I think u might be correct there
- jdfitz77

I mIssued the number on the gangly kid in white who just made the nice play to break up the Habs' breakaway. Who was it did anyone see?

I'd like to see what that's about, because I'm lost. If he's not on the Buffalo roster, how would he have to clear waivers? Can he not just stay in Rochester and sign a new contract? Also, there's a "Free" period that ends 12 days before the regular season, so he could always be assigned before that. (http://www.mcsorleys-stic...l-waiver-rules-explained/ The “Playing Season Waiver Period” (which I will call “waiver period”) begins 12 days before the start of the regular season and ends the day after a team’s season ends. )
- stashu

There are a lot of things that play into it. How many pro games he has under his belt by a certain time, the age that he started playing them, etc.

But Grigorenko would need to clear waivers in order to go to the AHL.

I really miss capgeek right now....

I'd like to see what that's about, because I'm lost. If he's not on the Buffalo roster, how would he have to clear waivers? Can he not just stay in Rochester and sign a new contract? Also, there's a "Free" period that ends 12 days before the regular season, so he could always be assigned before that. (http://www.mcsorleys-stic...l-waiver-rules-explained/ The “Playing Season Waiver Period” (which I will call “waiver period”) begins 12 days before the start of the regular season and ends the day after a team’s season ends. )
- stashu

Anyone that signs an "NHL contract" technically starts the season on the Sabres, then are sent down to either the AHL or back to juniors or college.

I'd like to see what that's about, because I'm lost. If he's not on the Buffalo roster, how would he have to clear waivers? Can he not just stay in Rochester and sign a new contract? Also, there's a "Free" period that ends 12 days before the regular season, so he could always be assigned before that. (http://www.mcsorleys-stic...l-waiver-rules-explained/ The “Playing Season Waiver Period” (which I will call “waiver period”) begins 12 days before the start of the regular season and ends the day after a team’s season ends. )
- stashu

Page 72 1st paragraph of the CBA.

For purposes of Regular Waivers, the five (5) year exemption for an 18 year old skater and the four (4) year exemption for a 19 year old skater shall both be reduced to three (3) years commencing the first season that the 18 or 19 year old skater plays in eleven (11) NHL Games or more. The next two (2) seasons, regardless of whether the skater plays any NHL Games in either season, shall count as the second and third years toward satisfying the exemption.

He needs to clear waivers in order to play in the AHL next year.

I have two friends that got it done and are extremely happy. Do a lot of research on the doc youre thinking of using before using them.
- Cptmjl

I will, thanks!

I will, thanks!
- Lilroot9

I can let you know how things go for me on Thursday as well if you'd like. Just send me a PM if you want me to. Hopefully I'm not blind and I can answer it.

Page 72 1st paragraph of the CBA.

For purposes of Regular Waivers, the five (5) year exemption for an 18 year old
skater and the four (4) year exemption for a 19 year old skater shall both be reduced to three (3)
years commencing the first season that the 18 or 19 year old skater plays in eleven (11) NHL
Games or more. The next two (2) seasons, regardless of whether the skater plays any NHL
Games in either season, shall count as the second and third years toward satisfying the
exemption.
- dadeadhead

I get that, I'm not arguing in any way that if he's with Buffalo that he needs to clear waivers. I'm saying that he is NOT with Buffalo, and thus there are no waivers to clear.

And my last post also shows that should they want him to be in Rochester and as Fitz said that re-signing causes him to technically be with Buffalo, they can send him down for free prior to the regular season.

I get that, I'm not arguing in any way that if he's with Buffalo that he needs to clear waivers. I'm saying that he is NOT with Buffalo, and thus there are no waivers to clear.

And my last post also shows that should they want him to be in Rochester and as Fitz said that re-signing causes him to technically be with Buffalo, they can send him down for free prior to the regular season.
- stashu

No. After the final camp and roster cuts, all players going to Rochester on at least 2-way deals without waiver exemption must clear waivers. For example, Dalpe and Ellis had to clear waivers before the season started even though they went straight to Rochester.

Right but Gringo is either here or traded as I highly doubt he clears waivers.

McEichel and Reinhart will make it to tough to send to AHL/Jrs.


The rest of that roster has NHL contracts for next year. Someone needs to get shipped out to bring any vet in.

It's a numbers game based on contracts.
- dadeadhead

Totally missed this, why does he have to clear waivers?

Edit: I read on. lol

I get that, I'm not arguing in any way that if he's with Buffalo that he needs to clear waivers. I'm saying that he is NOT with Buffalo, and thus there are no waivers to clear.

