EJ won 2 and lost 2. Orton won 7 and lost 5, including one to the Raiders to keep the playoff push going.

Orton was awful. So was EJ. There was no difference
- sbroads24

Orton won 7, that' s the difference.

Orton won 7, that' s the difference.
- SABRES 89

I don't care, he sucked and we missed the playoffs. Get over it. He's a retired bum

I don't care, he sucked and we missed the playoffs. Get over it. He's a retired bum
- sbroads24

You should stop thinking EJ is going to amount to anything more then a clip board holder and if the Bills make him the starter, they deserve to loose and had no business hiring Ryan to change this team.


A retired bum that won 7 games that you savior EJ will never do.

Great Hodgson is back in the lineup and he will help continue the tank.
- SABRES 89

Im sure he learned his lesson.
The lesson being that he sucks.

Im sure he learned his lesson.
The lesson being that he sucks.
- seedy

I doubt it, another bad contract that we either have to eat or take a 7th round pick to get rid of him.

You should stop thinking EJ is going to amount to anything more then a clip board holder and if the Bills make him the starter, they deserve to lose and had no business hiring Ryan to change this team.


A retired bum that won 7 games that you savior EJ will never do.
- SABRES 89

Stop, no one said he was a savior. You are weird about EJ.

We didn't make the playoffs because of one specific reason, both QB 's were garbage.

Do I need to point out the KC game or the Oakland game as to why Orton was awful? Or even the Dolphins? Our defense kept us in every game but the home game against NE.

Habs, Blues and Stars.................... we should be 0-17 after that.

Stop, no one said he was a savior. You are weird about EJ.

We didn't make the playoffs because of one specific reason, both QB 's were garbage.

Do I need to point out the KC game or the Oakland game as to why Orton was awful? Or even the Dolphins? Our defense kept us in every game but the home game against NE.
- sbroads24

You defend EJ like you defend Myers.

He had like 12 straight picks without a TD in between or something like that before they benched him. If that were EJ people would be begging to bench him
- sbroads24

Hoyer struggled in 4 games before Flash-in-the-Pan-ziel was handed the job.

EJ was benched because he couldn't make a (frank)ing routine throw. Million dollar skills, ten cent head. Just like Losman.

You defend EJ like you defend Myers.
- SABRES 89

Read more.

"Both QB 's were garbage"

Hoyer struggled in 4 games before Flash-in-the-Pan-ziel was handed the job.

EJ was benched because he couldn't make a (frank)ing routine throw. Million dollar skills, ten cent head. Just like Losman.
- grand-magus

Didn't the Browns say they wanted to resign Hoyer ? Johnny dumbass must be pissed.

I doubt it, another bad contract that we either have to eat or take a 7th round pick to get rid of him.
- SABRES 89

I read somewhere that the canucks may be looking to move Kassian. Looks like we just traded turds.
In all honesty, i think Hodgson could be oK if he played with the right linemates...but what player wouldn't?

Read more.

"Both QB 's were garbage"
- sbroads24

I do read, you should.................. Orton won 7 games regardless if we missed the playoffs. Orton gave this team a better chance to win and won 7, it wasn't pretty but he did.

I read somewhere that the canucks may be looking to move Kassian. Looks like we just traded turds.
In all honesty, i think Hodgson could be oK if he played with the right linemates...but what player wouldn't?
- seedy

Kassian hasn't looked bad when I watched the Nuks a few times, we lost in that deal IMO.

Kassian hasn't looked bad when I watched the Nuks a few times, we lost in that deal IMO.
- SABRES 89

He definitely owned us a couple of games ago.....

I do read, you should.................. Orton won 7 games regardless if we missed the playoffs. Orton gave this team a better chance to win and won 7, it wasn't pretty but he did.
- SABRES 89

I don't care, he sucked. End of story.

He beat the Jets 2x, the Packers without scoring a TD, New England against their 3rd stringers and beat Minny and Detroit by scoring under 20 points. Our D won more games than Orton or EJ

He definitely owned us a couple of games ago.....
- seedy

The game where had 4 assists ?

I don't care, he sucked. End of story.

He beat the Jets 2x, the Packers without scoring a TD, New England against their 3rd stringers and beat Minny and Detroit by scoring under 20 points. Our D won more games than Orton or EJ
- sbroads24

you're getting pissed for no reason, you can say what you want and keep coming up with all these details all you want. Orton won 7 games and gave us the best chance to win and EJ got benched because he stinks.

The game where had 4 assists ?
- SABRES 89

Bingo!

Didn't the Browns say they wanted to resign Hoyer ? Johnny dumbass must be pissed.
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Did they? I know they signed a QB coach, or QB guru or something like that, that has worked with Johnny Dumbass before.

I doubt it, another bad contract that we either have to eat or take a 7th round pick to get rid of him.
- SABRES 89

U don't think Hodgson's stats will improve next year & we can actually get some value for him in a trade?
Assuming the Girgensons line stays in tact,
Hodgson will be playing wing with either Reinhart or McDavid/Eichel
Seems to me like his stats would def improve

I don't care, he sucked. End of story.

He beat the Jets 2x, the Packers without scoring a TD, New England against their 3rd stringers and beat Minny and Detroit by scoring under 20 points. Our D won more games than Orton or EJ
- sbroads24

They don't ask how. Just how many.

U don't think Hodgson's stats will improve next year & we can actually get some value for him in a trade?
Assuming the Girgensons line stays in tact,
Hodgson will be playing wing with either Reinhart or McDavid/Eichel
Seems to me like his stats would def improve
- jdfitz77

If they are smart they will keep Hodgson as far away from either McDavid, Eichel or Reinhart as possible. Hodgson is done, he needs to go.

you're getting pissed for no reason, you can say what you want and keep coming up with all these details all you want. Orton won 7 games and gave us the best chance to win and EJ got benched because he stinks.
- SABRES 89

The best chance to finish 9-7. Hooray what a moral victory for us. He fell short like most bad QB 's do.

They don't ask how. Just how many.
- grand-magus

***Not enough****