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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:25 PM ET
I don't even know how you get that done -- not just the $6 million hit, but the cost in assets

Chevaldayoff is gonna want to sell high, and it doesn't matter what we think of Kane's production. Someone is gonna pay

- AllInForFlyers

I've been very against it. If it did happen realistically I would need the deal to be centered around the Schenns and prosect no higher than Hagg or pick higher than a future 2nd.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:26 PM ET
All that for Kane? No thanks.. Maybe if Bogo was included
- 3flyerkids


Well that trade I put was originally put for Kane and Buff on other thread
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:28 PM ET
I think it would command something along the lines of Coburn, B Schenn, Read, 1st maybe a 2nd + prospect instead of the 1st
- arichardson22


Is this for Lindros?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 8 @ 9:31 PM ET
I think it would command something along the lines of Coburn, B Schenn, Read, 1st maybe a 2nd + prospect instead of the 1st
- arichardson22







See ya.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:32 PM ET
Well that trade I put was originally put for Kane and Buff on other thread
- arichardson22

Well you know those 2 won't be joining the same team now.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 8 @ 9:33 PM ET
I have no expectations to beat Montreal but regardless of who is in net beyond that game on Tuesday, I think we could beat the Sabers and Jackets twice in a row each.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:33 PM ET
I've been very against it. If it did happen realistically I would need the deal to be centered around the Schenns and prosect higher than Hagg or pick higher than a future 2nd.
- hereticpride


See, in reality, Schenns plus maybe a fourth should be enough, because Kane simply hasn't outproduced Baby Schenn, but for some reason, what Kane MIGHT do is valued more than what Schenn MIGHT do

I don't get it, but that's the vibe -- people really think that there's so much more to Kane, but what if there isn't?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:33 PM ET



See ya.

- MBFlyerfan



Vlasic to IR, I smell a 2nd rounder coming.
maybe
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:35 PM ET
See, in reality, Schenns plus maybe a fourth should be enough, because Kane simply hasn't outproduced Baby Schenn, but for some reason, what Kane MIGHT do is valued more than what Schenn MIGHT do

I don't get it, but that's the vibe -- people really think that there's so much more to Kane, but what if there isn't?

- AllInForFlyers


I agree, his attitude is too risky as well.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:35 PM ET
Vlasic to IR, I smell a 2nd rounder coming.
maybe

- puckhead17


Wilson swears he's not dealing picks -- maintains that the Sharks are retooling/rebuilding
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:36 PM ET
Well you know those 2 won't be joining the same team now.
- 3flyerkids


Good point. I don't think the Jets would want to trade Buff anyway. He's a nice piece to build around back there for the next few seasons and they're a playoff team now.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:37 PM ET
Wilson swears he's not dealing picks -- maintains that the Sharks are retooling/rebuilding
- AllInForFlyers


Rebuilding with 2/35 year old forwards leading the way?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:38 PM ET
Rebuilding with 2/35 year old forwards leading the way?
- puckhead17


IKR? But if you believe what you read, Thornton just won't waive his NTC, even after being stripped of the captaincy
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:38 PM ET
I have no expectations to beat Montreal but regardless of who is in net beyond that game on Tuesday, I think we could beat the Sabers and Jackets twice in a row each.
- SuperSchennBros

Agreed. I would love for them to beat the Habs in their building, but won't be surprised if they don't.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:39 PM ET
Well you know those 2 won't be joining the same team now.
- 3flyerkids


Then Bogo as you said.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:39 PM ET
Agreed. I would love for them to beat the Habs in their building, but won't be surprised if they don't.
- TobyFlenderson


Even with no Bob, the Jackets have given the Flyers absolute fits, though
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:40 PM ET
See, in reality, Schenns plus maybe a fourth should be enough, because Kane simply hasn't outproduced Baby Schenn, but for some reason, what Kane MIGHT do is valued more than what Schenn MIGHT do

I don't get it, but that's the vibe -- people really think that there's so much more to Kane, but what if there isn't?

- AllInForFlyers

Kane doesn't even fit what this team needs. They need a playmaking/sniping 2nd line LW. For the rumored cost give me Oshie or Eberle. They'll help this team far more than Kane will.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 8 @ 9:40 PM ET
See, in reality, Schenns plus maybe a fourth should be enough, because Kane simply hasn't outproduced Baby Schenn, but for some reason, what Kane MIGHT do is valued more than what Schenn MIGHT do

I don't get it, but that's the vibe -- people really think that there's so much more to Kane, but what if there isn't?

- AllInForFlyers

I wouldn't trade Brayden Schenn plus for Evander Kane. Schenn might not be an offensive force like Giroux or a solid shut down two way like Couturier but he plays both center and wing and could fill in anywhere within the top six. This is what makes him an important player. Kane just plays the wing, costs a lot and hasn't lived up to his price tag in a while.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:40 PM ET
IKR? But if you believe what you read, Thornton just won't waive his NTC, even after being stripped of the captaincy
- AllInForFlyers


I have a feeling Peter Budaj is coming here.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:44 PM ET
I have a feeling Peter Budaj is coming here.
- puckhead17

Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM ET
Kane doesn't even fit what this team needs. They need a playmaking/sniping 2nd line LW. For the rumored cost give me Oshie or Eberle. They'll help this team far more than Kane will.
- hereticpride


Agreed -- you can fake it with Raffl on L1, but the real need is somebody to help either Couturier or Simmonds score consistently at ES, and I don't think Kane is that kind of player
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM ET
I have a feeling Peter Budaj is coming here.
- puckhead17



Anybody but Bryzgalov!
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM ET
Even with no Bob, the Jackets have given the Flyers absolute fits, though
- AllInForFlyers

No doubt about that. I hope they stay disciplined, though. I remember the PK getting torched a couple of times in the last game.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:46 PM ET
Anybody but Bryzgalov!
- 3flyerkids


Well they are still paying him, why not
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 8 @ 9:46 PM ET
Kane doesn't even fit what this team needs. They need a playmaking/sniping 2nd line LW. For the rumored cost give me Oshie or Eberle. They'll help this team far more than Kane will.
- hereticpride


I think Kane could be a really good fit. He's got size, speed and he's physical. I think he'd be a good fit on a line with Giroux and Voracek, Couturier & Simmonds or even some kind of combination of those-say with Couturier & Voracek.

I wouldn't go a ton higher than Brayden Schenn and a prospect, unless the Jets added more.

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