That's because they're fringe nhl prospects. Besides for some of them it's their first year in the AHL.

As for the special teams stuff, again it really doesn't matter if they were really all that concerned about the special teams they would have gone out and gotten

And from what i've read the D outside of Pysyk and McCabe (and maybe Ruhwedel) is pretty bad. But those are the two d-men with any real nhl talent anways so again who cares if Gauthier-leduc and Brady Austin are under-performing ?
- Sabresfan-365

Sundher
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all third rd picks

I am becoming optimistic with Brycen Martin becoming a gem since his WHL trade to Saskatoon. A lot of talk coming from out west about how great a trade that was for him and Saskatoon. Hes playing with more confidence and purpose and upped his point production to ppg with his new team.
- theblueandgold

I really liked the pick at the time and i agree the trade seems to have done him wonders.

It's still a boom/bust move but I figure with the stockpile they have in the system a pick like this every now and then could turn into a steal for us.

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all third rd picks
- homiedclown

All career AHLer?

rochester is a classier, if smaller, place than Buffalo
- homiedclown

Fixed.

The Amerks are a mess.

Let's fight about something important.

From the last blog and since it took me a couple mins to cut and paste these names, phew, I'm posting this again regarding defenseman taking longer to develop than forwards:

All these defenseman were taken in the 1st round in 2008 and pretty much all are developed to the point where they are who they are. There won't be some magic switch where they become 10 times the players they or 10 times worse.

Drew Doughty

Alex Pietrangelo

Zach Bogosian

Luke Schenn

Tyler Myers

Erik Karlsson

Michael Del Zotto

Jake Gardiner

John Carlson
- GilPerreault11

Meszaros, Benoit, Weber, Strachan, Gorges.... c'mon man!


- theblueandgold

Meszaros averaged around 5 goals a season for his career
Benoit scored 10 goals in his last 112 games before joining the sabres
Gorges is good for 2 a year

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- homiedclown

3 of those 4 were already written off long before Murray showed up. And like you said, they're 3rd round picks, what is the success rate of 3rd rounders anyways? It's not like 29 other teams are just constantly churning out nhl players from 3rd round picks.

I really liked the pick at the time and i agree the trade seems to have done him wonders.

It's still a boom/bust move but I figure with the stockpile they have in the system a pick like this every now and then could turn into a steal for us.
- Sabresfan-365

2 trade up targets of mine after McEichel would be Provorov and Carlo. Really like both. I have a feeling Provorov goes as high as 8. Just a very great game all around. Skating, puck control, first pass, IQ... hes gonna be good.

We definitely need to add some D prospects since after McCabe and Pysyk in Rochester there is only Martin. Thats a concern for the pipeline. Although I think we'll be set with Myers, Risto, Zads, Pysyk in the NHL for at least 3-5 years together, so there is time to restock on that front.

(brought over from last blog from Gil Per 11)
For entertainment purposes only:

All these defenseman were taken in the 1st round in 2008 and pretty much all are developed to the point where they are who they are. There won't be some magic switch where they become 10 times the players they or 10 times worse.

***Drew Doughty - A+

**.5 Alex Pietrangelo -A-

**.5 Zach Bogosian -A-

*Luke Schenn -B- C

*Tyler Myers - B -?

***Erik Karlsson - A+

*Michael Del Zotto - B-

*Jake Gardiner - B

**John Carlson B++

- GilPerreault11



Done, nice work 11
- Irish 14

Gardiner better than Myers?

Bogosian=Pietrangelo?

Fixed.

The Amerks are a mess.

Let's fight about something important.
- Der Kaiser

Best wings in town?

Fixed.

The Amerks are a mess.

Let's fight about something important.
- Der Kaiser

I don't see why people think this. The only thing that matters is that our better prospects develop to their potential. We won't know that for quite a while.

