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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 3 @ 10:58 PM ET
Yes, then if he fights Gallagher, he should have picked on someone his own size.
- sbroads24

No, I would have fallen off my friggin chair and likely choked to death.

Look, Ithink the kid is an ok D man overall, Ihave no real beef withhim' just wished he played with more aggression? He'll be a fine 3/4 D when Sabres get good...I agree that they better get a massive hall for him..,but good god, grow a friggin pair.
That's it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 10:59 PM ET
Ristolainen also plays with the same forwards. He must not he a good prospect
- sbroads24


U know that's an extremely weak argument. Big difference between a rookie & a 6yr player...
And did I ever say Myers was not good? Or that Weber was as good as either?

The point Irish makes,
That Myers is offensively underproducing is valid
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:00 PM ET
Where the heck was Ennis tonight? He seemed really absent.
I didnt see him with his stick on the puck for more than a couple seconds at any given time. Usually, hes good for a few dekes or something.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:00 PM ET
Oh GMAFB the Leafs fans think they are tanking now. They think they are getting our spot.
- Buffalo-Sabres


I have Bernier on my fantasy team, and he is singlehandedly dropping me in the standings because I never win any goalie stats due to him.

No more good goalies on waivers. And Schneider is my other goalie.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:01 PM ET
I have Bernier on my fantasy team, and he is singlehandedly dropping me in the standings because I never win any goalie stats due to him.

No more good goalies on waivers. And Schneider is my other goalie.

- theblueandgold

I remember when everyone in here wanted to trade for Bernier.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 3 @ 11:01 PM ET
Myers got knocked down twice today. Once from behind on a blindside elbow to the middle of his back (or head? missed the replay). And the 2nd when he took the hit to make the play up the boards because his forward failed to get the puck out the first time.

How do either of those plays get turned into a negative thing? Hockeybuzz logic.

- theblueandgold


You assume that my reference is to those plays.
More of an overall style thing for me really.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:01 PM ET
U know that's an extremely weak argument. Big difference between a rookie & a 6yr player...
And did I ever say Myers was not good? Or that Weber was as good as either?

The point Irish makes,
That Myers is offensively underproducing is valid

- jdfitz77



We literally have the worst offense in the history of the modern era. And no, it has nothing to do with a defenseman. Context.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:02 PM ET
Hope they plan on losing out. Sabres will be lucky to get 16 more points
- Pierceme69



I know, we should have gotten smoked tonight. A few good plays down low early then Enroth has a horseshoe up his ass all night. No way than can keep this up for even 1 more game.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 3 @ 11:02 PM ET
Myers is so bad, that he is being asked by our coach to play the most minutes. Hes so bad that our GM says it will cost the sun and the moon to get him out of BUF.

I mean, those are 2 of the biggest endorsements for anti-Myers people to believe hes worse than Wade Redden.

This team is bad. Myers isnt going to look like Lidstrom playing with 2/3 of 1 top 6 line and 3 bottom 6 lines....

- theblueandgold


He's so good that our GM hasn't taken him off the trade block in over a year. He is so good that he plays the most minutes on one of the worst teams in NHL history. He is so good that Detroit won't even give up a Grand Rapids center taken in the mid 20's of the 1st round who has 7 goals this year for him. He is so good that if 89 was right and his source is solid and there is no reason not to think it's not the Avs offered ROR for him but wanted Grigorenko and a pick too, even though ROR is soon to be an UFA.

Myers is so good that even though he had talent and a system to play with when Vanek, Pominville and Ruff were here he was still in a funk and now he needs new excuses so his fan club says he has no one to play with and that is why he isn't an all star yet. He is so good that his best year was 6 years ago and counting..
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:03 PM ET
I remember when everyone in here wanted to trade for Bernier.
- Pierceme69


It isnt Bernier's problem.

Toronto is a terrible defensive team. They are the poster child for poor corsi numbers.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:03 PM ET
I know, we should have gotten smoked tonight. A few good plays down low early then Enroth has a horseshoe up his ass all night. No way than can keep this up for even 1 more game.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Imagine where we'd be if Enroth hadn't stolen a half dozen games when we were badly outshot.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:03 PM ET
I know, we should have gotten smoked tonight. A few good plays down low early then Enroth has a horseshoe up his ass all night. No way than can keep this up for even 1 more game.
- Buffalo-Sabres


I was just waiting for that tie goal to go in...
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:05 PM ET
Its another level of Delusion for Toronto fans. Suddenly losing is cool. Even though they essentially have a team pinned against the cap and its a rotting cesspool of a roster.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:06 PM ET
I was just waiting for that tie goal to go in...
- seedy



I was sure of it. I could hear that goal horn in my head. Im glad we got the regulation win though. The OT/Loser point would have been the worst.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 3 @ 11:07 PM ET
Cabins Misfits 136.00
Bergerons team 71.00
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:07 PM ET
It isnt Bernier's problem.

Toronto is a terrible defensive team. They are the poster child for poor corsi numbers.

- theblueandgold

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:08 PM ET
We literally have the worst offense in the history of the modern era. And no, it has nothing to do with a defenseman. Context.
- theblueandgold


That's true...
But explain how weber & Myers have comparable offensive stats then
Myers obviously has WAY more talent
Weber plays with that same group of forwards, right?!
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:09 PM ET
He's so good that our GM hasn't taken him off the trade block in over a year. He is so good that he plays the most minutes on one of the worst teams in NHL history. He is so good that Detroit won't even give up a Grand Rapids center taken in the mid 20's of the 1st round who has 7 goals this year for him. He is so good that if 89 was right and his source is solid and there is no reason not to think it's not the Avs offered ROR for him but wanted Grigorenko and a pick too, even though ROR is soon to be an UFA.

