Amazing draft, it's always funny when people try to compare future draft classes to it. The odds of a draft being that strong aren't very high so there's virtually no chance you'd get two lumped together within 10-15 years.
- Nucker101

I mean he probably has the most value of any of our tradeable roster players outside of Tanev. I'd part with Tanev too if the return was right.
- golfingsince

Tanev should be apart of this re-tool, rebuild or whatever. He has way more value to this team than he would in a trade IMO.

I'd be open to moving Bonino for sure if the return was right, but his contract is great value so the return would have to be really good for me(and hopefully Benning) to do it.

i don't know if it will ever be in the cards.

i think ownership likes their profits. shocking news, i know.

this city is not a hockey city. it is a winning city (much like most others).

the canucks have been as good (or better) than most people expected but the drop off in fan excitement and sales is pretty significant.

after seeing their bottom line this year (especially with the low canadian dollar), how big an appetite do you see the aquillini's having for losing next year?
- RealityChecker

The only reason the Canucks were successful in the first place is because of several top picks, Linden at 2nd overall, Daniel at 2nd overall and Henrik at 3rd overall. I think Trevor is aware of this...I'd assume anyways??

There's two ways to go about it, trade away either vets or youth for now, which is rare in today's NHL. Or, draft and develop some quality picks. I'm saying we need to finish last, a few more picks like Horvat and Virtanen will make the team successful imo.

I mean he probably has the most value of any of our tradeable roster players outside of Tanev. I'd part with Tanev too if the return was right.
- golfingsince

A guy like Tanev is hard to find, they were so lucky to sign him let alone find him. Chicago drafted and developed players like Keith and Seabrook years before the got Toews and Kane...defencemen take longer.

I'd keep him.

The Sedins as leaders cuts both ways. Their approach to the game- commitment to training is always mentioned. But sometimes I think the team, to it's detriment, tries to copy their style of play- too much cycle and not enough urgency.

Maybe I am wrong and it is just the team getting old over all and not competing how they used to.
- hillbillydeluxe

i hear ya. i just think if you draft enough quality, they will play their own way, rather than emulate someone else.

i get what you're saying but i think the good outweighs the bad. just that you need a team identity without having to force it on players before they are ready. by replacing the team identity, you need to have a strong core coming back. who's team is it? you can't thrust it on to horvat or a youngster. that's detrimental to their development.

and to get a new team identity/core through trades or ufa's is unwise imo. it just leads to instability in the organization. not a good environment to develop talent (or as good i should say compared to stable vets who have gone through the criticism etc.).

The only reason the Canucks were successful in the first place is because of several top picks, Linden at 2nd overall, Daniel at 2nd overall and Henrik at 3rd overall. I think Trevor is aware of this...I'd assume anyways??

There's two ways to go about it, trade away either vets or youth for now, which is rare in today's NHL. Or, draft and develop some quality picks. I'm saying we need to finish last, a few more picks like Horvat and Virtanen will make the team successful imo.
- LeftCoaster

It's extremely difficult to build a contender without top 5 picks, but yeah it can definitely be done(ANA/DET have built a core without them). Top 10-15 picks can work as well, but the Canucks need to stop trying to draft role players late, bottom 6 junior players are just bad picks according to logic and simple math.

It's extremely difficult to build a contender without top 5 picks, but yeah it can definitely be done(ANA/DET have built a core without them). Top 10-15 picks can work as well, but the Canucks need to stop trying to draft role players late, bottom 6 junior players are just bad picks according to logic and simple math.
- Nucker101

this.

this draft should be deep so hopefully it turns into a 2003 draft situation.

if anyone doesn't know how crazy that one was:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html
- RealityChecker

I will take...
Pavelski in the 7th round
Big Buff in the 8th
and Halak in the 9th...

A guy like Tanev is hard to find, they were so lucky to sign him let alone find him. Chicago drafted and developed players like Keith and Seabrook years before the got Toews and Kane...defencemen take longer.

I'd keep him.
- LeftCoaster

I sort of like our D

We have a bunch of young players that will all develop around the same time , and our prospects will have time to find their game.

We have had half sidelined by injury and have held the Fort except maybe ANA game

Amazing draft, it's always funny when people try to compare future draft classes to it. The odds of a draft being that strong aren't very high so there's virtually no chance you'd get two lumped together within 10-15 years.
- Nucker101

Probably the other 2 best drafts were 1979 and 1988.

It's extremely difficult to build a contender without top 5 picks, but yeah it can definitely be done(ANA/DET have built a core without them). Top 10-15 picks can work as well, but the Canucks need to stop trying to draft role players late, bottom 6 junior players are just bad picks according to logic and simple math.
- Nucker101

Those top picks have gotta be right and you have to get lucky with a few late picks but ya I agree top ten (especially top five) picks are an almost must.

this draft should be deep so hopefully it turns into a 2003 draft situation.

if anyone doesn't know how crazy that one was:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html
- RealityChecker

I still think in a couple years time people will be saying the same about the 2010 draft

Tanev should be apart of this re-tool, rebuild or whatever. He has way more value to this team than he would in a trade IMO.

