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I still think we should keep Stewart - SABRES 89
Yes !!! Move Staff. |
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SABRES 89
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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It's a shame too . he can play the game but as of now ? We are not seeing it. - cabin
2 time cup winner Mike Richards is playing in the AHL, what do they think Hodgson is worth, not much. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Yes !!! Move Staff. - cabin
For plane fare |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Yes !!! Move Staff. - cabin
Hopefully they move both. |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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For plane fare - SABRES 89
Bus fare pretty cheap to Toronto. |
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Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Hopefully they move both. - buffalofan19
If Stew gets moved , Hope he comes back similar to moulson. Just a thought.
We are still a few years away from all the prospects being on the team. |
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Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 07.05.2011
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buy his sorry ass out - SABRES 89
Terrible idea. Hodgson needs to stay for now. look at who he plays with on most nights it's scary. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Terrible idea. Hodgson needs to stay for now. look at who he plays with on most nights it's scary. - Cheeseballin
He's aF$$KIN bum Hodgson, get his lazy ass out of here and his horrible contract. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Hopefully they move both. - buffalofan19
no need to move Stewart for another pick we don't need. |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Terrible idea. Hodgson needs to stay for now. look at who he plays with on most nights it's scary. - Cheeseballin
Good players will put up points no matter what line they are on. He has had many chances at more time too put up points. Vanek only averages 10-15 min a game. |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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no need to move Stewart for another pick we don't need. - SABRES 89
Better to have a pick you don't need than to be stuck with a regrettable contract because you were fooled by the age old "step it up in a contract year" routine. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Better to have a pick you don't need than to be stuck with a regrettable contract because you were fooled by the age old "step it up in a contract year" routine. - buffalofan19
Says you |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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He's aF$$KIN bum Hodgson, get his lazy ass out of here and his horrible contract. - SABRES 89
Seems like he is pissed from being moved from the stardome since Girgs has arrived. Can't have selfish players on a team unless your Danny Gare. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Seems like he is pissed from being moved from the stardome since Girgs has arrived. - cabin
He's a baby, we don't need that dead weight and bad contract. Let another team deal with that crap, we want another pick for a player, there's your pick. |
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knarf55
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Location: LS Joined: 07.26.2006
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long post warning:
I am a sabres fan and I like to think I fairly level headed when it comes to getting to high or low on players in the organization. As far as Myers is concerned I'll throw my 2 cents in: I do like Myers as a player but I think he is somewhere between where fans and haters are. I think on a good team he is a high end second pairing defensemen, on a poor team he is an average to above average 1st pairing d-man. On a team like Anaheim, Chicago, LA he would be an ideal 2nd pairing that can step and give you solid minutes, play pk and 2nd pp. If you have injuries he can also move up in the lineup. The flexibility he offers is a selling point for those teams. I think he is miscast on Buffalo and as fans we set the bar so high with his size and winning the calder that it will be impossible to ever come close to what as fans we wish he was. That doesn't mean that he also has no value to other teams. Now a lot of these teams think that Myers can be something more than he is now which is why I think that Buffalo should trade him. I don't think at this point in his career his value will be any higher (it actually helps that hes on he worst team in the NHL bc all these good teams think that with a better surrounding cast he will raise his level of play and be a Norris winning D-man). Last year I remember Steve Ott being on a morning show and saying he did not feel he knew himself as a player and felt comfortable in the NHL until he played 250 games. After that he became comfortable in his role and trusted his skills to carry him in the league. As of now Myers is at 363 games and to me Myers is as good as he will ever be. As I stated above he is an above average 2nd pairing d-man. As for the "he might be a late bloomer argument" I looked back to the last late bloomer that the Buffalo had (that I could recall of significance) which was Brian Campbell. Campbell did not become a NHL regular until he was 25-26 in the 05-06 