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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
What's your point?
- mayorofangrytown


Post o' the day.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
The mindset that they have, the bunker mentality, IS ingrained. They could save themselves a lot of grief if the they didn't treat these things like Nixon treated secretaries talking to reporters.
- Jsaquella

Are you implying that you know something about Nixon's secretaries? I don't want to read a novel around that one line and be wrong...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 5:02 PM ET
If Grossman is the Patron Saint then Hal Gil must be the Pope of slow Dman who lack skill
- 3flyerkids


But come on, he played REALLY WELL for like 2 games late in the season when everyone else was gassed and he was fresh...we should have signed him to an 80-year extension.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:04 PM ET
OB or anybody else who follows prospects more closely than I do:

What are we looking at as far as goaltenders for the upcoming draft in Rounds 3 or 4?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
Are you implying that you know something about Nixon's secretaries? I don't want to read a novel around that one line and be wrong...
- mayorofangrytown


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 5:06 PM ET
OB or anybody else who follows prospects more closely than I do:

What are we looking at as far as goaltenders for the upcoming draft in Rounds 3 or 4?

- AllInForFlyers


The Flyers should just bite the inevitable bullet and draft hammarby in the 5th round.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 9 @ 5:06 PM ET
We should be skeptical...for (frank)s sake the GM came out yesterday and determined himself it had nothing to do with the previous injury without so much as an MRI. I like Hextall...but flyers always gonna flyer
- Just5


There's currently a player that's one free clot in the blood stream away from a stroke being fast-tracked back to the ice... if the team and the player are convinced they want to do something (stupid), how exactly is a doctor going to stop it from happening?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:08 PM ET
The Flyers should just bite the inevitable bullet and draft hammarby in the 5th round.
- jmatchett383


Ha! How is he from post-to-post?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 5:10 PM ET
OB or anybody else who follows prospects more closely than I do:

What are we looking at as far as goaltenders for the upcoming draft in Rounds 3 or 4?

- AllInForFlyers


Not sure about that deep. There's a handful of guys like Felix Sanstrom, Denis Godla, Sam Montembeault & Daniel Vladar who might fall in that area, unless they get a run on goalies, like last draft.

The top ones are Mackenzie Blackwood, Ilya Samsonov and Callum Booth all could be gone by the 3rd
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 5:10 PM ET
Ha! How is he from post-to-post?
- AllInForFlyers


Based on pure speculation...slightly better than Emery.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 5:11 PM ET
Not sure about that deep. There's a handful of guys like Felix Sanstrom, Denis Godla, Sam Montembeault & Daniel Vladar who might fall in that area, unless they get a run on goalies, like last draft.

The top ones are Mackenzie Blackwood, Ilya Samsonov and Callum Booth all could be gone by the 3rd

- Jsaquella


Mackenzie Blackwood, I like that name, we should grab him. Also, Daniel Vladar is pretty close to Darth Vader, so that would be a good one, too.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
Mackenzie Blackwood, I like that name, we should grab him. Also, Daniel Vladar is pretty close to Darth Vader, so that would be a good one, too.
- jmatchett383


Vladar is a huge dude.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
There's currently a player that's one free clot in the blood stream away from a stroke being fast-tracked back to the ice... if the team and the player are convinced they want to do something (stupid), how exactly is a doctor going to stop it from happening?
- