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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 4 @ 8:17 AM ET
It's added now. I often add second and third sections to a blog after getting the main bar posted.
- bmeltzer


Thanks bill. Just making sure you realized.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 4 @ 8:18 AM ET
yeah, you impatient bastards!
- BiggE


Drink your scotch and shut up
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 4 @ 8:25 AM ET
If the team were to land a big forward via trade I think I'd sooner go for a play making winger with some sniping ability for Coots. Our top line regardless of who plays with G and Jake is one of the absolute hottest in hockey. They can't be on the ice at all times though so I'd like to see a more offensively dangerous 2nd line if possible.
- hereticpride


I agree 100%. The flyers need to get better at 5v5 as well as get a more productive 2nd line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:28 AM ET
Exactly. If we got Evander Kane (take significant assets to do so despite his shortcomings), it'd be to fill the hole at left wing on the top line.. It'd be out of sight.
- Hextall271


In my opinion, there really isn't a hole at left wing on the top line. Flyers can put a guy like Raffle there, to compliment Giroux and Voracek, and it would be one of the top lines in the league. The hole is on the 2nd line. They need a player to put there to make that line a consistent scoring threat. Any forward I'd trade for is with that 2nd line in mind.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 8:34 AM ET
Bill, do you see Cousins' best shot at sticking in the NHL as a 4th line center, or do you think the top-9 (or higher) is feasible?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 4 @ 8:36 AM ET
In my opinion, there really isn't a hole at left wing on the top line. Flyers can put a guy like Raffle there, to compliment Giroux and Voracek, and it would be one of the top lines in the league. The hole is on the 2nd line. They need a player to put there to make that line a consistent scoring threat. Any forward I'd trade for is with that 2nd line in mind.
- MJL


That's why I think Kane would look nice on the 2nd line with Couturier. Also kane isn't terrible in his own end so if you play him with Couturier you still have a defensivly solid line as well. Also his speed would be nice on the wing with a center that is not as fst as Couturier.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 4 @ 8:37 AM ET
Bill, do you see Cousins' best shot at sticking in the NHL as a 4th line center, or do you think the top-9 (or higher) is feasible?
- jmatchett383



One thing i noticed is Cousins must have some of the best one liners on the ice. Games i have watched he can seem to make a little comment going by someone and next thing you know the guy is spearing him or trying to get at him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:38 AM ET
That's why I think Kane would look nice on the 2nd line with Couturier. Also kane isn't terrible in his own end so if you play him with Couturier you still have a defensivly solid line as well. Also his speed would be nice on the wing with a center that is not as fst as Couturier.
- J35Bacher



He would look nice, but I would bet the price would be too high to consider.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 8:39 AM ET
One thing i noticed is Cousins must have some of the best one liners on the ice. Games i have watched he can seem to make a little comment going by someone and next thing you know the guy is spearing him or trying to get at him.
- J35Bacher


Nick Cousins? Can't be.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 4 @ 8:40 AM ET
He would look nice, but I would bet the price would be too high to consider.
- MJL



It might be.

I don't know exactly what it would cost. I was more or less expressing that I think Kane and Kassian bring elements I like that the Flyers could use.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 4 @ 8:44 AM ET
Kane would be perfect for us and if they want B schenn in the deal, i'd do it. Our top 6 would be fantastic and i'm sure our PP would improve as well. Say if we do trade schenn in the deal:

Raffl-G-Jake
Kane-Couts-Simmonds

Or even swap Kane and Raffl. Our first line would be bonkers with Kane but as someone mentioned it would be great to have two extremely solid lines
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 4 @ 8:45 AM ET
Bill, do you see Cousins' best shot at sticking in the NHL as a 4th line center, or do you think the top-9 (or higher) is feasible?
- jmatchett383


I think he can eventually be lower end of top 9 or higher end of bottom 6, depending on how you want to look at it.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 4 @ 8:47 AM ET
I think he can eventually be lower end of top 9 or higher end of bottom 6, depending on how you want to look at it.
- bmeltzer



Would he be comparable to Marchand?

I mean I beleive Marchand is faster but they both seem to have the same game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:53 AM ET
It might be.

I don't know exactly what it would cost. I was more or less expressing that I think Kane and Kassian bring elements I like that the Flyers could use.

- J35Bacher


I honestly don't get the fascination with Kassian.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 8:54 AM ET
I honestly don't get the fascination with Kassian.
- MJL


He's big, and is kinda okay at hockey.

That's more or less it.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 4 @ 8:58 AM ET
I saw the Jets scratched Kane. Kassian seems like the odd man out in Vancouver. I wonder what cost for these guys would be as I think both bring elements the Flyers could use moving forward.
- J35Bacher


I like Kane. I'm just meh on Kassian.

I can't even imagine what the Jets would want for Kane that the Flyers could give them.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
He's big, and is kinda okay at hockey.

That's more or less it.

- jmatchett383


You can never have enough Zac's around, I guess.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
He's big, and is kinda okay at hockey.

That's more or less it.

- jmatchett383



Can we get Kassian for a 3rd round pick or a minor prospect, then I'm in. Otherwise, pass.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
I like Kane. I'm just meh on Kassian.

I can't even imagine what the Jets would want for Kane that the Flyers could give them.

- johndewar


If they were free agents and the Flyers had the cap space, I'd be okay with both.

But if we have to give up hard assets plus cap space for both...no thanks.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 9:01 AM ET
Side note: Sports Center opened its show today with a highlight: the Hutton save.

So, basically, the world ends today.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:03 AM ET
Side note: Sports Center opened its show today with a highlight: the Hutton save.

So, basically, the world ends today.

- jmatchett383


Speaking of ESPN and the world ending, ESPN won the rights to the World Cup:

http://www.si.com/nhl/201...-hockey-espn-tv-broadcast
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
Speaking of ESPN and the world ending, ESPN won the rights to the World Cup:

http://www.si.com/nhl/201...-hockey-espn-tv-broadcast

- johndewar


Yeah, not a fan of ESPN or the kinda sorta World-esque Cup of Hockey
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
He's big, and is kinda okay at hockey.

That's more or less it.

- jmatchett383


I think there is more to his game.

I feel in the right situation he could be valuable. He has skill and can play an edgy game. I feel he has same skill sets as Marroon and Beleksy. Those guys get used with Getzlaf and Perry routinely. I think in Buffalo and Vanoucver they limit him to bottom 6 rolls all the time. He had good games playing with the Sedins. Just didn't capitalize enough to stay there.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 9:07 AM ET
Can we get Kassian for a 3rd round pick or a minor prospect, then I'm in. Otherwise, pass.
- MJL


$1.75M cap hit for next year for 4 points in 26 games? No thank you. Dude had one good year and that's it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 9:07 AM ET
I think there is more to his game.

I feel in the right situation he could be valuable. He has skill and can play an edgy game. I feel he has same skill sets as Marroon and Beleksy. Those guys get used with Getzlaf and Perry routinely. I think in Buffalo and Vanoucver they limit him to bottom 6 rolls all the time. He had good games playing with the Sedins. Just didn't capitalize enough to stay there.

- J35Bacher


I could pot some goals playing with the Sedin's. Just go to the net with your stick on the ice and they'll go in.

He's a bottom-6 player who is basically Rinaldo with an ounce of offensive talent. I'd rather not trade for other teams' healthy scratches.
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