Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Is it that far off?
I actually think its a pretty fair trade
Myers for Bogosian is pretty much a wash
Winnipeg might not even make the playoffs, and I highly doubt they make it past the 1st round...
So it basically costs us Stafford to move up about 12 spots, maybe more (Staff is probably only worth a 2nd)
So then Armia & Lemieux for Kane
I wouldn't want to give that much up for him, but I think its fair
What's your major issue with the deal?
Only thing I can see is if u think Myers is substantially better than Bogosian - jdfitz77
I'm not too big on giving up both Armia and Lemieux for Kane
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Pierceme69
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 02.13.2007
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yep it was so dumb too .. i was like why the (frank) would we trade for Tallinder
he shut me up - gerbe75pts
Hey someone was on here earlier asking about whether or not Eichel would be the #1 draft pick over MacKinnon. I told him you'd have a good opinion on that. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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This just might have some teeth:
@TSNBobMcKenzie thinks Sabres and Kane? Armia has been a prospect mentioned by him? Does buffalo move him? #Sabres http://t.co/Gmi1k3Omqf - Irish 14
It came out right away that the Jets would want a young NHLer or prospect that was NHL ready...
I think a lot of us thought that probably meant we'd be giving up either Grigorenko or Armia in the deal |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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My Myers bias aside. That trade is not remotely fair on our end. - sbroads24
I would say it's fair. I wouldn't say it's a deal I would move Myers for though |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Gare, Shoenfeld, Smith, Sauve for McCourt, Foligno, Peterson, 1st - GilPerreault11
Graves, Klima, Murphy, Sharples for Carson, McClelland, and a 5th. |
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Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 02.13.2007
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It came out right away that the Jets would want a young NHLer or prospect that was NHL ready...
I think a lot of us thought that probably meant we'd be giving up either Grigorenko or Armia in the deal - jdfitz77
I didn't realize Bogosian is only 24. He's been around a while. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Just watching game 6 of 99 scf... Wow... We had a power play!
Not to denigrate that team, but does anyone ever think about if the Sabres had won (let me finish), what their legacy would have been?
A) Hasek and some other guys won
B) worst team to win the cup in the modern era
C) Buffalo has good luck for once?
I'm looking at Hull, Belfour, Modano, Zubov, niuewendyke (so), lehtonen, hatcher, Carbonneau, langenbrunner... And we had Barnes, peca, and Juneau... Lol, what could have been! - Da_Cashman
Good points
And now I hate u for reminding me about that, lol
I was at that game...
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rover16
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: NY Joined: 08.09.2012
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Out of all those, I do not want to give up Lemieux - Irish 14
Hes the only one murray had any part of acquiring. If youre thinking he wants to bring in his own guys. |
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I would say it's fair. I wouldn't say it's a deal I would move Myers for though - Stripes77
Ditto that, Lemieux is who I would perhaps miss, but they will have 4 1st round picks this year if this trade went down and replenish the youngsters. |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Has a trade that big ever happened ? - sbroads24
Samuelsson, Tocchet, Wregget, and a 3rd for Benning, Recchi, and a 1st. |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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My Myers bias aside. That trade is not remotely fair on our end. - sbroads24
I think it's very fair
What's your take on the way I broke down the trade |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I would say it's fair. I wouldn't say it's a deal I would move Myers for though - Stripes77
For all we know Armia ends up a 30 goal scorer.
Bogosian isn't great, he's pretty good but always hurt. Not to mention Kane can't stay healthy.
I can guarantee this never happens. At least not this big of a trade |
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Da_Cashman
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Location: London, ON Joined: 04.18.2011
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Good points
And now I hate u for reminding me about that, lol
I was at that game... - jdfitz77
I can only imagine the rage the arena must have felt that night. |
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Orphen22
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Location: Well...that just happend., NY Joined: 06.24.2012
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Hey guys! So my buddy that works at FNC told me earlier today he heard Bogosian's name being mentioned I hop on an saw that guys trade proposal. It may actually have legs. |
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Punch70
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.07.2011
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Hey guys! So my buddy that works at FNC told me earlier today he heard Bogosian's name being mentioned I hop on an saw that guys trade proposal. It may actually have legs. - Orphen22
This is either the most elaborate troll job or "aww shieeet here we go".
Given the deal, I'm hoping for the former. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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For all we know Armia ends up a 30 goal scorer.
