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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Tyler Myers to the Red Wings probably won't happen at the trade deadline
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 4 @ 1:13 AM ET
Theres a reason Murray has set the price high, and its not because he views Myers as a 2nd pairing defenseman.
- theblueandgold



Idk about all that
Murray is at least "listening"
U don't hear about GMs listening to offers for weber, doughty, etc
I doubt Murray would even entertain offers if he thought Myers would be a true #1
Although he obv likes him & isn't gonna give him away either unless there's a big return
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 4 @ 1:15 AM ET
Rumors....
.here is am actual quote from a GM about Myers "I'm not trying to trade the guy"

Find me an actual quote of a GM admitting he turned down Mantha for Myers, until then it's speculation at best

- sbroads24



Why would any GM give out that info?
It would make even talking trades with other GMs much more difficult
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:20 AM ET
Rumors....
.here is am actual quote from a GM about Myers "I'm not trying to trade the guy"

Find me an actual quote of a GM admitting he turned down Mantha for Myers, until then it's speculation at best

- sbroads24


Elliote Friedman is pretty trustworthy on these things and definitive on this and he wasn't the only one to report this:

According to HNIC's Elliotte Friedman, the Sabres requested Anthony Mantha back from the Red Wings in a trade for Tyler Myers.
"The Red Wings stopped there," Friedman said. Perhaps the Red Wings would’ve considered if they were acquiring the Myers from a few years ago. As is, Mantha, the 20th pick in the 2013 draft, is loaded with potential, scoring 57 times and notching 120 points in the QMJHL last season. While Myers, 24, has been a shadow of the player he was his rookie season when he recorded 48 points.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...ed-mantha-for-tyler-myers

McKenzie is rock solid on these and he reported it too:

McKenzie also noted that the Sabres wanted top prospect Anthony Mantha or Gustav Nyquist in return for Myers in discussions last year. Those were non-starters for the Red Wings according to the report, but Detroit's pro scouts will continue watching Myers.

http://www.cbssports.com/...t-interest-in-tyler-myers

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:22 AM ET
Elliote Friedman is pretty trustworthy on these things and definitive on this and he wasn't the only one to report this:

According to HNIC's Elliotte Friedman, the Sabres requested Anthony Mantha back from the Red Wings in a trade for Tyler Myers.
"The Red Wings stopped there," Friedman said. Perhaps the Red Wings would’ve considered if they were acquiring the Myers from a few years ago. As is, Mantha, the 20th pick in the 2013 draft, is loaded with potential, scoring 57 times and notching 120 points in the QMJHL last season. While Myers, 24, has been a shadow of the player he was his rookie season when he recorded 48 points.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...ed-mantha-for-tyler-myers

McKenzie is rock solid on these and he reported it too:

McKenzie also noted that the Sabres wanted top prospect Anthony Mantha or Gustav Nyquist in return for Myers in discussions last year. Those were non-starters for the Red Wings according to the report, but Detroit's pro scouts will continue watching Myers.

http://www.cbssports.com/...t-interest-in-tyler-myers

- GilPerreault11

Rumors....nothing factual
Murray "I have not made 1 call regarding Tyler Myers"
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:24 AM ET
Why would any GM give out that info?
It would make even talking trades with other GMs much more difficult

- jdfitz77

Right so how in the hell would Bruce Garroich or Bob McKenzie have a clue
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:24 AM ET
Rumors....nothing factual
Murray "I have not made 1 call regarding Tyler Myers"

- sbroads24


Blah blah blah I see nothing, I hear nothing
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:28 AM ET
Rumors....nothing factual
Murray "I have not made 1 call regarding Tyler Myers"

- sbroads24


If you believe Murray has not made one call about Myers I've got a bridge to sell you. He has to soothe the feelings of the big guy and obviously people like you There are politics in play everywhere, in every part of life.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:32 AM ET
If you believe Murray has not made one call about Myers I've got a bridge to sell you. He has to soothe the feelings of the big guy. There are politics in play everywhere, in every part of life.
- GilPerreault11

Then why is Myers still here? If he wanted him gone he would have moved him last year when he was scoring goals.

With all these bad games and bad turnovers, his value is falling. Murray obviously has no clue
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:38 AM ET
Then why is Myers still here? If he wanted him gone he would have moved him last year when he was scoring goals.

With all these bad games and bad turnovers, his value is falling. Murray obviously has no clue

- sbroads24


Well, he couldn't get the 20th pick in the draft, so I guess he's hoping for a better deal to come along or just hold onto the guy, wait for injuries to open the market more. Who knows.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:40 AM ET
Well, he couldn't get the 20th pick in the draft, so I guess he's hoping for a better deal to come along or just hold onto the guy, wait for injuries to open the market more. Who knows.
- GilPerreault11

Dude what are you talking about? He never offered Myers for the 20th pick.

He said he tried using all 3 2nds to move up into the middle of the 1st round and no one would bite.

He also said after the draft and this is a direct quote "I wouldn't have moved him for the 10th pick let alone the 24th".

