maybe not, so you pass and move on. And revert back to the plan of patience that everyone on the past has wanted the Flyers to practice. How many times has it be discussed not to weaken the team, by creating holes in other areas?

The Yotes would start any deal for OEL by asking for Voracek
- BiggE

Most likely.