Listen mouth, you don't S$$T about my source or what you are talking about, so don't run your mouth about me when you have not a clue as to what you are talking about.
- SABRES 89

Youve said it plenty of times on here. Your source has to text you, and he gets it from someone else.

That last deal must have got hung up. Was good info though.

Hard to have a huge disparity in numbers when they're super low in the first place.

As much as I like Girgensons, if you told me he would be the leading goal scorer on the team at the halfway point of the season, I would have said no way.
- HonkFortheGoose

Ya, that does make sense... But still... These are awfully small #s for a guy who plays so many minutes & has so much offensive talent
It's not just that he isn't putting up points, but he doesn't seem to be making offensive plays in general
Maybe that's BC he's so focused on defense, and that's fine...
But to be the player we think he can be,
He will have to grow to be able to do both

Which I think he can do
Especially if Ristolainen can grow into taking on the top defensive responsibilities
Then, we should see Myers point totals start to increase nicely

In this season? Easy. Myers is constantly playing against the other teams best players. On this team, Myers isnt going to put up the offensive numbers because he constantly is hemmed in his own zone. Lack of talented wingers who can create time and space for other players.

What have you noticed about our break out? Anything? Is it good? Poor? Average? Theres almost no structure to it. The forwards are often high leaving the zone early. The D usually are forced to pass back and forth with each other under pressure until they eventually turn it over because there is no puck support. But, lets blame Myers. Out of all our defenseman, he actually handles the pressure the best.
- theblueandgold

Matthew Coller today "He'd be the Ducks 5th defensemen"

This is what we are dealing with

- jochfr

Insert 20 laughing faces here

Our GM isnt shopping him. Hes not on the trade block.
He plays the most minutes because hes the defenseman that can handle those minutes.
You think its because Detroit wont give that player up? Laugh. Murray doesnt want that player.
89's source is 2nd hand information. Been there seen that before.

As to that whole last paragraph.... you say he was in a funk when we had talent but also say his best season came 6 years ago when he played with all that talent. I assume its just coincidence that his play has gotten "worse" as the team has suddenly taken a nosedive as well?... or is it a coincidence that Myers poor play has forced our team to be worse? Because by the way the anti-Myers crowd spouts about him, it seems like the latter.
- theblueandgold

Murray doesn't want Mantha? That's news to almost everyone.

If Myers was too valuable he would be untouchable like Girgensons and Murray wouldn't have "had regular conversations with Anaheim" alone as per this weekends article. I think it's a matter of semantics about who calls who. The point is Murray is talking about dealing Myers be it at the deadline or most likely in the offseason.

I wanted to hang to on to Myers until this season but 6 years was enough and think if there is a market for him a trade could expedite the rebuild if some team sees potential at age 25 and offers a good package.

Ya, that does make sense... But still... These are awfully small #s for a guy who plays so many minutes & has so much offensive talent
It's not just that he isn't putting up points, but he doesn't seem to be making offensive plays in general
Maybe that's BC he's so focused on defense, and that's fine...
But to be the player we think he can be,
He will have to grow to be able to do both

Which I think he can do
Especially if Ristolainen can grow into taking on the top defensive responsibilities
Then, we should see Myers point totals start to increase nicely
- jdfitz77

But based on the numbers. Ristolainen will never be ready. Because his numbers suck playing sheltered minutes.

Murray doesn't want Mantha? That's news to almost everyone.

If Myers was too valuable he would be untouchable like Girgensons and Murray wouldn't have "had regular conversations with Anaheim" alone as per this weekends article. I think it's a matter of semantics about who calls who. The point is Murray is talking about dealing Myers be it at the deadline or most likely in the offseason.

I wanted to hang to on to Myers until this season but 6 years was enough and think if there is a market for him a trade could expedite the rebuild if some team sees potential at age 25 and offers a good package.
- GilPerreault11

Who would offer up a good package for a turnover machine that cant produce?

