So Andrew MacDonald is NOT a top pairing defenseman!?
- Streit2ThePoint

Depends who you ask/trust.

I'd say any line featuring Zac Rinaldo or Jon Scott would be weak competition.
- jmatchett383

took the words right out of my bumb

Good old HockeyBuzz...where weaker used as a comparative term automatically equals weak!

Holy intentional mischaracterization of a point!

Depends who you ask/trust.
- bradleyc4

Large discrepancy between passable, average, good, top-pair, and elite when you talk about defensemen. I'd say he's a good, overpaid defenseman.

I'd say any line featuring Zac Rinaldo or Jon Scott would be weak competition.
- jmatchett383

I don't think QoC is as strong as an argument for/against a player as I used to, but to think it's a non-factor is ignorant.

Darrelle bevell is a POS. throwing his WR under the bus. Your the one that called the play the pats had scouted up so well they practiced against it multiple times

Good old HockeyBuzz...where weaker used as a comparative term automatically equals weak!

Holy intentional mischaracterization of a point!
- Jsaquella

If AMac is not the second coming of Chris Pronger, he's automatically the second coming of Jaroslav Modry.

BUF has lost 14 in a row in regulation... that's gotta be a record, right?

In the NHL, for defenseman, there is no such thing as weak competition. MacDonald is playing strong hockey because he is simply a pretty good defenseman. Simple as that.
- MJL

I usually agree with you, but this time even I have to at this statement.

If AMac is not the second coming of Chris Pronger, he's automatically the second coming of Jaroslav Modry.
- jmatchett383

At least Modry had an expiring contract

BUF has lost 14 in a row in regulation... that's gotta be a record, right?
- Tomahawk

So hoping they lose the lottery

At least Modry had an expiring contract
- five4fighting10

Okay, the second coming of Jeff Finger or NYR-era Wade Redden.

BUF has lost 14 in a row in regulation... that's gotta be a record, right?
- Tomahawk

They're simply not a good hockey team (despite the QoC).

BUF has lost 14 in a row in regulation... that's gotta be a record, right?
- Tomahawk

17 is the record

Shot attempts for and against dont really matter to me. What are the quality of shots? For instance Del Zotto may have allowed 21 shots that game while on ice but were they all just perimeter? Meanwhile Amac allowed fewer shots but did he allow the big scoring chances? Also Del Zotto is playing against tougher competition... Long story short.... Del Zotto is better than Amac. I dont think there are many people that will argue that

If AMac is not the second coming of Chris Pronger, he's automatically the second coming of Jaroslav Modry.
- jmatchett383

Hyperbole!

I get that. McDonald is what he is...he's being utilized properly in a secondary role, & overall he's been OK

Okay, the second coming of Jeff Finger or NYR-era Wade Redden.
- jmatchett383

I approve this message.

Ask Pete Carroll, he'll never forget it.
- Jsaquella

I hate that man with passion. Such a cocky wiener. So glad that final play blew up.

So hoping they lose the lottery
- jmatchett383

Yeah it will suck when they land Eichel. Busty McBusterson.

Hyperbole!

I get that. McDonald is what he is...he's being utilized properly in a secondary role, & overall he's been OK
- Jsaquella

Which is the problem in the first place.

Which is the problem in the first place.
- jak521

When it comes to money absolutely

Yeah it will suck when they land Eichel. Busty McBusterson.
- PLindbergh31

Phoenix will magically miraculously win the lotto, so yeah.

Hyperbole!

I get that. McDonald is what he is...he's being utilized properly in a secondary role, & overall he's been OK
- Jsaquella

Screen-capped buyout numbers:

When it comes to money absolutely
- Jsaquella

Evaluation of talent shouldnt come secondary to urgency/desperation when giving out contracts.

I don't think QoC is as strong as an argument for/against a player as I used to, but to think it's a non-factor is ignorant.
- bradleyc4

I think the standard by which QoC is judged is suspect. Regardless of that, there certainly is a difference in competition between playing against a top line versus a 3rd line. Even with that difference, there is no easy competition in the NHL. As a defenseman, if you don't play your position well, no matter who the opposition your up against is, you can look bad.