I'm starting to think you just make things up
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:42 AM ET
Dude what are you talking about? He never offered Myers for the 20th pick.

He said he tried using all 3 2nds to move up into the middle of the 1st round and no one would bite.

He also said after the draft and this is a direct quote "I wouldn't have moved him for the 10th pick let alone the 24th".

I'm starting to think you just make things up

- sbroads24


Dude, Mantha was the 20th pick in the draft
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:44 AM ET
Dude, Mantha was the 20th pick in the draft
- GilPerreault11

Yea, 2 years ago... before he was GM
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:46 AM ET
Yea, 2 years ago... before he was GM
- sbroads24


The point being he wasn't a a top ten stud pick who is still in the minors with 7 goals who Detroit would not let go of for your man? crush infatuation stud #1 defenseman
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 4 @ 1:48 AM ET
Right so how in the hell would Bruce Garroich or Bob McKenzie have a clue
- sbroads24


Well Murray isn't the only one in the room...
And ppl do talk
We've gotten reliable info from Homer here many times
You really doubt that these NHL insiders don't hear what goes on?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:51 AM ET
The point being he wasn't a a top ten stud pick who is still in the minors with 7 goals who Detroit would not let go of for your man? crush infatuation stud #1 defenseman
- GilPerreault11


Man, you are out to lunch. At least know about the players you are making statements about. Mantha was the leading goal scorer in juniors last season, the season we apparently offered Myers for him.

This year he's in the AHL. Just like Joel Armia, he's struggling adapting to the pro game.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:52 AM ET
Well Murray isn't the only one in the room...
And ppl do talk
We've gotten reliable info from Homer here many times
You really doubt that these NHL insiders don't hear what goes on?

- jdfitz77

So them letting info leak is bad, but they leak info because other people are in the room? Which is it?
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:52 AM ET
Well Murray isn't the only one in the room...
And ppl do talk
We've gotten reliable info from Homer here many times
You really doubt that these NHL insiders don't hear what goes on?

- jdfitz77


He knows it's true but won't concede it. He'd be the 1st person in North America to think he knows more than Bob MacKenzie regarding an insider trade report.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 4 @ 1:55 AM ET
So them letting info leak is bad, but they leak info because other people are in the room? Which is it?
- sbroads24


Huh?
I don't even know what you're asking?
U seem combative over something that's very obvious
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:55 AM ET
Man, you are out to lunch. At least know about the players you are making statements about. Mantha was the leading goal scorer in juniors last season, the season we apparently offered Myers for him.

This year he's in the AHL. Just like Joel Armia, he's struggling adapting to the pro game.

- sbroads24


He's in the minors, had over 120 pts in the Q, 57 goals what don't I know about the guy? I said he was the 20th pick in the draft and you assumed I meant last year when all I meant was he was taken 20th and they still wouldn't give up your golden boy for him. If Armia was on another team would you trade Myers for Armia? I hope so.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:55 AM ET
He knows it's true but won't concede it. He'd be the 1st person in North America to think he knows more than Bob MacKenzie regarding an insider trade report.
- GilPerreault11

Eh, at least I know what year players I have opinions on were drafted.

See people like McKenzie, EK, Garroich have you hook, line and sinker. They tell you everything you wanna hear that will drum up hits on Hockeybuzz or Twitter.

Ever wonder why there are soooo many Maple Leaf rumors yet they never seem to actually trade anyone?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:57 AM ET
Huh?
I don't even know what you're asking?
U seem combative over something that's very obvious

- jdfitz77

You asked why a GM would leak info....did you not? Then turned around and said that there are other people in rooms that leak info
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:59 AM ET
Eh, at least I know what year players I have opinions on were drafted.

See people like McKenzie, EK, Garroich have you hook, line and sinker. They tell you everything you wanna hear that will drum up hits on Hockeybuzz or Twitter.

Ever wonder why there are soooo many Maple Leaf rumors yet they never seem to actually trade anyone?

- sbroads24


See, you put Ek and Garroich in the same category as McKenzie and that is just crazy..Dreger has a lot of Leafs rumors
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Feb 4 @ 2:01 AM ET
You asked why a GM would leak info....did you not? Then turned around and said that there are other people in rooms that leak info
- sbroads24


I think we are going to have to come to your side the day Myers gets dealt. It's going to be a tough day for you. We'll be there for ya sport
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:03 AM ET
See, you put Ek and Garroich in the same category as McKenzie and that is just crazy..Dreger has a lot of Leafs rumors
- GilPerreault11

So what if Ken Holland leaked info that they had talks? You said yourself it's politics. Is that not possible? What if Murray never even asked about Mantha but Holland wanted to steer teams away from Myers. Make it seem like Murray was being unreasonable
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:05 AM ET
I think we are going to have to come to your side the day Myers gets dealt. It's going to be a tough day for you. We'll be there for ya sport
- GilPerreault11

Funny thing is it won't bother me that much, because if he is moved it will be for a haul. I just love debating flawed biased opinions or rumors played off as facts
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