Ya, that does make sense... But still... These are awfully small #s for a guy who plays so many minutes & has so much offensive talent
It's not just that he isn't putting up points, but he doesn't seem to be making offensive plays in general
Maybe that's BC he's so focused on defense, and that's fine...
But to be the player we think he can be,
He will have to grow to be able to do both

Which I think he can do
Especially if Ristolainen can grow into taking on the top defensive responsibilities
Then, we should see Myers point totals start to increase nicely
- jdfitz77

A better guy on his opposite side would help. I don't hate Gorges, but he has no business on the top pairing. Strachan leaves a lot to be desired as well. He needs a guy that can be trusted on his own back there so that Myers can do his thing.

Has he had struggles during his career? Yes. Is he as good as some think? No. Is he as bad as others think? No. But he has value and whatever Murray decides to do with him will be beneficial to the team, IMO.

Insert 20 laughing faces here
- Pierceme69

I only had time for 4...

It's really sad that the best offensive player Myers has ever played with is currently the 4th best forward on a team not currently in the playoffs.

Thomas Vanek The guy that played when he wanted
- sbroads24

The pity party continues for Tyler Myers - whah, whah

It's really sad that the best offensive player Myers has ever played with is currently the 4th best forward on a team not currently in the playoffs.

Thomas Vanek The guy that played when he wanted
- sbroads24

I think people really need to watch Myers and watch him closely. He is reading plays and moving to spaces or trying to move the puck where the people he is playing with are literally incapable of anticipating anything. If we do trade him, you will see an immense increase in production and you won't believe he could play that well. The team we have around him is literally inept. Just my opinion.

Think of Bouwmeester and how bad he was in Calgary. He looked like a different player.

Youve said it plenty of times on here. Your source has to text you, and he gets it from someone else.

That last deal must have got hung up. Was good info though.
- theblueandgold

Listen, I don't claim to be any insider my uncle is very close friends with someone on the Sabres staff as a matter of fact anyone can see him during games if they swing the camera across the bench. Him and my uncle talk during the week when they have time and if he has some trade info my uncle passes it on to me. Correct, it is texted to me when he finds out but that info my change as well. But don't make it sound like i'm full of it and I post " crap" just to post, I have no reason to do that nor would I do that.

I would never step on Michael's feet, this is his blog not mine, if I know something it's nice to pass it along am I right all the time, no i'm not.

Murray doesn't want Mantha? That's news to almost everyone.

If Myers was too valuable he would be untouchable like Girgensons and Murray wouldn't have "had regular conversations with Anaheim" alone as per this weekends article. I think it's a matter of semantics about who calls who. The point is Murray is talking about dealing Myers be it at the deadline or most likely in the offseason.

I wanted to hang to on to Myers until this season but 6 years was enough and think if there is a market for him a trade could expedite the rebuild if some team sees potential at age 25 and offers a good package.
- GilPerreault11

How is that news to anyone? Where have you heard a single report that Murray wants Mantha? Murray wants Dylan Larkin.

Murray isnt one to bullpoop in the media. Its not his personality. Hes a straight shooter. Hes been open to discussions, because there isnt one single player worth keeping on a last place team (another candid response from Murray). However, hes been open that hes not shopping him. Hes come out and spoke about the player he thinks Myers is. Great reach, great skating, good puck movement. Would look better if we surrounded him with better talent. Is going to take a fortune to get Myers out of Buffalo. Murray isnt shopping him.

The pity party continues for Tyler Myers - whah, whah
- GilPerreault11

If I had to pick a side I'm probably on the trade Myers side, but I don't understand the hate really. He's far from the biggest problem on this team.

In this season? Easy. Myers is constantly playing against the other teams best players. On this team, Myers isnt going to put up the offensive numbers because he constantly is hemmed in his own zone. Lack of talented wingers who can create time and space for other players.

