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golfingsince
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Feb 8 @ 2:54 PM ET
Well a penguins second at least, but like i said id be happy with 3rd round
And really shink and jensen would be more entertaining by far

- phyllee


I'm sure there would be growing pains. I think they both need to get a bit stronger, but Jensen seems more ready. I have a feeling he's going to be a frustrating player though, like Kassian but to a lesser extent.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 8 @ 2:54 PM ET
Correct me if im wrong but if i remember right when benning got the job he said something along the lines of giving the vets the tools they need to win now and if they failed he was going to completely change the team?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 2:54 PM ET
Maybe we'll get lucky and have a few more kids make the show next year. The window with the twins is closing fast. I hope he pans out as a #1C, just am not banking on it.

What about a top D ?

- golfingsince

Window? There are no windows anymore my friend, just try to be competitive for future generations.

Benning certainly needs to focus on a top two offensive dman with his drafting.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 2:55 PM ET
Football is a different animal. If they were going to ship out the Sedins, they should have done it before the extension.

Then we'd be the Oilers. I'll assume I don't have to elaborate ?

- golfingsince

Calgary did ok without Kipper or Iggy. Oilers are an extreme. Fla seem to be coming along fine.

TO kept their leadership ,look at that crapshoot. Every team is different
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 8 @ 2:55 PM ET
Understood . But the theory of when a player should be moved remains the same. The result of moving that player changes league to league
- VANTEL

but as an example, the sedins are impossible to move. 15m in contract is impossible.

that leaves aside the argument whether they should even be moved. however, as i stated before, they are perfect as secondary scorers and as gofingsince stated, you need that vet leadership in a re-building/young team.

that leaves aside the specific trade proposals.
golfingsince
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Feb 8 @ 2:56 PM ET
Window? There are no windows anymore my friend, just try to be competitive for future generations.

Benning certainly needs to focus on a top two offensive dman with his drafting.

- LeftCoaster


There's always a window, we just need another scoring line.

I mean they will only be effective 2nd liners for awhile longer.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 8 @ 2:58 PM ET
There's always a window, we just need another scoring line.

I mean they will only be effective 2nd liners for awhile longer.

- golfingsince


Alot of people will probably disagree but i think vey is going to develop into a good player, he was getting it done with the sedins on the pp, so i dont see why they took him off so someone can stand infront of the net, instead hes on a line with higgins,
golfingsince
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Feb 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
Calgary did ok without Kipper or Iggy. Oilers are an extreme. Fla seem to be coming along fine.

TO kept their leadership ,look at that crapshoot. Every team is different

- VANTEL


FLA has been rebuilding since they traded for Lu the first time. TO didn't keep their leadership, they traded for it.

As for Calgary, they are the exception to the rule and even then they had to bring in leadership.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
Maybe we'll get lucky and have a few more kids make the show next year. The window with the twins is closing fast. I hope he pans out as a #1C, just am not banking on it.

What about a top D ?

- golfingsince

the canucks great white whale. can a 1d be traded for? highly unlikely.

you either get lucky with a draft pick or you need a top 5 pick.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
but as an example, the sedins are impossible to move. 15m in contract is impossible.

that leaves aside the argument whether they should even be moved. however, as i stated before, they are perfect as secondary scorers and as gofingsince stated, you need that vet leadership in a re-building/young team.

that leaves aside the specific trade proposals.

- RealityChecker

I have agreed to that and have not made a Sedin proposal in some time unless it was a joke
golfingsince
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Feb 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
Alot of people will probably disagree but i think vey is going to develop into a good player, he was getting it done with the sedins on the pp, so i dont see why they took him off so someone can stand infront of the net, instead hes on a line with higgins,
- phyllee


I personally think Vey will be more effective as a winger. I could be wrong however.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
once again, i agree with your sentiments.

the issue is that the two forces work against each other. the better the team is now, the longer the re-build will take.

if the team could have one more elite talent (top 5) in the draft, they could potentially take the pressure of the sedins next season. but as it's going right now, the sedins are being ground down with no offensive support.

- RealityChecker

Agreed - they have to weigh the odds as to what is best for this group, because it's not a uniform thing, there are many ways to accomplish putting together a good team

Drafting in the top three to five position is almost a sure-fire must though. You've gotta have those players to be successful, although teams like Boston and Anaheim have won without that.
golfingsince
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Feb 8 @ 3:01 PM ET
the canucks great white whale. can a 1d be traded for? highly unlikely.

you either get lucky with a draft pick or you need a top 5 pick.