Best wings in town?
- Buffalo-Sabres

All career AHLer?
- dadeadhead

2010 was not a good draft class for darcy after the first rd

and he took Sutch over Gallagher in the 5th rd

2 trade up targets of mine after McEichel would be Provorov and Carlo. Really like both. I have a feeling Provorov goes as high as 8. Just a very great game all around. Skating, puck control, first pass, IQ... hes gonna be good.

We definitely need to add some D prospects since after McCabe and Pysyk in Rochester there is only Martin. Thats a concern for the pipeline. Although I think we'll be set with Myers, Risto, Zads, Pysyk in the NHL for at least 3-5 years together, so there is time to restock on that front.
- theblueandgold

Agreed on the re-stocking,
Tossed the name around here before the top prospects game, after his performance there I can't see him falling to where we'd be picking (this including him getting consistently better).

Never seen Brandon Carlo, mocks seem to have him in the late 10's early 20's so perhaps more realistic than a provorov.

9th place is too far away to be a factor
- Slump Buster

I disagree, but only time will tell. Sorry, I need to dream about the future, cause that is all we can think about now for Buffalo.

I saw a rumor that the Sabres would trade Stewart for G Reinhart on the Island. Seems excellent for the Sabres, that is why it won't happen.

As the Sabres holding their first and second rounders this year, I don't want to "help" them too much to move those picks value down, but I would do that and then sling Myers for as much as possible and move on. We would have a stud team for 10 years! (in a few years)

Meszaros averaged around 5 goals a season for his career
Benoit scored 10 goals in his last 112 games before joining the sabres
Gorges is good for 2 a year
- homiedclown

Playing with offensive players such as Alfredsson, Spezza, Heatley, Stamkos, St Louis, Lecavalier, Giroux, Carter, Richards, JVR

Agree that Benoit looked extremely competent in COL last year. But again, Mackinnon, Landeskog, Duchene, ROR, Stastny

3 of those 4 were already written off long before Murray showed up. And like you said, they're 3rd round picks, what is the success rate of 3rd rounders anyways? It's not like 29 other teams are just constantly churning out nhl players from 3rd round picks.
- Sabresfan-365

detroit has no problems doing it

Gardiner better than Myers?

Bogosian=Pietrangelo?
- Sabresfan-365

I disagree, but only time will tell. Sorry, I need to dream about the future, cause that is all we can think about now for Buffalo.

I saw a rumor that the Sabres would trade Stewart for G Reinhart on the Island. Seems excellent for the Sabres, that is why it won't happen.

As the Sabres holding their first and second rounders this year, I don't want to "help" them too much to move those picks value down, but I would do that and then sling Myers for as much as possible and move on. We would have a stud team for 10 years! (in a few years)
- Lilroot9

There was a fantastic piece written last year (I think) about how the top 8 rarely changes after Feb 1.

Staff for Reinhart? I would think it would be Staff++++++++

2010 was not a good draft class for darcy after the first rd

and he took Sutch over Gallagher in the 5th rd
- homiedclown

As of now, 2010 and 2011 aren't that great. 2007 either.

Playing with offensive players such as Alfredsson, Spezza, Heatley, Stamkos, St Louis, Lecavalier, Giroux, Carter, Richards, JVR

Agree that Benoit looked extremely competent in COL last year. But again, Mackinnon, Landeskog, Duchene, ROR, Stastny


- theblueandgold

I expected more

esp with the coach of the hardest working team


I blame myself for thinking Nolan was an upgrade over Rolston

I expected more

esp with the coach of the hardest working team


I blame myself for thinking Nolan was an upgrade over Rolston
- homiedclown

Sad thing is, he is.

I expected more

esp with the coach of the hardest working team


I blame myself for thinking Nolan was an upgrade over Rolston
- homiedclown

I never bought into the Nolan Hype.

He is IMO better than Rolston, which is not saying much.

detroit has no problems doing it
- homiedclown

Since 2005 the following 3rd rounders have made the nhl


Joakim Andersson
Andrej Nestrasil