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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 3 @ 2:01 PM ET
As of right now, Steve Mason could be a Vezina finalist. Price, Rinne, Mason, Anderson, Lundqvist, Schneider and Elliott (to a lesser extent) are all in the mix. Price is leading the pack, IMO, with Rinne out but it wouldn't shock me if Mason finishes 3rd or 4th if he keeps up his play so far this season.
- NickTheKid87


I was also looking at his rank for gaa.. his 2.32 is 13th but there are tenders on the list like Pickard who have played less than half of the games. If he keeps this up, he could be top ten. With the D and overall team play he's had, it's remarkable that he's in the same disussion stats wise as Rinne and Price. I mean, his 1st shutout this season was a 1-0 shootout loss..
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 3 @ 2:03 PM ET
I've said this a couple times on here over the years but in the 1990 draft preview the just fired Bob Clarke said the best player in the draft to him was Jagr. had he not been fired the Flyers very well may have taken Jagr over Ricci.
- nastyflyergirl

...and at that draft it was well known that Farwell had desperately tried to trade up to get Nedved and couldn't do it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 3 @ 2:07 PM ET
Had Forsberg been a Flyer during his prime years, he'd hold the title, and that isn't a slight to any other Flyer. And agree about Kane. But I was just thinking that we may (MAY) be seeing, right now, the most purely offensively skilled player in team history. Kinda like the 07-11 Phillies, we may complain from time to time, but we should appreciate watching him (and Voracek) while we can.
- jmatchett383


you might be right. it's hard for me to separate lindros' "complete package" from the pure offensive skill part, so lean that way with him, and i go back to 1980. i can't really comment on the true bullies because i only saw a few them in their twilight.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
...and at that draft it was well known that Farwell had desperately tried to trade up to get Nedved and couldn't do it.
- mayorofangrytown


Correct. They had been together when Farwell was GM of Seattle and Nedved was playing there. Farwell even said on the record in pre-draft newspaper interviews that he would love to work something out to be able to draft Nedved.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 3 @ 2:13 PM ET
Of the 57 NHL goalies who have played at least 500 minutes this season, Mason is getting the 10th lowest goal support (2.15 per game). Emery has gotten the third highest (3.25).

http://stats.hockeyanalys...als&sort=F60&sortdir=DESC
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 3 @ 2:16 PM ET
I honestly think that in the next season or two, providing he stays healthy, Mason is going to move into the discussion on the top goalies in the League.
- MJL

I sincerely hope so. He's brought much needed stability in net. It's a shame they haven't gotten him more wins, given his performances, but the way he plays he deserves much more positive attention.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 3 @ 2:17 PM ET
Of the 57 NHL goalies who have played at least 500 minutes this season, Mason is getting the 10th lowest goal support (2.15 per game). Emery has gotten the third highest (3.25).

http://stats.hockeyanalys...als&sort=F60&sortdir=DESC

- bmeltzer

Solution: Switch jerseys.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
I was also looking at his rank for gaa.. his 2.32 is 13th but there are tenders on the list like Pickard who have played less than half of the games. If he keeps this up, he could be top ten. With the D and overall team play he's had, it's remarkable that he's in the same disussion stats wise as Rinne and Price. I mean, his 1st shutout this season was a 1-0 shootout loss..
- Hextall271

Speaking of Rinne and Price, they're the only goalies that have a better even strength save % than Mason (min. 30 GP) right now. That's impressive company.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
Correct. They had been together when Farwell was GM of Seattle and Nedved was playing there. Farwell even said on the record in pre-draft newspaper interviews that he would love to work something out to be able to draft Nedved.
- bmeltzer


Pretty damn good draft class. 15 of the players selected went on to play in 1000 plus games and another 4 played in the 900's. Can't believe Jagr is still playing and Brodeur finally just retired.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 3 @ 2:34 PM ET
Speaking of Rinne and Price, they're the only goalies that have a better even strength save % than Mason (min. 30 GP) right now. That's impressive company.
- TobyFlenderson


Now you see why I get pissed when malean says that the Flyers goaltending has been inconsistent or JR says that Mason can't win the team a cup. He's been remarkably consistent since his arrival so much so, I always think to myself, how nice it is to have such solid goaltending (puckhandling too)
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 2:48 PM ET
you might be right. it's hard for me to separate lindros' "complete package" from the pure offensive skill part, so lean that way with him, and i go back to 1980. i can't really comment on the true bullies because i only saw a few them in their twilight.
- hammarby31

Comparable to Giroux?
Clarke: unreal playmaker and very, very hard to get off the puck. Fantastic on faceoffs and defensively too

Barber: extremely skilled at every facet of the game

Rick Macleish: inconsistent, but when he turned it up he was as skilled as anyone
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
Can't wait for Nick Grossmann to get back into the lineup. SORELY missed.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
Can't wait for Nick Grossmann to get back into the lineup. SORELY missed.
- bradleyc4


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
Can't wait for Nick Grossmann to get back into the lineup. SORELY missed.
- bradleyc4


Better than Coliacovo.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
Of the 57 NHL goalies who have played at least 500 minutes this season, Mason is getting the 10th lowest goal support (2.15 per game). Emery has gotten the third highest (3.25).

http://stats.hockeyanalys...als&sort=F60&sortdir=DESC

- bmeltzer


Coburn is getting burned with the goal support too
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
ek says coburn may be traded please hexy take any value for him
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
Of the 57 NHL goalies who have played at least 500 minutes this season, Mason is getting the 10th lowest goal support (2.15 per game). Emery has gotten the third highest (3.25).

http://stats.hockeyanalys...als&sort=F60&sortdir=DESC

- bmeltzer


But Kris Versteeg is getting the 6th most goal support.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
ek says coburn may be traded please hexy take any value for him
- 2Real


Any? I expect significant value
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 3 @ 3:40 PM ET


(looks like a poor man's Kovalchuk)
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:42 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 3:44 PM ET


(looks like a poor man's Kovalchuk)

- Tomahawk


Would you rather be guaranteed the Stanley Cup this season or given 15 first round picks in this years draft. The pick slots would be chosen randomly.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 3 @ 3:45 PM ET
Would you rather be guaranteed the Stanley Cup this season or given 15 first round picks in this years draft. The pick slots would be chosen randomly.
- PhillySportsGuy


The 15 picks, easy
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
Speaking of Rinne and Price, they're the only goalies that have a better even strength save % than Mason (min. 30 GP) right now. That's impressive company.
- TobyFlenderson


stahp it. he sucks. everybody knows that. just ask jr.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:51 PM ET
The 15 picks, easy
- mochoson

no
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
Would you rather be guaranteed the Stanley Cup this season or given 15 first round picks in this years draft. The pick slots would be chosen randomly.
- PhillySportsGuy


15 picks, (frank) the Cup.
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