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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 31 @ 4:47 PM ET
Lol no. Mason>Smith, G and Jake > anyone on the Yotes roster.

Raffl G Jake
Read Schenn Simmonds
PEB Laughton RJ
VDV Vinny White

OEL Coburn
MDZ Schenn
Manning Grossman

Coots, this year's 1st, Morin for OEL

Streit for a 1st.

You're essentially trading Coots and Morin for OEL and moving down in the 1st round of the draft.

- hereticpride


Exactly -- it could be done and while they won't be able to depend on Couts to play every single hard minute that he does, they'd survive
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 4:49 PM ET
To me, you'd almost be getting two players back, because get the right partner for him and we might get Good Coburn back doing what Good Coburn does
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 31 @ 4:56 PM ET
To me, you'd almost be getting two players back, because get the right partner for him and we might get Good Coburn back doing what Good Coburn does
- AllInForFlyers

What's interesting about Coburn is, we know he's good. He's having an offseason but we know he's the type of player any team needs to win. When I look at the body of work Coburn, Grossmann and our D as a whole. They'd be fine if they had a number one defense. For example, take our entire team without Giroux, this is our defense as a whole without a number one defenseman. When I see someone blame one guy for a loss, the reality is what we don't have and what we're making players to to stay above water.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:00 PM ET
What's interesting about Coburn is, we know he's good. He's having an offseason but we know he's the type of player any team needs to win. When I look at the body of work Coburn, Grossmann and our D as a whole. They'd be fine if they had a number one defense. For example, take our entire team without Giroux, this is our defense as a whole without a number one defenseman. When I see someone blame one guy for a loss, the reality is what we don't have and what we're making players to to stay above water.
- SuperSchennBros


I agree that a number of Flyers losses are because guys just aren't slotted properly on defense

I mean, seriously. I like MDZ. I want him extended. But if he's playing 25 minutes a night, you've got to look at what you can do to rectify that
SuperSchennBros
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Jan 31 @ 5:02 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/31/15 vs. TOR, Phantoms, Prospect Updates, Mason
- bmeltzer


Just wanted to throw out there, I wouldn't start Mason tonight. We need for the stretch run and I think our back up is more then capable of giving us a win over the Leafs.
SuperSchennBros
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Jan 31 @ 5:08 PM ET
I agree that a number of Flyers losses are because guys just aren't slotted properly on defense

I mean, seriously. I like MDZ. I want him extended. But if he's playing 25 minutes a night, you've got to look at what you can do to rectify that

- AllInForFlyers


I saw an argument on here a little while ago when Coburn made a foolish play against O'Riley in OT against the Aves. Honestly, I would I could find and show you a montage of Del Zotto buffoon defensive plays in his own end. The Beau Barnett goal against the Pens comes to mind. Nick Bonino's goal was poorly played by Del Zotto against the Canucks. The baffling wrong side Martin Erat goal against the Yokes. This is fish out of water stuff.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:13 PM ET
I saw an argument on here a little while ago when Coburn made a foolish play against O'Riley in OT against the Aves. Honestly, I would I could find and show you a montage of Del Zotto buffoon defensive plays in his own end. The Beau Barnett goal against the Pens comes to mind. Nick Bonino's goal was poorly played by Del Zotto against the Canucks. The baffling wrong side Martin Erat goal against the Yokes. This is fish out of water stuff.
- SuperSchennBros


Ha! I like Del Zotto's game a little more than you, but yeah, I'd have him on the third pair at 18-ish minutes a night

The Flyers are banged up, true. But if Nick Schultz has played no worse all season than second-best of all the defensemen you have on your roster, you need to upgrade your roster

That's not disrespecting anyone's favorite player, nothing like that. That's just pointing out that this is professional sports, and Nick Schultz being no worse than second-best 50 games into a season absolutely, positively and without a doubt isn't nearly good enough
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:17 PM ET
Sanheim & Fazleev paired together at the point on the Calgary Hitmen power plays today
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
Sanheim & Fazleev paired together at the point on the Calgary Hitmen power plays today
- ob18

back to the future
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:30 PM ET
back to the future
- Giroux_Is_God


Bright future
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:32 PM ET
Bright future
- ob18


It is bright in Arizona, when they get traded for Ekman-Larsson
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:33 PM ET
It is bright in Arizona, when they get traded for Ekman-Larsson
- Jsaquella


Not happening
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:33 PM ET
Not happening
- ob18


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:34 PM ET
Bright future
- ob18

It really seems that way. It's exciting!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:35 PM ET

- Jsaquella


Just my belief
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:35 PM ET
It really seems that way. It's exciting!
- Giroux_Is_God


Not if you read this thread today they've been traded in many scenarios.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:43 PM ET
Not if you read this thread today they've been traded in many scenarios.
- ob18

The biggest reason for my willingness to include a prospect & young roster guy is Ekman-Larsson's young age. He's younger than Simmonds & Voracek and he's about 1 month older than Brayden Schenn.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:46 PM ET
The biggest reason for my willingness to include a prospect & young roster guy is Ekman-Larsson's young age. He's younger than Simmonds & Voracek and he's about 1 month older than Brayden Schenn.
- Jsaquella


I fully understand.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:47 PM ET
Sanheim & Fazleev paired together at the point on the Calgary Hitmen power plays today
- ob18


…on the second unit
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
I fully understand.
- ob18


Besides, they keep winning, that pick ain't gonna be worth poop. 8th pick right now, win tonight and they almost out of the top 10.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 5:51 PM ET
I'm interested in what Hexy apparently offered Florida at the draft for Ekblad. Simmonds was apparently the deal breaker, right. Gotta imagine the prices would be similar.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 5:54 PM ET
…on the second unit
- PhillySportsGuy


They've been used on both units, Calgary has struggled on the power play & have been switching things up during the game.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 6:04 PM ET
They've been used on both units, Calgary has struggled on the power play & have been switching things up during the game.
- ob18


The two I saw looked pretty damn bad
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 31 @ 6:08 PM ET
The Sanheim twins pick up assists on the 5th Calgary goal
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jan 31 @ 6:08 PM ET
Instead of these crazy trades for OEL, here is a crazy trade for Trouba:

To WPG: B. Schenn, Simmonds, Coburn
To Philly: Trouba, 2nd round pick

Followed by:

To LA: Amac
To Philly: Richards (salary difference retained by LA), 2nd round pick

Winnipeg significantly bolsters playoff depth to compete in the West, LA gets out of Richards contract and adds a defenseman
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