But I don't like any of your trades. I would rather try to sign Stewart - and I just don't see the ducks as a good partner for MYers. - Der Kaiser
Sign Stewart? Ummm no... The guy is trying to play his way out of Buffalo. Why else would he all of a sudden pick up his play this close to deadline? He definitely doesn't want to be here.
I am a sabres fan and I like to think I fairly level headed when it comes to getting to high or low on players in the organization. As far as Myers is concerned I'll throw my 2 cents in: I do like Myers as a player but I think he is somewhere between where fans and haters are. I think on a good team he is a high end second pairing defensemen, on a poor team he is an average to above average 1st pairing d-man. On a team like Anaheim, Chicago, LA he would be an ideal 2nd pairing that can step and give you solid minutes, play pk and 2nd pp. If you have injuries he can also move up in the lineup. The flexibility he offers is a selling point for those teams. I think he is miscast on Buffalo and as fans we set the bar so high with his size and winning the calder that it will be impossible to ever come close to what as fans we wish he was. That doesn't mean that he also has no value to other teams. Now a lot of these teams think that Myers can be something more than he is now which is why I think that Buffalo should trade him. I don't think at this point in his career his value will be any higher (it actually helps that hes on he worst team in the NHL bc all these good teams think that with a better surrounding cast he will raise his level of play and be a Norris winning D-man). Last year I remember Steve Ott being on a morning show and saying he did not feel he knew himself as a player and felt comfortable in the NHL until he played 250 games. After that he became comfortable in his role and trusted his skills to carry him in the league. As of now Myers is at 363 games and to me Myers is as good as he will ever be. As I stated above he is an above average 2nd pairing d-man. As for the "he might be a late bloomer argument" I looked back to the last late bloomer that the Buffalo had (that I could recall of significance) which was Brian Campbell. Campbell did not become a NHL regular until he was 25-26 in the 05-06 season, until that point he was back and forth to the minors but had only played 167 NHL games prior to that season. During that season he played 79 games (which adds to 246 NHL games, supporting the 250 games theory) until that point he had 21 career goals, 32 assists, -34 +/-. Now this season Myers turns 25 and has long surpassed the 250(363 games for Myers) game threshold, his current career stats 44g 106a -32 +/-. So my point is that if we were going to see a jump in Myers play to an unforeseen Norris level it would have happened a hundred games ago or certainly this season by age 25. The Campbell and Myers comparison is where I think the sweet spot of his value probably is to the market. The positives are that he is under contract and teams still think he has room to grow, which would raise his value. When the Sabres traded Campbell to the Sharks he was a UFA and we got a #1(Ennis #22 overall) and Bernier (1st round pick 160 total NHL games to that point). So a return of a #1 pick, a prospect with NHL time(under 150-200 games) and younger prospect (not in NHL) can be reasonable. I am not one for throwing names in a hat and I don't know other teams prospects or players as well as other people might, i"ll leave that for all the other posters. Its of my opinion that one way or the other people over value and under value his worth on the market and if another team thinks they can get him to another level then squeeze that team for all you can and say adios. To the people saying that we have no one to replace Myers, second pairing d-men are much easier to come by and always seem to be available at the trade deadline or as UFA. C.Franson being one just this year, we also have Pysk and Mccabe which I think both are perfectly suited to Replace Myers within the next 2 years. I mean R.Scuderi has won 2 cups and has been coveted at the trade deadline twice...anyways just my 2cents sorry for the length but I wanted my fully formed hypothesis to be conveyed. - knarf55
don't get me wrong, I like Hamilton's work...there's a lot to be said for someone who's been the sabres beat reporter for a long time...just disagree on Larsson right now
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM ET
don't get me wrong, I like Hamilton's work...there's a lot to be said for someone who's been the sabres beat reporter for a long time...just disagree on Larsson right now - Michael Pachla
I love what I see from him in Rochester, but I really don't like what I've seen from him here. During one of his stint here to took a bunch of lazy penalties and looked disinterested, IMO.
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM ET
And Harrington.
Our centers are Girgensons, Mitchell, Foligno, and Ellis.
Post trade deadline should be Girgensons, Grigorenko, Larsson, and whoever on the fourth line. - PassionBucket16
He had something on twitter about a week ago that asked why Edmonton didn't take Seth Jones instead of Yakupov. His opinion on anything means absolutely nothing to me.
He had something on twitter about a week ago that asked why Edmonton didn't take Seth Jones instead of Yakupov. His opinion on anything means absolutely nothing to me. - HonkFortheGoose
Wow he doesn't know that Jones and Yaks were in two completely different drafts? Lol
I love what I see from him in Rochester, but I really don't like what I've seen from him here. During one of his stint here to took a bunch of lazy penalties and looked disinterested, IMO. - HonkFortheGoose
yup...won't disagree...in his defense, and this is from what I've gathered, it takes him time to adapt to the next level...for instance year one in the ahl, 16 goals in 69 games for Houston and Rochester...year two, 15 goals in 51 games...this year 13 goals in 39 games...in looking at his numbers overseas, it's the same pattern...i'll agree though, he hasn't been able to break through the nhl thresholdyet
