I'd trade Lemieux and Armia for a proven star all day long.
- Slump Buster

I want Kane as well but I don't like the idea of trading two of our top prospects and not receiving one of their prospects in return. Lemieux shouldn't be moved in this scenario.

Trade Armia. What he projects to be is already what Evander Kane is and then some.

Lemieux is a scoring pest. I see him like a Brad Marchand. He is a keeper and dont think he goes anywhere.

Stafford or Stewart is the immediate help that I think we all agree is fine giving up and same goes for the STL 1st but the prospect with these items is what will be interesting. I still hope to see Larsson go in the deal or get called up to replace when some of these vets get moved. He needs to be up here or needs to be gone. Flynn is first one I want to be off the team thats not an old expiring vet. He is an AHL player to me
- Beezer33

I still think you vastly underrate Flynn, but we know you disagree on that.

Armia I understand, but not Lemiuex as well for the reasons you said. Compher or Hurley I get.

Here is my thoughts on that "big trade" rumor:

If you can get Kane without giving up Lemieux I would be all for it.

Armia Stafford and say Baptiste I would even think about Compher for Kane

Myers for Bogosian

2nd for a 1st

The only way I would say okay is if I could get Yandle out of Arizona with Winnipeg's 1st and another spec (not named Lemieux)

I am not sure the asking price for Yandle but if I am sending Myers I want a puck moving D coming back one way or another.

I still think you vastly underrate Flynn, but we know you disagree on that.

Armia I understand, but not Lemiuex as well for the reasons you said. Compher or Hurley I get.
- kingcong39

Flynn hasn't been playing well as of late, but I think putting him on a 4th line with Deslauriers and Mitchell you have a really solid 4th line.

Kane is a proven star? Hardly, IMO.

Hall is a proven star, Kane is not.
- kingcong39

Kane can score 30 and has. Hall has never done that. Hall is better than Kane but Kane has proven he can play at this level for good. See Seguin for reference

Is E. Kane that first line winger you want for the next 10 years?


Or are we settling for a fringe top end talent player that Murray may be able to acquire?

I'd trade Lemieux and Armia for a proven star all day long.
- Slump Buster

Proven star?

Couldn't have said it any better. Very well put sir.
- kingcong39

Thank you KC.

Kane can score 30 and has. Hall has never done that. Hall is better than Kane but Kane has proven he can play at this level for good. See Seguin for reference
- Beezer33

I think you are thinking of the other Kane here

Evander has been Drew Stafford like...

Flynn hasn't been playing well as of late, but I think putting him on a 4th line with Deslauriers and Mitchell you have a really solid 4th line.
- Stripes77

I think at best he is a 4th line player in the NHL. Similar to the Danny Paille role. He is very quick and can be on the PK but I can name a bunch more people that can take his spot within a year

Is this Kane, IYO?
- TheSabresTaco

Yup. A two-way power forward that has the ability to put in 40 goals and punch you in the face afterward? Isn't that why teams are lining up to get this guy?

And the refusal to trade 18 and 20 year olds for this kind of player is laughable. I like Armia just fine but he might only ever be a 2nd or 3rd line player. He might be nothing. Who knows? That's the risk that Winipeg has to weigh. We know we'd be getting back a very good player / star. They might end up with a couple of 3rd liners. You gotta give to get.

I think you are thinking of the other Kane here

Evander has been Drew Stafford like...
- Stripes77

How would you play when no one likes you on the team and vice versa. He needs to be in a place that will help him grow. I think with our rebuild in full swing and ready to make the jump soon he would be an immense boost to our team for next year.

No one is Drew Stafford like...no one haha

I still think you vastly underrate Flynn, but we know you disagree on that.

Armia I understand, but not Lemiuex as well for the reasons you said. Compher or Hurley I get.
- kingcong39

Schaller passes Flynn next year. There are only so many spots for these kinds of guys and we seem to have plenty of them.

Is E. Kane that first line winger you want for the next 10 years?


Or are we settling for a fringe top end talent player that Murray may be able to acquire?
- homiedclown

Put it this way. Would Pittsburgh like to have a guy like Kane on the wing for Crosby? My answer is yes.

Kane with McEichel si a 30 goal guy, IMO. he is also a guy to protect him and create space.

Here is my thoughts on that "big trade" rumor:

If you can get Kane without giving up Lemieux I would be all for it.

Armia Stafford and say Baptiste I would even think about Compher for Kane

Myers for Bogosian

2nd for a 1st

The only way I would say okay is if I could get Yandle out of Arizona with Winnipeg's 1st and another spec (not named Lemieux)

I am not sure the asking price for Yandle but if I am sending Myers I want a puck moving D coming back one way or another.
- Stripes77

A friend of mine said he would do it if they would take Foligno instead of Lemieux. Thoughts?

Yup. A two-way power forward that has the ability to put in 40 goals and punch you in the face afterward? Isn't that why teams are lining up to get this guy?

And the refusal to trade 18 and 20 year olds for this kind of player is laughable. I like Armia just fine but he might only ever be a 2nd or 3rd line player. He might be nothing. Who knows? That's the risk that Winipeg has to weigh. We know we'd be getting back a very good player / star. They might end up with a couple of 3rd liners. You gotta give to get.
- Slump Buster

you just described Lemieux in 3 years

you just described Lemieux in 3 years


- homiedclown

I said 40 goals, not 15-20 playing on the 3rd line

Based on the rumor last night I would do Myers, Stafford, Armia, Blues 1st and the Isles 2nd for Kane, Engstrom and the Jets 1st.

I said 40 goals, not 15-20 playing on the 3rd line
- Slump Buster

as they say in the south

"I'd take that bet all day long"

A friend of mine said he would do it if they would take Foligno instead of Lemieux. Thoughts?
- HonkFortheGoose

I still would but have really liked how Foligno has played as of late. He is back to that aggressive PWF with a scoring touch. I would be aiming to keep him and Lemieux. Armia is really highest prospect I would want to give up and simply because Kane does more than Armia already and Armia is a bit of an unknown currently.

Kane can score 30 and has. Hall has never done that. Hall is better than Kane but Kane has proven he can play at this level for good. See Seguin for reference
- Beezer33

Hall has produced points at a higher level then Kane.

Is Kane the better all around player? Maybe.

However, Buffalo needs a point producing winger that will definitely produce, not someone that has produced at a decent level but could possibly improve.

Put Hall with their top 2 pick instead of Kane and I would almost guarantee he outperforms him.

Also, I understand your point about Seguin, however, I don't think Kane is in the same stratosphere in terms of production as Seguin, nor do I think he ever will be.

Kane can score 30 and has. Hall has never done that. Hall is better than Kane but Kane has proven he can play at this level for good. See Seguin for reference
- Beezer33

Hall is at .88 PPG over his career. Kane is at .61.

I'd take Hall over Kane and never look back.

A friend of mine said he would do it if they would take Foligno instead of Lemieux. Thoughts?
- HonkFortheGoose

I would be more inclined to make that trade

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago
BUF has assets to work with: 1st-rd picks (NYI and STL); prospects such as Joel Armia, rental wingers Chris Stewart/Drew Stafford, PLUS...

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago
...If BUF opts to put Tyler Myers into the equation, it will get very interesting for WPG. Anyway, BUF is aggressively pursuing.

Bob is authority. I trust no one else as much.

Hall is at .88 PPG over his career. Kane is at .61.

I'd take Hall over Kane and never look back.
- HonkFortheGoose

it's not even close


hell kick the tires to get Benn if they are going to overpay for E Kane