And my last post also shows that should they want him to be in Rochester and as Fitz said that re-signing causes him to technically be with Buffalo, they can send him down for free prior to the regular season.
- stashu

If he signs a NHL contract he is automatically put with the Sabres at the start of the season so he would have to be sent down through waivers. There is no you're with Rochester to start the year if you're on a NHL contract unless it's your rookie deal.

I can let you know how things go for me on Thursday as well if you'd like. Just send me a PM if you want me to. Hopefully I'm not blind and I can answer it.
- HonkFortheGoose

Different topic....
2-1/2 more hours

I get that, I'm not arguing in any way that if he's with Buffalo that he needs to clear waivers. I'm saying that he is NOT with Buffalo, and thus there are no waivers to clear.

And my last post also shows that should they want him to be in Rochester and as Fitz said that re-signing causes him to technically be with Buffalo, they can send him down for free prior to the regular season.
- stashu

It makes no difference where he is at the end of this season. He still needs to clear waivers because his 3 year exemption will be up.

I get that, I'm not arguing in any way that if he's with Buffalo that he needs to clear waivers. I'm saying that he is NOT with Buffalo, and thus there are no waivers to clear.

And my last post also shows that should they want him to be in Rochester and as Fitz said that re-signing causes him to technically be with Buffalo, they can send him down for free prior to the regular season.
- stashu

He needs to clear waivers the same way that Ellis, Dalpe, Adam, and so on and so forth needed to.

He is no longer waiver exempt. They can't stash(no pun intended) him in Rochester next year without exposing him to the other 29 teams. Take what you know about his age, games played, and seasons played out the window. The moment he played in 11 games his rookie year, he lost the 5 year 160 gp rules we're normally used to.

He is now in the same category as all other waiver eligible players. He needs to clear to be assigned coming out of camp.

yotes up 3-1
- Herzeleid

Do you think we are seriously catching them? Like seriously? Lol

Totally missed this, why does he have to clear waivers?
- Lilroot9

Because he played 11 or more games as an 18 or 19 year old. He lost his 5 year 160 eligibility.

Meh, I'll concede, but I still wonder and someday may look into clarification on the "free waivers" period, as I think that would allow him to be sent down should the need for more time be deemed by the powers that be.

4 goal 3rd period from Habs incoming

Armia, Larsson and Catenacci aren't " Murray guys"
- SABRES 89

Hasn't Murray been quoted saying he was really impressed with Armia's game? Pretty much saying he stood out? I am pretty sure I've seen a link posted around here of an interview with him that said pretty much that...

Meh, I'll concede, but I still wonder and someday may look into clarification on the "free waivers" period, as I think that would allow him to be sent down should the need for more time be deemed by the powers that be.
- stashu

If this existed, teams would actually use it, and I've never seen anything like that happen or heard of it.

4 goal 3rd period from Habs incoming
- theblueandgold

Yep

If this existed, teams would actually use it, and I've never seen anything like that happen or heard of it.
- HonkFortheGoose

*shrug* The guy who wrote up that website put it under a rule heading ("ARTICLE 13 – WAIVERS AND LOANS OF PLAYERS 13.2 The “Playing Season Waiver Period”)

I don't have a copy of the CBA handy (or Adobe Reader on my PC apparently), so I can't speak to his validity on that part of what he wrote

*shrug* The guy who wrote up that website put it under a rule heading ("ARTICLE 13 – WAIVERS AND LOANS OF PLAYERS 13.2 The “Playing Season Waiver Period”)

I don't have a copy of the CBA handy (or Adobe Reader on my PC apparently), so I can't speak to his validity on that part of what he wrote
- stashu

Believe you can get a copy off nhlpa website, but some waiver rules got changed in the new 12-13 CBA (IE no more re-entry waivers)

Believe you can get a copy off nhlpa website
- theblueandgold

Oh, I know, I've had it before. Step 1 is getting a PDF reader.

Meh, I'll concede, but I still wonder and someday may look into clarification on the "free waivers" period, as I think that would allow him to be sent down should the need for more time be deemed by the powers that be.
- stashu

Where in the link you posted does it say "free waivers"?


I can't find it anywhere nor have I seen "free waivers" in the CBA. The only thing I can think of is "free waivers" may mean no waiver fees.

*shrug* The guy who wrote up that website put it under a rule heading ("ARTICLE 13 – WAIVERS AND LOANS OF PLAYERS 13.2 The “Playing Season Waiver Period”)

I don't have a copy of the CBA handy (or Adobe Reader on my PC apparently), so I can't speak to his validity on that part of what he wrote
- stashu

I'm reading it right now.

No mention of it.