Bogosian isn't great, he's pretty good but always hurt. Not to mention Kane can't stay healthy.
I can guarantee this never happens. At least not this big of a trade - sbroads24
Kane has scored 30 before. You're trading potential for more proven.
Armia could score 30 or he could go back to Europe in 3 years...
It's pretty fair. I still wouldn't do the trade with Myers included though. It's not a deal I would make if Myers is included. |
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rover16
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: NY Joined: 08.09.2012
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Just watching game 6 of 99 scf... Wow... We had a power play!
Not to denigrate that team, but does anyone ever think about if the Sabres had won (let me finish), what their legacy would have been?
A) Hasek and some other guys won
B) worst team to win the cup in the modern era
C) Buffalo has good luck for once?
I'm looking at Hull, Belfour, Modano, Zubov, niuewendyke (so), lehtonen, hatcher, Carbonneau, langenbrunner... And we had Barnes, peca, and Juneau... Lol, what could have been! - Da_Cashman
I remember watching that game at my buddys house. When the goal went in, i set my beer down, walked to the door, and went home. Not a word. Wasnt until i got home that i saw the skate in the crease stuff. Dallas was much much better than us. They were better and deeper at every position except goal, and they had their own hall of fame goalie in net. It was a great ride though. |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I'm not too big on giving up both Armia and Lemieux for Kane - Sabresfan-365
I hear ya... Its gonna cost to get him though
Thing is, Lemieux could end up being very "Kane like"
Only question IMO is whether or now Lemieux will score enough in the NHL to be a 1st liner?
I could see him being anywhere form a 3rd liner that scores around 15, to a "Brown" or "Callahan" that can get 25ish |
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Orphen22
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Location: Well...that just happend., NY Joined: 06.24.2012
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This is either the most elaborate troll job or "aww shieeet here we go".
Given the deal, I'm hoping for the former. - Sabresfan-365
Lol idk. Personally I think it is to much for Kane, and I really like Lemiux, but my friend didn't say specifics just that he had heard Bogosian's name. I get home from work and figured I would pop in cause I havent been on in a while and the first thing I see is that trade proposal. |
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Da_Cashman
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Location: London, ON Joined: 04.18.2011
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Kane has scored 30 before. You're trading potential for more proven.
Armia could score 30 or he could go back to Europe in 3 years...
It's pretty fair. I still wouldn't do the trade with Myers included though. It's not a deal I would make if Myers is included. - Stripes77
Remember that night that Bobby Ryan was supposed to be traded to us? I stayed up all night waiting and no dice! He's a friend of a friend and I was just envisioning all,the free tix and locker room exposure! Now he plays for the f-ing Sens so f him |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I think it's very fair
What's your take on the way I broke down the trade - jdfitz77
Personally I don't think Bogosian - Myers is a wash. Myers is a better scorer. Defensively they are pretty equal.
Armia+Lemieux for Kane could end up being highway robbery Or we could end up getting robbed. |
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Da_Cashman
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Location: London, ON Joined: 04.18.2011
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I remember watching that game at my buddys house. When the goal went in, i set my beer down, walked to the door, and went home. Not a word. Wasnt until i got home that i saw the skate in the crease stuff. Dallas was much much better than us. They were better and deeper at every position except goal, and they had their own hall of fame goalie in net. It was a great ride though. - rover16
I stopped watching because if I watched, they would loose. Went to the drive in to see Gladiator with my future wife and got some action... Came back home and watched the end off the third and stayed up,watching all the ots.... Yelled out when we hit the crossbar off the draw in ot1... Best chance. Then the no goal was just devastating. A couple of years later, there was the philly goal through the hole in the net in the first round. NHL hates us! |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I think it's very fair
What's your take on the way I broke down the trade - jdfitz77
Personally I don't think Bogosian - Myers is a wash. Myers is a better scorer. Defensively they are pretty equal.
Armia+Lemieux for Kane could end up being highway robbery Or we could end up getting robbed. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I can only imagine the rage the arena must have felt that night. - Da_Cashman
I was there, 300 level
Thing was, we didn't really know what happened. All we knew was that Ruff was furious...
The scoreboard back then sucked, so we couldn't actually see that his foot was in the crease.
I stayed to watch the cup ceremony, so I didn't realize what happened until like an hour later when I saw the replay at the bar
Ugh... Still hurts |
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