No one is defending Gillis on here . He may go down in folklore as the Titanic of the Canucks.

Let's talk about the owner. The owner contemplated long and hard , and had half a city ,and the media ,rallying behind him to spend 20 million dollars to buy out Luongo


He settled on about 5.6 million over the next 7 years and took in return a goalie that the former team gave up as a bust, and a third line centre.
What does it tell you when an owner is willing to pay 5 million to get this guy out of the dressing room and off the team.

Call me stupid ,but it doesn't sound to me like ringing endorsement to that star player.

The only two other goalies I have ever heard of in the history of the game where a team spent millions to ship a goalie out were Huet of the Hawks and Bryzgalov of the Flyers. That is not elite company IMO.

But I am sure other goalies like Cam Ward or Mike Smith cry and sulk when they get beaten for the starting job.

I am sure the owner of the Preds flies across the continent to tell Rinne that they traded the other goalie .
I am sure Price and Brodeur had these same problems over two years with their owners and GMs.

Yup Nothing wrong with Robetra it was all Gillis.
- VANTEL

You understand that I was talking about how Gillis used the media and how people easily sucked into it. I don't really have much to defend when it comes to Luongo. I called the situation cancerous in theat post. People brushed me off when I said it was going to hurt the team keeping him back when all this was going on....many disagreed(not you). The point was made that Gillis was using the media for fan lip service... and that is correct. There's no shortage of people who gobble it up without consideration....

I don't know why you need to go after me for not blaming the owner as well....my post was about Gillis not who's to blame you old fart. Sorry for giving Gillis a bad rap...

I just trade Higgins and kassian to a panthers fan for Kulikov and a 2nd
- Bieksa#3

(frank) yea I'd take that deal

Horvat 2-2-4 in last 6 games
- stevekariya

He's doing incredible well. So far, it impresses me most that it doesnt matter who they've played with him... that line gets poop done. His time on the 4rth line will be but a memory next season... he oozes line chemistry. Our 3rd liner next season for sure.

He's doing incredible well. So far, it impresses me most that it doesnt matter who they've played with him... that line gets poop done. His time on the 4rth line will be but a memory next season... he oozes line chemistry. Our 3rd liner next season for sure.
- boonerbuck

The only reason I would be sad to see him on the third is that 4th line has been so good... He looks more confident every game and now it is like he is sheltering his linemates rather than the other way around

You understand that I was talking about how Gillis used the media and how people easily sucked into it. I don't really have much to defend when it comes to Luongo. I called the situation cancerous in theat post. People brushed me off when I said it was going to hurt the team keeping him back when all this was going on....many disagreed(not you). The point was made that Gillis was using the media for fan lip service... and that is correct. There's no shortage of people who gobble it up without consideration....

I don't know why you need to go after me for not blaming the owner as well....my post was about Gillis not who's to blame you old fart. Sorry for giving Gillis a bad rap...

- boonerbuck

I was not defending Gillis either. I have called him a POS many times as well

He's doing incredible well. So far, it impresses me most that it doesnt matter who they've played with him... that line gets poop done. His time on the 4rth line will be but a memory next season... he oozes line chemistry. Our 3rd liner next season for sure.
- boonerbuck

I already do consider Bo and Dorsett our third line

I already do consider Bo and Dorsett our third line
- VANTEL

Yep. Especially when Higgins, Vey, and Hansen are on a line together. They were invisible last night.

Yep. Especially when Higgins, Vey, and Hansen are on a line together. They were invisible last night.
- PetrolSexual

Exactly

The only reason I would be sad to see him on the third is that 4th line has been so good... He looks more confident every game and now it is like he is sheltering his linemates rather than the other way around
- bezz44

The 4th line is the 3rd line. They just need a 2nd line.

Exactly
- VANTEL

Things are getting heated on the home page

Yep. Especially when Higgins, Vey, and Hansen are on a line together. They were invisible last night.
- PetrolSexual

Vey really doesn't bring much. No speed, no size, no grit, no shot... he's got good hands and vision.... but that only goes so far. I wouldn't care if we replaced that whole line with prospects and picks.

I was not defending Gillis either. I have called him a POS many times as well
- VANTEL

You love Gillis and hate me.

I already do consider Bo and Dorsett our third line
- VANTEL

Ya, that is probably a reasonable way to call it.

Vey really doesn't bring much. No speed, no size, no grit, no shot... he's got good hands and vision.... but that only goes so far. I wouldn't care if we replaced that whole line with prospects and picks.
- Scooby_Doo

He's got a great shot. That's why he was used on the first PP. Kid is pretty creative as well. This is his rookie season, I think he's doing fine considering.

You love Gillis and hate me.

- boonerbuck

No. I actually like you and really dislike our recently fired GM

Vey really doesn't bring much. No speed, no size, no grit, no shot... he's got good hands and vision.... but that only goes so far. I wouldn't care if we replaced that whole line with prospects and picks.
- Scooby_Doo

I like him. I think he has some slick moves and just needs time

You love Gillis and hate me.

- boonerbuck

Aren't they the same guy

The 4th line is the 3rd line. They just need a 2nd line.
- Marwood

Might as well add a 1st line to that list as well.

Might as well add a 1st line to that list as well.
- bloatedmosquito

And a #1 d

Might as well add a 1st line to that list as well.
- bloatedmosquito

I think the Horvat line has out scored the first line in the last 5 games

New 2nd unit...

4 forwards: Horvat, Kassian(yes him!), Vey, Bonino
1 D-man: Clendening

Will probably get beat for a few SHGs, but hopefully more goals for and less momentum-killing horrible PP's for that 2nd unit. Higgins can (frank) off, he has no place on an NHL powerplay. I love Dorsett, but he also should be no where near a PP.
- Nucker101

I was screaming this everytime he was on the PP!!!

wow, no wonder the guy was a pariah in the hockey world for so long...not exactly a message you want to send to players
- Zogg

WTF is it, that if anyone say's what they truly think these days they crapped all over by the court of public opinion?
Nolan gave a perfectly honest assessment of the situation. I doubt there's a single player on the sabres who would disagree with him.
I don't hold out a lot of hope for our society when every time someone states something "controversial" they are in danger of losing there livelihood.
No wonder hockey players and politicians just spout clichés and redundant drivel these days when they get interviewed.

I like him. I think he has some slick moves and just needs time
- VANTEL

Vey may be a sell high trade in the future I think. I sometimes wonder if all these scouts showing up are looking at him as well.

He's got a great shot. That's why he was used on the first PP. Kid is pretty creative as well. This is his rookie season, I think he's doing fine considering.
- Mungo

He is creative, but I just don't know where he fits long term.

7 goals 10 assists. Yah not bad for a rookie year. Better than a few of our rookies recently.

Kassian for Patrick Weircoch is what I have heard
- Bieksa#3

booo...a healthy scratch on a bad team!