What's the word on Dustin Jeffrey? Appears to be having a good year in Utica and played for WD in Texas...how has he looked overall?
- LordHumungous

Career AHLer. Basically Kadri with a better attitude

Agreed. Pretty pathetic though
- Bieksa#3

Me no draft good - says every Canucks GM since Quinn. (too early to tell with Benning)

Technically, I think it's 4 - Bieksa, Hansen, Edler and Corrado. I would add Lack, Tanev, Burrows and Kenins as guys that the organization signed prior to their turning pro and developed in the system.
- 1970vintage

Didn't realize that with lack and Kenins, wow... Our organization sucks. 7 players out of 23 makeup our roster from all drafts in the last 16 years....that's basically a 7% success rate. Yet people think Gaunce, Jensen, Shink, Cassels, Subban, Virtanen, etc will all make it...when in reality we'll be lucky if 3 of our current draft picks not currently in the nhl make it.

Me no draft good - says every Canucks GM since Quinn. (too early to tell with Benning)
- 1970vintage

We will also have to see how Gillis' final draft turns out

Didn't realize that with lack and Kenins, wow... Our organization sucks. 7 players out of 23 makeup our roster from all drafts in the last 16 years....that's basically a 7% success rate. Yet people think Gaunce, Jensen, Shink, Cassels, Subban, Virtanen, etc will all make it...when in reality we'll be lucky if 3 of our current draft picks not currently in the nhl make it.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I don't think past failures influence current odds. Positive moves have been made to improve drafting and development here. I think the acquisition of our own farm team will be a boon for development and will improve things quite a bit

I don't think past failures influence current odds. Positive moves have been made to improve drafting and development here. I think the acquisition of our own farm team will be a boon for development and will improve things quite a bit
- bezz44

I wouldn't hold my breath....it's 16+ years of poopty development...I'd say Virtanen is the only can't miss. The rest of them I'll be surprised if they have 200+ nhl game careers.

Didn't realize that with lack and Kenins, wow... Our organization sucks. 7 players out of 23 makeup our roster from all drafts in the last 16 years....that's basically a 7% success rate. Yet people think Gaunce, Jensen, Shink, Cassels, Subban, Virtanen, etc will all make it...when in reality we'll be lucky if 3 of our current draft picks not currently in the nhl make it.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Of those you listed, my money would be on Virtanen to be the only one to play more than 200 games in the NHL. Shinkaruk will need to be better than a ppg player in the AHL before he contributes at the NHL level IMO. Neither he nor Jensen are bottom six type guys, so if they're not producing points, the won't stick. I could see Gaunce and/or Cassels having decent careers as 3rd/4th liners I guess.

I don't think past failures influence current odds. Positive moves have been made to improve drafting and development here. I think the acquisition of our own farm team will be a boon for development and will improve things quite a bit
- bezz44

Though it wold be nice if it was a little closer to home.

We will also have to see how Gillis' final draft turns out
- bezz44

One decent draft won't undo his pooptyness

I wouldn't hold my breath....it's 16+ years of poopty development...I'd say Virtanen is the only can't miss. The rest of them I'll be surprised if they have 200+ nhl game careers.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I agree that too often on here we assume that a prospect is a sure thing to make the NHL but I also think that it is a bit like Schrodinger's cat. Until we open the box who is to say what the outcome will be?

Bonino Jensen and Hansen
- VANTEL

I don't know about elite but that package should fetch a decent player

One decent draft won't undo his pooptyness
- 1970vintage

Nope, but it would be a nice "sorry I (frank)ed up your team"

Nope, but it would be a nice "sorry I (frank)ed up your team"
- bezz44

I agree that too often on here we assume that a prospect is a sure thing to make the NHL but I also think that it is a bit like Schrodinger's cat. Until we open the box who is to say what the outcome will be?
- bezz44

+1

So, whose finger is Burrows going to bite tonight?

I agree that too often on here we assume that a prospect is a sure thing to make the NHL but I also think that it is a bit like Schrodinger's cat. Until we open the box who is to say what the outcome will be?
- bezz44

Well look at it this way...if 1 in 7 was to make it, that would double our historical results. Not trying to be negative, just being realistic, it's not gonna be a short turnaround but Benning has great experience and reputation in development, hopefully he can turn this ship around.

So, whose finger is Burrows going to bite tonight?
- 1970vintage

Who ever sticks their finger in his mouth. Ask Bergeron

Team doesn't look bad future wise.

Our de is young and decent Eddie Tanev corrado clendening. We can obviously add to that Boychuck would be perfect

Virtanen McCann ?
Kane Horvat Shinkaruk
Sedin sedin jensen

Yup go get kane

If horvat and mccann can be 60 point 2 way forwards were looking good. Wed have a ton of cap space as well to throw around and waste on a legit Ufa sniper.

Yup allrrady drinking

Well look at it this way...if 1 in 7 was to make it, that would double our historical results. Not trying to be negative, just being realistic, it's not gonna be a short turnaround but Benning has great experience and reputation in development, hopefully he can turn this ship around.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Meh, I just think it doesn't make sense to assume that a player will not make it. If that was the case, it wouldn't make sense to invest so much time/money from the organization into drafting/development. Teams would just pick whoever Bob McKenzie had them picking and then call it a day
Edit: failure in the last few years has to factor in things like traded draft picks/prospects, and the difficulty players would have cracking the lineup of a contender
EditX2: btw I am not really arguing with any of your premises, just that it is not necessarily realistic to be pessimistic. Realistic IMO is to have no concrete expectations one way or the other

Team doesn't look bad future wise.

Our de is young and decent Eddie Tanev corrado clendening. We can obviously add to that Boychuck would be perfect

Virtanen McCann ?
Kane Horvat Shinkaruk
Sedin sedin jensen

Yup go get kane

If horvat and mccann can be 60 point 2 way forwards were looking good. Wed have a ton of cap space as well to throw around and waste on a legit Ufa sniper.

Yup allrrady drinking
- The_Kuze

Just wondering how or why McCann is ahead of Horvat.

I hit my jazz ciarette early today. Spaghetti's next

Meh, I just think it doesn't make sense to assume that a player will not make it. If that was the case, it wouldn't make sense to invest so much time/money from the organization into drafting/development. Teams would just pick whoever Bob McKenzie had them picking and then call it a day
Edit: failure in the last few years has to factor in things like traded draft picks/prospects, and the difficulty players would have cracking the lineup of a contender
EditX2: btw I am not really arguing with any of your premises, just that it is not necessarily realistic to be pessimistic. Realistic IMO is to have no concrete expectations one way or the other
- bezz44

You must be in management or own a business lol. No right or wrong answers only opinions and solutions lol

Meh, I just think it doesn't make sense to assume that a player will not make it. If that was the case, it wouldn't make sense to invest so much time/money from the organization into drafting/development. Teams would just pick whoever Bob McKenzie had them picking and then call it a day
Edit: failure in the last few years has to factor in things like traded draft picks/prospects, and the difficulty players would have cracking the lineup of a contender
EditX2: btw I am not really arguing with any of your premises, just that it is not necessarily realistic to be pessimistic. Realistic IMO is to have no concrete expectations one way or the other
- bezz44

I would prefer if van stockpiled prospects for 2 or 3 more drafts rather then move some for marginal players like kane

Just wondering how or why McCann is ahead of Horvat.
- Bieksa#3

He will be better

Also I told you guys drinking allready lol

I would prefer if van stockpiled prospects for 2 or 3 more drafts rather then move some for marginal players like kane
- Bieksa#3

Then you're in the same camp as me