season, until that point he was back and forth to the minors but had only played 167 NHL games prior to that season. During that season he played 79 games (which adds to 246 NHL games, supporting the 250 games theory) until that point he had 21 career goals, 32 assists, -34 +/-. Now this season Myers turns 25 and has long surpassed the 250(363 games for Myers) game threshold, his current career stats 44g 106a -32 +/-. So my point is that if we were going to see a jump in Myers play to an unforeseen Norris level it would have happened a hundred games ago or certainly this season by age 25. The Campbell and Myers comparison is where I think the sweet spot of his value probably is to the market. The positives are that he is under contract and teams still think he has room to grow, which would raise his value. When the Sabres traded Campbell to the Sharks he was a UFA and we got a #1(Ennis #22 overall) and Bernier (1st round pick 160 total NHL games to that point). So a return of a #1 pick, a prospect with NHL time(under 150-200 games) and younger prospect (not in NHL) can be reasonable. I am not one for throwing names in a hat and I don't know other teams prospects or players as well as other people might, i"ll leave that for all the other posters. Its of my opinion that one way or the other people over value and under value his worth on the market and if another team thinks they can get him to another level then squeeze that team for all you can and say adios. To the people saying that we have no one to replace Myers, second pairing d-men are much easier to come by and always seem to be available at the trade deadline or as UFA. C.Franson being one just this year, we also have Pysk and Mccabe which I think both are perfectly suited to Replace Myers within the next 2 years. I mean R.Scuderi has won 2 cups and has been coveted at the trade deadline twice...anyways just my 2cents sorry for the length but I wanted my fully formed hypothesis to be conveyed. |
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Cheeseballin
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 07.05.2011
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Good players will put up points no matter what line they are on. He has had many chances at more time too put up points. Vanek only averages 10-15 min a game. - cabin
He did that last year quite well actually. He led the team in scoring on a last place squad.. it would be a bad idea to buy him out at this point. |
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Says you - SABRES 89
Says me too, plus if we really want to be duped by Stewert we can be on July 1st after trading him for assets we can use. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Interesting stat #2
The best offensive player during Myers tenure here had 73 points.
Never have we had a top 15 scorer over the past 6 years
Our offense has never been better than 9th and 10th coincidentally his 2 best offensive years.
Since, it has ranked 17th, 23rd, 30th, and coming soon....30th |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Says you - SABRES 89
Aren't you the one who wants stafford gone yesterday? He's a prime example of what 19 is referring to. |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Neuvirth starting tonight.
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Says me too, plus if we really want to be duped by Stewert we can be on July 1st after trading him for assets we can use. - GilPerreault11
Why we were duped into Hodgson, i'll take Stewart any day over Hodgson. What does Hodgson bring to this team? What asset another pick ? really more picks. |
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adambuffalo
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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2 time cup winner Mike Richards is playing in the AHL, what do they think Hodgson is worth, not much. - SABRES 89
How about a trade with LA? Richards, Toffoli and someone like Andy Andrehoff for Hodgson, Stafford and Ruhwedel. LA gets rid of Richards and gets a d-man they definitely could use right now due to injuries. |
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Cheeseballin
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 07.05.2011
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Interesting stat #2
The best offensive player during Myers tenure here had 73 points.
Never have we had a top 15 scorer over the past 6 years
Our offense has never been better than 9th and 10th coincidentally his 2 best offensive years.
Since, it has ranked 17th, 23rd, 30th, and coming soon....30th - sbroads24
Dude... give it a rest. We get it. You have way too much time on your hands. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Aren't you the one who wants stafford gone yesterday? He's a prime example of what 19 is referring to. - Sabresfan-365
blame Darcy for Stafford he was duped, you can't see that Stewart fits in here? it's taken Stafford how many years here and he still sucks. |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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He did that last year quite well actually. He led the team in scoring on a last place squad.. it would be a bad idea to buy him out at this point. - Cheeseballin
Why can't he do it this year ? I think it's the fall from the "IT" guy on the team. After Pommer and Van where gone he was stated as the #1 center. He lost it to Nolans fav . Bad tude by his part if thats the real reason. |
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