Myers is so good that even though he had talent and a system to play with when Vanek, Pominville and Ruff were here he was still in a funk and now he needs new excuses so his fan club says he has no one to play with and that is why he isn't an all star yet. He is so good that his best year was 6 years ago and counting..

- GilPerreault11


Our GM isnt shopping him. Hes not on the trade block.
He plays the most minutes because hes the defenseman that can handle those minutes.
You think its because Detroit wont give that player up? Laugh. Murray doesnt want that player.
89's source is 2nd hand information. Been there seen that before.

As to that whole last paragraph.... you say he was in a funk when we had talent but also say his best season came 6 years ago when he played with all that talent. I assume its just coincidence that his play has gotten "worse" as the team has suddenly taken a nosedive as well?... or is it a coincidence that Myers poor play has forced our team to be worse? Because by the way the anti-Myers crowd spouts about him, it seems like the latter.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:12 PM ET
Our GM isnt shopping him. Hes not on the trade block.
He plays the most minutes because hes the defenseman that can handle those minutes.
You think its because Detroit wont give that player up? Laugh. Murray doesnt want that player.
89's source is 2nd hand information. Been there seen that before.

As to that whole last paragraph.... you say he was in a funk when we had talent but also say his best season came 6 years ago when he played with all that talent. I assume its just coincidence that his play has gotten "worse" as the team has suddenly taken a nosedive as well?... or is it a coincidence that Myers poor play has forced our team to be worse? Because by the way the anti-Myers crowd spouts about him, it seems like the latter.

- theblueandgold

EK says the Kings might be interested now.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:12 PM ET
He's so good that our GM hasn't taken him off the trade block in over a year. He is so good that he plays the most minutes on one of the worst teams in NHL history. He is so good that Detroit won't even give up a Grand Rapids center taken in the mid 20's of the 1st round who has 7 goals this year for him. He is so good that if 89 was right and his source is solid and there is no reason not to think it's not the Avs offered ROR for him but wanted Grigorenko and a pick too, even though ROR is soon to be an UFA.

Myers is so good that even though he had talent and a system to play with when Vanek, Pominville and Ruff were here he was still in a funk and now he needs new excuses so his fan club says he has no one to play with and that is why he isn't an all star yet. He is so good that his best year was 6 years ago and counting..

- GilPerreault11

Don't get me involved in this, I only posted what I found out. There are more teams that want Myers then we think the problem is, they think they have Murray over a barrel and they don't, not even close. The media says he's on the block but it's not like Murray is going to come out and say he is.

I would have passed on that offer as well, Murray is no dummy why give them Myers + Gringo and a pick ? ROR isn't Taylor Hall. Murray wants a young scoring winger. The media says Myers is on the block, that's it.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 3 @ 11:13 PM ET
That's true...
But explain how weber & Myers have comparable offensive stats then
Myers obviously has WAY more talent
Weber plays with that same group of forwards, right?!

- jdfitz77

Hard to have a huge disparity in numbers when they're super low in the first place.

As much as I like Girgensons, if you told me he would be the leading goal scorer on the team at the halfway point of the season, I would have said no way.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:14 PM ET
Our GM isnt shopping him. Hes not on the trade block.
He plays the most minutes because hes the defenseman that can handle those minutes.
You think its because Detroit wont give that player up? Laugh. Murray doesnt want that player.
89's source is 2nd hand information. Been there seen that before.

As to that whole last paragraph.... you say he was in a funk when we had talent but also say his best season came 6 years ago when he played with all that talent. I assume its just coincidence that his play has gotten "worse" as the team has suddenly taken a nosedive as well?... or is it a coincidence that Myers poor play has forced our team to be worse? Because by the way the anti-Myers crowd spouts about him, it seems like the latter.

- theblueandgold

Listen mouth, you don't S$$T about my source or what you are talking about, so don't run your mouth about me when you have not a clue as to what you are talking about.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 3 @ 11:15 PM ET
He's so good that our GM hasn't taken him off the trade block in over a year. He is so good that he plays the most minutes on one of the worst teams in NHL history. He is so good that Detroit won't even give up a Grand Rapids center taken in the mid 20's of the 1st round who has 7 goals this year for him. He is so good that if 89 was right and his source is solid and there is no reason not to think it's not the Avs offered ROR for him but wanted Grigorenko and a pick too, even though ROR is soon to be an UFA.

Myers is so good that even though he had talent and a system to play with when Vanek, Pominville and Ruff were here he was still in a funk and now he needs new excuses so his fan club says he has no one to play with and that is why he isn't an all star yet. He is so good that his best year was 6 years ago and counting..

- GilPerreault11

It's really sad that the best offensive player Myers has ever played with is currently the 4th best forward on a team not currently in the playoffs.

Thomas Vanek The guy that played when he wanted
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:19 PM ET
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:19 PM ET
That's true...
But explain how weber & Myers have comparable offensive stats then
Myers obviously has WAY more talent
Weber plays with that same group of forwards, right?!

- jdfitz77


In this season? Easy. Myers is constantly playing against the other teams best players. On this team, Myers isnt going to put up the offensive numbers because he constantly is hemmed in his own zone. Lack of talented wingers who can create time and space for other players.

What have you noticed about our break out? Anything? Is it good? Poor? Average? Theres almost no structure to it. The forwards are often high leaving the zone early. The D usually are forced to pass back and forth with each other under pressure until they eventually turn it over because there is no puck support. But, lets blame Myers. Out of all our defenseman, he actually handles the pressure the best.
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