Wow, this is great stuff. I thought the discussions were bad in other threads......

If you had to stab yourself with a knife and twist it around for 5 minutes, or have Backes on your team...... which one?

That sounds riveting! Will this be available on NHL '15?
- HawkintheD

Absolutely! The Bi-polar edition.

Wow, this is great stuff. I thought the discussions were bad in other threads......

If you had to stab yourself with a knife and twist it around for 5 minutes, or have Backes on your team...... which one?
- carcus

The knife for 30 minutes.

Bob MacKenzie had an analogy to compare Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky. You clone both players twenty times give each team a comparable goalie and play a seven game series. Who would win and why? Team Orr would win in four straight because Orr could stop Gretzky, there is no chance Gretzky could stop Orr.

Same for this scenario. Bergeron can stop Carter, Carter can't stop Bergeron.
- paulr

You still don't think Seabrook's hit was bad either.

Dolts.
- carcus

It wasn't. It was a good, clean hit.

Wow, this is great stuff. I thought the discussions were bad in other threads......

If you had to stab yourself with a knife and twist it around for 5 minutes, or have Backes on your team...... which one?
- carcus

what false choice you offer....you can keep him and never win with him....

Yes, I know. The hate is to strong and people are beyond reason.
- carcus

Reason? Backes should have let up you said. He shouldn't have been hitting Alzner in the first place. His back was to him the whole time and you want to talk reason.

Wow, this is great stuff. I thought the discussions were bad in other threads......

If you had to stab yourself with a knife and twist it around for 5 minutes, or have Backes on your team...... which one?
- carcus

Id have to say seeee ya lefty....

what false choice you offer....you can keep him and never win with him....
- bogiedoc

Can't argue with stupid Bogie.

It wasn't. It was a good, clean hit.
- Elbows15

Seabrook's hit last year was absolutely clean. When it happened - it was right in front of the referee and no penalty was called. When Backes could not stand and had to be helped to the bench is when the penalty was issued. I f__king hate NHL officiating these days - they don't punish the act - they punish the result.

Over the past couple of years - I have said when players like Shaw get run, they should just lay there. Play stops - the wrestling matches start and then the referee penalizes the hit. I know its gutless - but if you can draw a double minor or a major out of it - I say take advantage of anything you can get.

Seabrook's hit last year was absolutely clean. When it happened - it was right in front of the referee and no penalty was called. When Backes could not stand and had to be helped to the bench is when the penalty was issued. I f__king hate NHL officiating these days - they don't punish the act - they punish the result.

Over the past couple of years - I have said when players like Shaw get run, they should just lay there. Play stops - the wrestling matches start and then the referee penalizes the hit. I know its gutless - but if you can draw a double minor or a major out of it - I say take advantage of anything you can get.
- dahawks8819

Shaw got a reputation based upon a hit that never even happened. Remember the flop Smith took in 2012? Shaw never even touched him and did everything he could to avoid the hit.

Seabrook has been in the league for 10 years and never came close to getting s fine. Now he is dirty? Please. No one can defend Carcillo cause he is an idiot.
Keith deserved what he got against Sedin. The suspension he got for the Carter incident was pure BS.

Reason? Backes should have let up you said. He shouldn't have been hitting Alzner in the first place. His back was to him the whole time and you want to talk reason.
- Elbows15

Backes is a glorified POS to everyone outside of St.Louis

Carcus wants to defend him as a physical player

Didnt know that cross checks to the kidneys, gloved punches to skill players, and slashes to the back of the knees behind the play constitutes "physical play"

He does take runs at guys with intent to injure.

Just because he isnt going at them like Matt Cooke trying to end careers doesnt mean he isnt trying to send guys to the locker room

Toews vs Backes is the best example of this as we know. Toews routinely gets the best of Backes so the Russian puppy savior resorts to the d baggery to try and get the guy whopping his ar/se out of the game

David Backes' career line vs Chicago
46 games played
8 Goals
22 pts
-6 (worst plus/minus line against any NHL team)

Jonathan Toews career line vs STL
38 games played
12 goals
33 points
+14 (3rd best plus/minus against any NHL team)

Yea, no wonder he goes full goon vs Chicago, he is privileged to smell Toews' post game jock

You guys are hilarious.

I can't believe that Blackhawk fans still think Seabrook's hit was clean.

Yes, reason. When Backes has a bad hit, like last night, I can say it was bad.

Happy Monday everyone!

Reason? Backes should have let up you said. He shouldn't have been hitting Alzner in the first place. His back was to him the whole time and you want to talk reason.
- Elbows15

Yes. It takes reason to talk about your own players when they do something over the line. Most Chicago fans still for the most part can't talk about Seabrook's hit as bad. Or you can just be a homer and pretend like his hit was perfectly fine......

Yes. It takes reason to talk about your own players when they do something over the line. Most Chicago fans still for the most part can't talk about Seabrook's hit as bad. Or you can just be a homer and pretend like his hit was perfectly fine......
- carcus

So it takes reason to say a guy should have let up when he shouldn't have hit the guy in the first place?

