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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 7:47 PM ET
At least they still won
- aflyerpower8


Yeah -- nice shot by Hemsky
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 8 @ 7:48 PM ET
Kimmo return date?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 7:48 PM ET
Not buying the "unrelated to previous injury" angle Hexy is selling. They need to be prudent with Mason.
- Jsaquella


He looked completely fine for the past two weeks and then suddenly could barely stand up. I don't want to hear that it was from over use since he only played five games in 13 days. It's just very unfortunate.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 7:49 PM ET
Kimmo return date?
- Winning


Don't really know...who sits, do you think, if they don't make a move?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 7:49 PM ET
Kimmo return date?
- Winning


TBD
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 8 @ 7:50 PM ET
Don't really know...who sits, do you think, if they don't make a move?
- AllInForFlyers

I think Kimmo/Coburn make MacDonald look bettr
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 7:52 PM ET
I think Kimmo/Coburn make MacDonald look bettr
- Winning


Agreed -- I wish the Little Finn well and I know the Flyers aren't making the playoffs, but I won't even lie: If the last thing he does in the NHL is help Coburn get his poop together, I would take that happily
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 8 @ 7:58 PM ET
Nice to see the coach FINALLY cut RJ Hamburglar's minutes. He only had 9 minutes of ice time. The 4th line had definitely outplayed 24 14 Zombie
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM ET
He looked completely fine for the past two weeks and then suddenly could barely stand up. I don't want to hear that it was from over use since he only played five games in 13 days. It's just very unfortunate.
- Feanor


It was a good snipe from the stands. Tough one to swallow
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM ET
Not buying the "unrelated to previous injury" angle Hexy is selling. They need to be prudent with Mason.
- Jsaquella

makes 2 of us, bud
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
He looked completely fine for the past two weeks and then suddenly could barely stand up. I don't want to hear that it was from over use since he only played five games in 13 days. It's just very unfortunate.
- Feanor



Please don't apply logic.
This was just another example of the inept Flyers medical staff rushing Mason back.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM ET
He looked completely fine for the past two weeks and then suddenly could barely stand up. I don't want to hear that it was from over use since he only played five games in 13 days. It's just very unfortunate.
- Feanor


Please don't apply logic.
This was just another example of the inept Flyers medical staff rushing Mason back.

- opeth_pa

It's like people don't know what injuries are. Lordy.

You don't need to be "overused" to reaggravate an injury. Nor does every reaggravation occur after being "rushed back". Nor do you need to reaggrevate the same injury as a result of another one.

Injuries WEAKEN YOUR BODY and cause you to compensate.

Remember when Mase tweaked his back? He probably walked funny for a few days after that. If he did, he may have a sore hip or shoulder depending on what his posture was like.

Remember when Mase hurt his knee? He probably walked funny for a few days after that, too. If he did, he may have a sore hip, hamstring, groin, or calf.

Mase is a professional goalie who certainly puts intense strain on his back, hip, and leg muscles on a daily basis.

It is CERTAINLY POSSIBLE that what's ailing Mason now is completely different from his last 2 bouts with the injury bug. It's also possible that- even though he felt ok and looked ok- he wasn't 100%. Even being 90% with something like a knee for a goalie can put you behind the 8-ball- you could reinjure something, or you could injure something new which was weakened while compensating.

I don't know what happened. No one knows what happened. So as a board, let's not split into parties and go down 2 days worth of arguing about Mason's use or the quality of the medical staff.

Mase thought he was fine. The doctors who have degrees in the field thought he was fine. He looked and felt fine. Then he got injured. It's unfortunate, and I think he should be shut down so he can get back to 100% so all of this doesn't snowball if it isn't already.

Back to statins.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM ET

Mase thought he was fine. The doctors who have degrees in the field thought he was fine. He looked and felt fine. Then he got injured. It's unfortunate, and I think he should be shut down so he can get back to 100% so all of this doesn't snowball if it isn't already.

- Giroux_Is_God


Well said!
Now Im heading back to studying for another Cisco exam .
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM ET
Sportsnets Chris Johnston saying flyers are in the hunt for E Kane
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
Sportsnets Chris Johnston saying flyers are in the hunt for E Kane
- arichardson22

ClutchFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Warminster, PA
Joined: 04.08.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
Please don't apply logic.
This was just another example of the inept Flyers medical staff rushing Mason back.

- opeth_pa


Stolarz needs to go back to Phantoms ASAP. It will stunt his development sitting on the bench night in, night out. If Zepp and Mason are out long term, then we need to sign a veteran FA.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
Sportsnets Chris Johnston saying flyers are in the hunt for E Kane
- arichardson22


I don't even know how you get that done -- not just the $6 million hit, but the cost in assets

Chevaldayoff is gonna want to sell high, and it doesn't matter what we think of Kane's production. Someone is gonna pay
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
Kimmo return date?
- Winning


Feb 21.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
I don't even know how you get that done -- not just the $6 million hit, but the cost in assets

Chevaldayoff is gonna want to sell high, and it doesn't matter what we think of Kane's production. Someone is gonna pay

- AllInForFlyers


His hit is $5.25mm, salary is $6mm.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
He looked completely fine for the past two weeks and then suddenly could barely stand up. I don't want to hear that it was from over use since he only played five games in 13 days. It's just very unfortunate.
- Feanor


He's been receiving regular treatment on the knee since the initial injury, It's entirely possible he's been playing through pain or re-aggravated it.

http://www.philly.com/phi...out_win_over_Coyotes.html

Instead, after addressing the media, Mason limped down the hallway toward the showers with a huge ice bag wrapped around his right knee. It was the same knee that he alluded earlier “desperate measures” — surgery, perhaps? — were pondered about while he was out.

“I think the organization did everything they could to make sure that long-term, they did what’s best for me,” Mason said.

But when pressed for more details on his vague answers, Mason froze.

“Talk to [general manager Ron Hextall] or [trainer] Jimmy McCrossin," Mason said. “I don’t want to comment more than that.”


That was after coming in cold against Arizona. Sure seems as if he returned at less than 100%
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 8 @ 9:23 PM ET
I don't even know how you get that done -- not just the $6 million hit, but the cost in assets

Chevaldayoff is gonna want to sell high, and it doesn't matter what we think of Kane's production. Someone is gonna pay

- AllInForFlyers


I think it would command something along the lines of Coburn, B Schenn, Read, 1st maybe a 2nd + prospect instead of the 1st
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:23 PM ET
I don't even know how you get that done -- not just the $6 million hit, but the cost in assets

Chevaldayoff is gonna want to sell high, and it doesn't matter what we think of Kane's production. Someone is gonna pay

- AllInForFlyers


I think it would command something along the lines of Coburn, B Schenn, Read, 1st maybe a 2nd + prospect instead of the 1st
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 9:25 PM ET
I think it would command something along the lines of Coburn, B Schenn, Read, 1st maybe a 2nd + prospect instead of the 1st
- arichardson22


Then I walk away
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:25 PM ET
Perhaps jets add something else bc that's a lot from our end
3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:25 PM ET
I think it would command something along the lines of Coburn, B Schenn, Read, 1st maybe a 2nd + prospect instead of the 1st
- arichardson22

All that for Kane? No thanks.. Maybe if Bogo was included
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