FYI- Killian got banned 6 months for posting that picture of RW.
- nbartley9

Wow seems harsh. Guess he's a repeat offender

Disappointed in your third line center because he only has 11 goals in 53 games? Trade him for a guy who's never scored more than 11 goals in a season in his career.

Brilliant.
- hardnosed

No, more like disappointed in my center who can't generate anything himself. He rides coattails and still produces at a lower rate. I'd rather have someone who is a better overall player at a better value. That move allows you space for another guy like Bergenheim. Bergy+Winnik >Sutter

What is Sutter worth then...monetarily...2M?

Sutter is a scapegoat
- icedog97

Sutter's a big part of the problem with the bottom 6. He's invisible more often than not, and his line does little to aid in the team's victory. Downie-Sutter-Spaling/Bennett have their moments of decent play, and sometimes even score goals. But it's not like they take over a game when Sid and Malkin are kept in check. Staal-Cooke-Kennedy had quite a few games where they took off while a team's focus was on the top two lines. This team does not have that. It hasn't for a few seasons now.

Sutter's a big part of the problem with the bottom 6. He's invisible more often than not, and his line does little to aid in the team's victory. Downie-Sutter-Spaling/Bennett have their moments of decent play, and sometimes even score goals. But it's not like they take over a game when Sid and Malkin are kept in check. Staal-Cooke-Kennedy had quite a few games where they took off while a team's focus was on the top two lines. This team does not have that. It hasn't for a few seasons now.
- simethos

Mainly due to Staal. 6'5 top 6 center playing in a bottom 9 role. We were extremely spoiled when we had the 3 headed monster. We will not have that opportunity again unless we strike gold in the draft, which will be next year most likely as we only have 1 top 90 pick this year.

Spot on. When nearly a third of your team's salary cap allotment in Malkin and Crosby is significantly under-producing compared to their career output and disappear for weeks at a time, that has to be addressed, or the team is going nowhere..
- hardnosed

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Wow seems harsh. Guess he's a repeat offender
- dbell646

Ha yeah I would say so, 6 months is nuts though; it was far less offensive than some of his past posts.


I maybe bias because he is my cousin, but 6 months is a bit much.

Agreed. But, Scuderi was brought here to be a top pairing dman for Letang. At his hit, that would have been a steal. He is now a depth dman, he plays good as well. Yeah, he's over payed by about 1 million or so. Sutter same situation of being overpayed by 1-1.5. Spaling should be a 1 million hit. That's around 3-4 million we should have free. That could have went towards 2 bottom 6's or one larger top 6/bottom 6 tweener.
- znagle

You should look around the league at each teams bad cap hits and then you might realize the pens are lucky to overpay guys by a couple hundred thousand than 2-3 million each.

Oh no! Sutter is getting a million more than he should!! Loui eriksson; Chris Stewart; mason Raymond; semin; Horton; Weiss; pouliot; fleischmann; too many more to list

Brandon Sutter is a 1st line name earning a 2nd line salary as a 3rd line center with 4th line results.

I don't know if Sutter is entitled. But I am not going to stop my crusade against Brandon Sutter until he is off the roster.
- jfkst1

Doesn't get any more right than this

Ha yeah I would say so, 6 months is nuts though; it was far less offensive than some of his past posts.


I maybe bias because he is my cousin, but 6 months is a bit much.
- nbartley9

They are delivering a message. He's only a plug if it were an all star poster such as myself I'd have gotten 2 games

Mainly due to Staal. 6'5 top 6 center playing in a bottom 9 role. We were extremely spoiled when we had the 3 headed monster. We will not have that opportunity again unless we strike gold in the draft, which will be next year most likely as we only have 1 top 90 pick this year.
- znagle

Exactly. If they are playing the third line and producing like a second line center then they ARE NOT a 3rd line center and will be paid accordingly (ie: Staal).

Lots of new posters today, welcome to the place where urine filled balloons fly, mullets waive, and sheep herd all at the same time we talk about hockey. Sometimes....