- RealityChecker


Or a deep draft such as this year. I agree with you though, drafting 16th hurts those chances.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
I personally think Vey will be more effective as a winger. I could be wrong however.
- golfingsince

Id agree, but not a winger with higgins, think its a give away nobody likes that, example: Kesler saying he didnt have good linemates, a Richard yes, but it was always higgins and hansen
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Feb 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
Ugh, I wasn't sure whether to post anything about this... but I did want to clarify a few things:
1. We don't have cannabis-cells in our body that are fed by THC to improve our health. THC triggers the release of a neurotransmitter in the brain that makes us feel awesome.
2. Doctors won't (or shouldn't) withhold referrals because they don't make money on them. That is against the hippocratic oath, and several actual laws I believe. If you feel that your doctor doesn't have your best interests at heart, find a new doctor and report the old one to the Canadian Medical Association/provincial association.
3. If something makes you feel better, then do it. But the alleviation of symptoms does not always = a cure.
4. THC doesn't cure cancer, and neither does accupuncture. They may help with the symptoms.
5. Don't be so quick to hate on traditional Chinese medicines. They often get a bad rap because we don't know exactly what they are doing and whether they are treating the symptoms or treating the disease. There is a lot of scientific research going on into how these treatments actually work.
6. How 'bout the game last night? (frank) you Sindy.

Later female doges

- nucks_94

Good post
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 3:03 PM ET
There's always a window, we just need another scoring line.

I mean they will only be effective 2nd liners for awhile longer.

- golfingsince

Do to poor drafting and very very few prospects worth mentioning it's just an unrealistic senerio, they have no way to acquire that scoring without sending the team back to the abyss they once were...I don't think that's Bennings plan.
golfingsince
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Feb 8 @ 3:04 PM ET
Id agree, but not a winger with higgins, think its a give away nobody likes that, example: Kesler saying he didnt have good linemates, a Richard yes, but it was always higgins and hansen
- phyllee


He should be playing with a C that can shoot the puck.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 8 @ 3:05 PM ET
Or a deep draft such as this year. I agree with you though, drafting 16th hurts those chances.
- golfingsince

Benning NEEDS to draft well in this draft if it's truly as deep as they say!!
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 8 @ 3:05 PM ET
Glad to see the tone in here has gotten a little friendlier since I popped in before starting the blog.

Great win last night, it's a long weekend, and the weather out there is pretty darn decent.

Here's today's blog:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...-From-Last-Year/194/66225
golfingsince
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Feb 8 @ 3:05 PM ET
Do to poor drafting and very very few prospects worth mentioning it's just an unrealistic senecio, they have no way to acquire that scoring without sending the team back to the abyss they once were...I don't think that's Bennings plan.
- LeftCoaster


I'm not disputing that it's unrealistic. Then again, who saw the NJD making the finals a few seasons ago ?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 8 @ 3:05 PM ET
Alot of people will probably disagree but i think vey is going to develop into a good player, he was getting it done with the sedins on the pp, so i dont see why they took him off so someone can stand infront of the net, instead hes on a line with higgins,
- phyllee

what is benning thinking about the 2nd, 3rd and 4th line next year? i know, i'm jumping ahead a bit but bear with me.

the sedins still seem to be the #1 line, if only by default.

what do you do with vey and bonino? they don't seem suited for bottom 6 so how do they fit in long term? i'm not saying that the team needs to make a decision right away but what is the vision long term?

is horvat going to be given the 2nd line? the 3rd line? who slots into the 4th?

i would like them to retain dorsett, mathias and richardson. but if they keep all 3, are their slots for a rookie(s)?

it all comes down to the 2nd line. which way would you go?

my worst fear is that next year becomes the tank year (and not on purpose). that would be tragic if it was one year too late.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Feb 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
I'm sure there would be growing pains. I think they both need to get a bit stronger, but Jensen seems more ready. I have a feeling he's going to be a frustrating player though, like Kassian but to a lesser extent.
- golfingsince

I think we should expect that he will be very streaky. From what I've seen of him though, he is more committed to playing defense. IMO he will be kind of like Higgins. Nice shot, puts in effort every shift, but hopefully a better offensive player
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 8 @ 3:09 PM ET
Alot of people will probably disagree but i think vey is going to develop into a good player, he was getting it done with the sedins on the pp, so i dont see why they took him off so someone can stand infront of the net, instead hes on a line with higgins,
- phyllee


Vey is going to be just fine given the right opportunities and linemates.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 8 @ 3:10 PM ET
what is benning thinking about the 2nd, 3rd and 4th line next year? i know, i'm jumping ahead a bit but bear with me.

the sedins still seem to be the #1 line, if only by default.

what do you do with vey and bonino? they don't seem suited for bottom 6 so how do they fit in long term? i'm not saying that the team needs to make a decision right away but what is the vision long term?

is horvat going to be given the 2nd line? the 3rd line? who slots into the 4th?

i would like them to retain dorsett, mathias and richardson. but if they keep all 3, are their slots for a rookie(s)?

it all comes down to the 2nd line. which way would you go?

my worst fear is that next year becomes the tank year (and not on purpose). that would be tragic if it was one year too late.

- RealityChecker


Actually nobody talks much about it but Bonino might be the guy we should be trading that would bring the best return.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 8 @ 3:13 PM ET
Wally Buono has a routine of shipping out players when they are past or close to past due dates , including Vancouver favourite Giroy Simon. That move bit him in the ass but many others have brought him success.

I feel when a player is on the downslope they should be moved. Right or wrong I have no obligation to the name on the back of the Jersey.

- VANTEL


It would probably be best if the Sedins just retired early. No way are they going waive to be traded to a cellar dweller or is a contender going to have the cap space to bring them on board for one last run at the cup.
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