What have you noticed about our break out? Anything? Is it good? Poor? Average? Theres almost no structure to it. The forwards are often high leaving the zone early. The D usually are forced to pass back and forth with each other under pressure until they eventually turn it over because there is no puck support. But, lets blame Myers. Out of all our defenseman, he actually handles the pressure the best.
- theblueandgold

Right...
But weber has similar points.
Sure Myers goes up against tougher talent. But he also has played around twice as many minutes as Weber has this year & has WAY more talent.
I get what everyone is saying in his defense, and I do think there's merit to it. But at the same time, I do think Myers is getting a bot of a pass on not producing offensively. I don't think he should have 40pts or anything... But he has soooo little that I think it's fair to expect more

How is that news to anyone? Where have you heard a single report that Murray wants Mantha? Murray wants Dylan Larkin.

Murray isnt one to bullpoop in the media. Its not his personality. Hes a straight shooter. Hes been open to discussions, because there isnt one single player worth keeping on a last place team (another candid response from Murray). However, hes been open that hes not shopping him. Hes come out and spoke about the player he thinks Myers is. Great reach, great skating, good puck movement. Would look better if we surrounded him with better talent. Is going to take a fortune to get Myers out of Buffalo. Murray isnt shopping him.
- theblueandgold

Isn't being open to offers technically shopping him?

Who would offer up a good package for a turnover machine that cant produce?
- sbroads24

Some team who likes a big body who can skate and shoots right, they won't be trading for production. Potential

But based on the numbers. Ristolainen will never be ready. Because his numbers suck playing sheltered minutes.
- sbroads24

He's also a rookie
Why do u keep bringing him up?

Listen, I don't claim to be any insider my uncle is very close friends with someone on the Sabres staff as a matter of fact anyone can see him during games if they swing the camera across the bench. Him and my uncle talk during the week when they have time and if he has some trade info my uncle passes it on to me. Correct, it is texted to me when he finds out but that info my change as well. But don't make it sound like i'm full of it and I post " crap" just to post, I have no reason to do that nor would I do that.

I would never step on Michael's feet, this is his blog not mine, if I know something it's nice to pass it along i'm I right all the time, no i'm not.
- SABRES 89

How do you get that im saying "full of it" and "posts crap" out of literally "2nd hand information"? You just admitted, as you have plenty of times before thats its 2nd hand information... you get it from someone who gets it from someone who gets it from... Murray?

Stop being so defensive about it, Im not calling you a liar or anything like that, just skeptical about what youre being fed.

How is that news to anyone? Where have you heard a single report that Murray wants Mantha? Murray wants Dylan Larkin.

Murray isnt one to bullpoop in the media. Its not his personality. Hes a straight shooter. Hes been open to discussions, because there isnt one single player worth keeping on a last place team (another candid response from Murray). However, hes been open that hes not shopping him. Hes come out and spoke about the player he thinks Myers is. Great reach, great skating, good puck movement. Would look better if we surrounded him with better talent. Is going to take a fortune to get Myers out of Buffalo. Murray isnt shopping him.
- theblueandgold

I've heard tons of rumors that Murray wanted Mantha before Larkin but Mantha was a total no go on Detroits end.

A better guy on his opposite side would help. I don't hate Gorges, but he has no business on the top pairing. Strachan leaves a lot to be desired as well. He needs a guy that can be trusted on his own back there so that Myers can do his thing.

Has he had struggles during his career? Yes. Is he as good as some think? No. Is he as bad as others think? No. But he has value and whatever Murray decides to do with him will be beneficial to the team, IMO.
- HonkFortheGoose

It's weird when we agree, hahaha

I think people really need to watch Myers and watch him closely. He is reading plays and moving to spaces or trying to move the puck where the people he is playing with are literally incapable of anticipating anything. If we do trade him, you will see an immense increase in production and you won't believe he could play that well. The team we have around him is literally inept. Just my opinion.

Think of Bouwmeester and how bad he was in Calgary. He looked like a different player.
- BigStew

Someone has an eye for the game.

Canes and Ducks tied at 2

He's also a rookie
Why do u keep bringing him up?
- jdfitz77

A good portion of the people that post Myers should be moved and isn't good say that Ristolainen and Zadorov have made Myers expendable.

Some team who likes a big body who can skate and shoots right, they won't be trading for production. Potential
- GilPerreault11

Would Matt Moulson or Zemgus Girgensons be a top 6 player on LA, St. Louis or Chicago? Honest question