WWJJD


F Sutter

Ha yeah I would say so, 6 months is nuts though; it was far less offensive than some of his past posts.


I maybe bias because he is my cousin, but 6 months is a bit much.
- nbartley9

Considering he added nothing to the conversations other than his sick obsession with RW I would say it's worth it. I don't come on here to read someone's immature rantings about a blogger with annoying childish pictures that a five year old would find funny.

They are delivering a message. He's only a plug if it were an all star poster such as myself I'd have gotten 2 games
- dbell646

I don't know man I've received some pretty serious bans and we all know how fondly im thought of around here haha.

They are delivering a message. He's only a plug if it were an all star poster such as myself I'd have gotten 2 games
- dbell646

but it is a NHL related post so maybe it should have only been 10 day...you know because the picture didn't hurt anyone's feelings.

I don't see anything changing this year. Maybe next? Kind of tired of SOS. Believe me, I'm still a fan but the lack of progress on the bottom six is more than annoying. It makes the Pens organization look like a clown car.

You should look around the league at each teams bad cap hits and then you might realize the pens are lucky to overpay guys by a couple hundred thousand than 2-3 million each.

Oh no! Sutter is getting a million more than he should!! Loui eriksson; Chris Stewart; mason Raymond; semin; Horton; Weiss; pouliot; fleischmann; too many more to list
- jchst22

Don't forget Semin and Brian Campbell. Seriously everyone freaks out about how much "over payed" they are. On open market, they would all make that/more at the time of signing. Luckily we aren't stuck with a true turd.. cough cough Mike Richards. Blows my mind that some here actually wanted Richards.

I don't know man I've received some pretty serious bans and we all know how fondly im thought of around here haha.
- nbartley9

It goes Killian then you then poop if you were curious.

Considering he added nothing to the conversations other than his sick obsession with RW I would say it's worth it. I don't come on here to read someone's immature rantings about a blogger with annoying childish pictures that a five year old would find funny.
- acdc1206

He actually has a pretty good mind for hockey, and the pic of RW was absolutely hilarious, maybe im immature but I know I laughed.



WWJJD



F Sutter

Exactly. If they are playing the third line and producing like a second line center then they ARE NOT a 3rd line center and will be paid accordingly (ie: Staal).
- kgrpitt

Yup, he ended up pricing himself out of town. That's what happens when we actually draft players... Home grown talent it needed for any team, even more so with our team.

It goes Killian then you then poop if you were curious.
- dbell646

That maybe the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me hahah jerk


F Sutter

I actually think that its right on the money, although I wouldn't put him on my 4th line; give me Lappy any day of the week.
- nbartley9

The Sutter name is about fundamental play, tight checking, and timely scoring. Not glitzy point totals.

Sutter isn't being paid 2nd line money, unless he got a raise to 5 or 6 mil a year.

And he's far outproducing any 4th line center in the league.

So I take it back, one thing was right - Sutter plays on the 3rd line.

He actually has a pretty good mind for hockey, and the pic of RW was absolutely hilarious, maybe im immature but I know I laughed.



WWJJD



F Sutter
- nbartley9

Not sure if I missed something else but wasn't it just a link to Ryan's twitter page? Or was there more?

Not sure if I missed something else but wasn't it just a link to Ryan's twitter page? Or was there more?
- dbell646

No it was a gigantic picture, took up the whole thread; it was funny; it may have crossed the line but it wasn't offensive.

No, more like disappointed in my center who can't generate anything himself. He rides coattails and still produces at a lower rate. I'd rather have someone who is a better overall player at a better value. That move allows you space for another guy like Bergenheim. Bergy+Winnik >Sutter
- usethe1-2-2

How is Winnik a better overall player exactly? Advanced stats BS?

Mainly due to Staal. 6'5 top 6 center playing in a bottom 9 role. We were extremely spoiled when we had the 3 headed monster. We will not have that opportunity again unless we strike gold in the draft, which will be next year most likely as we only have 1 top 90 pick this year.
- znagle

And yet Staal was still chided non-stop because he wasn't producing enough.