Seabrook's hit was as clean as they come. Its not his fault Backes sucks at hockey and can't handle a puck. Or has a glass head.

My only regret is it didn't turn Backes into a permanent drooler.

Seabrook's hit last year was absolutely clean. When it happened - it was right in front of the referee and no penalty was called. When Backes could not stand and had to be helped to the bench is when the penalty was issued. I f__king hate NHL officiating these days - they don't punish the act - they punish the result.

Over the past couple of years - I have said when players like Shaw get run, they should just lay there. Play stops - the wrestling matches start and then the referee penalizes the hit. I know its gutless - but if you can draw a double minor or a major out of it - I say take advantage of anything you can get.
- dahawks8819

When I played that was a great hit. But the principle point of contact was the head. It's a little tough to avoid that when Backes's head was straight down coming out of the corner. If that's not putting yourself in a bad situation I don't know what is and that's supposed to weigh into the situation as well, not just the fact that Backes didn't know any of his dogs names for at least an hour. But as even Carcus said earlier, "Backes hits from behind". And that's enough for me to say his hit was dirty. Alzner wasn't going toward the offensive zone backwards. A lot of guys here call Backe a backstabber. Video evidence suggests they are not just homers banging away on the keyboard.

So it takes reason to say a guy should have let up when he shouldn't have hit the guy in the first place?

Seabrook's hit was as clean as they come. Its not his fault Backes sucks at hockey and can't handle a puck. Or has a glass head.

My only regret is it didn't turn Backes into a permanent drooler.
- Elbows15

I thought he was before the hit? Doesn't drooling go hand in hand with mouth breathing?

When I played that was a great hit. But the principle point of contact was the head. It's a little tough to avoid that when Backes's head was straight down coming out of the corner. If that's not putting yourself in a bad situation I don't know what is and that's supposed to weigh into the situation as well, not just the fact that Backes didn't know any of his dogs names for at least an hour. But as even Carcus said earlier, "Backes hits from behind". And that's enough for me to say his hit was dirty. Alzner wasn't going toward the offensive zone backwards. A lot of guys here call Backe a backstabber. Video evidence suggests they are not just homers banging away on the keyboard.
- 6628

That hit by Backes is the very definition of trying to hurt someone. In the back. Uses his stick for extra leverage and drives his head into the class. Even raises his body upward to add even more force to the hit. Alzner was able to get back up so I guess the NHL decided it wasn't suspension worthy. What a (frank)ing joke.

I thought he was before the hit? Doesn't drooling go hand in hand with mouth breathing?
- paulr

Careful. carcus is going to get all weepy defending his guy.

Careful. carcus is going to get all weepy defending his guy.
- Elbows15

I wonder if Wakey Wakey is going to go face to face with Seabrook to avenge that hit?

Yes. It takes reason to talk about your own players when they do something over the line. Most Chicago fans still for the most part can't talk about Seabrook's hit as bad. Or you can just be a homer and pretend like his hit was perfectly fine......
- carcus

I have regarding Seabrook and many others here have too.

However, your comment above is the first time I recall you seeing or acknowledging Backes doing anything questionable. Usually it's the homer perspective of him just playing the game hard. Kudos on seeing what many non-Blues fans have seen his entire career.

So it takes reason to say a guy should have let up when he shouldn't have hit the guy in the first place?

Seabrook's hit was as clean as they come. Its not his fault Backes sucks at hockey and can't handle a puck. Or has a glass head.

My only regret is it didn't turn Backes into a permanent drooler.
- Elbows15

There was a purpose to Seab's hit on Backes - "I'm not going to put up with your bullpoop of chasing our skill guys around looking for a hit that will put them out of the series".

And he lowered the boom on that jerk, just like Gordie Howe would have done in the era when a player had to stand up like a man for his actions on the ice. Only difference is Gordie would have broken Backes neck before he was finished with him.

3 game suspension was a joke - not even a penalty in my opinion.

I wonder if Wakey Wakey is going to go face to face with Seabrook to avenge that hit?
- paulr

He had his chance and he took the coward's way out. Seabrook laughed at him.

There was a purpose to Seab's hit on Backes - "I'm not going to put up with your bullsh$t of chasing our skill guys around looking for a hit that will put them out of the series".

And he lowered the boom on that jerk, just like Gordie Howe would have done in the era when a player had to stand up like a man for his actions on the ice. Only difference is Gordie would have broken Backes neck before he was finished with him.

3 game suspension was a joke - not even a penalty in my opinion.
- RickJ

Gordie would have met up with him in a corner and only one guy would have skated out of it. No one would have known what happened. Gordie was not only tough but he was sneaky too. Or smart if you prefer. He tried that poop on Mikita and young Mikita would have beat him to a pulp. Older Mikita would have had him picking teeth off the ice and branded him with the Northland loge.