I'd be open to moving Bonino for sure if the return was right, but his contract is great value so the return would have to be really good for me(and hopefully Benning) to do it.
- Nucker101

Well you only move either of those players if the return is right. That said, if you want extra picks in a big draft and another good prospect you have to part with the young guys with good contracts or in good contractual situations.

It's extremely difficult to build a contender without top 5 picks, but yeah it can definitely be done(ANA/DET have built a core without them). Top 10-15 picks can work as well, but the Canucks need to stop trying to draft role players late, bottom 6 junior players are just bad picks according to logic and simple math.
- Nucker101

You need a bit of luck I think in finding a 1C, 1D if you aren't picking top 5

Those top picks have gotta be right and you have to get lucky with a few late picks but ya I agree top ten (especially top five) picks are an almost must.
- LeftCoaster

I think JV has to be a must. Six is close enough for me to five

I know . It was the perfect year to tank though. New Mgmt, new goalie, continuation of last year's decline , new system and coach, all the excuses were in a row
- VANTEL

I was of the mind to roll with lack and markstrom and even not take a run at a guy like vrbata and REALLY tank, but in retrospect that probably stunts Horvats growth significantly and puts markstrom in the same situation he was in in florida, struggling on a shiddy team. maybe he doesnt end up making the progressions he has made.

then again, maybe Im just rambling... I had a marwood breakfast.

I know . It was the perfect year to tank though. New Mgmt, new goalie, continuation of last year's decline , new system and coach, all the excuses were in a row
- VANTEL

Quality character and leadership in a locker room will never let that happen. We can say all we want about effort on some nights but these guys are competitors.

i hear ya. i just think if you draft enough quality, they will play their own way, rather than emulate someone else.

i get what you're saying but i think the good outweighs the bad. just that you need a team identity without having to force it on players before they are ready. by replacing the team identity, you need to have a strong core coming back. who's team is it? you can't thrust it on to horvat or a youngster. that's detrimental to their development.

and to get a new team identity/core through trades or ufa's is unwise imo. it just leads to instability in the organization. not a good environment to develop talent (or as good i should say compared to stable vets who have gone through the criticism etc.).
- RealityChecker

On the cbc panel last night they were mentioning how valuable Dorsett was to have paired up with Horvat. Dorsett coming off the Rangers run to the finals last season having a positive influence on Horvat and his development. At first, I thought what about the Sedins and the core of Canucks remaining from that run? But I think Dorsett's hard nosed style of play is great for Horvat and the rest of the team.

On the cbc panel last night they were mentioning how valuable Dorsett was to have paired up with Horvat. Dorsett coming off the Rangers run to the finals last season having a positive influence on Horvat and his development. At first, I thought what about the Sedins and the core of Canucks remaining from that run? But I think Dorsett's hard nosed style of play is great for Horvat and the rest of the team.


- hillbillydeluxe

I honestly wish we had a few more Dorsetts. I have yet to see him take a shift off.he bangs ,defends, fights , scores passes and back checks. Don't be too surprised if he gets a new contract here if he becomes a second liner much like Burrows /Kessler did once they found their game

I honestly wish we had a few more Dorsetts. I have yet to see him take a shift off.he bangs ,defends, fights , scores passes and back checks. Don't be too surprised if he gets a new contract here if he becomes a second liner much like Burrows /Kessler did once they found their game
- VANTEL

I think it was Dorsett and Hank on the 2 on 1 and Dorsett waited then shot/deflected out of play... just seemed like an odd pairing, not sure if Hank was expecting the pass, but was glad Dorsett tried to shoot... just different players with different tool boxes. And a team needs both to be successful.

I think JV has to be a must. Six is close enough for me to five
- VANTEL

Yes I really hope he's a winner!!

I honestly wish we had a few more Dorsetts. I have yet to see him take a shift off.he bangs ,defends, fights , scores passes and back checks. Don't be too surprised if he gets a new contract here if he becomes a second liner much like Burrows /Kessler did once they found their game
- VANTEL

If Kassian could find an ounce of Dorsett within him them he'd be onto something!!

If Kassian could find an ounce of Dorsett within him them he'd be onto something!!
- LeftCoaster

Yeah , not sure that will happen

If Kassian could find an ounce of Dorsett within him them he'd be onto something!!
- LeftCoaster

Id be kinda pissed if canucks did trade him, I like kassian, and hes young, hes not putting up numbers like he wants to but id rather have him on a wing then hansen/higgins, why get rid of him for nothing when theres a chance he developes, plus low numbers til then means cheap contract

If Kassian could find an ounce of Dorsett within him them he'd be onto something!!
- LeftCoaster

Too much team bonding if we hear about this happening...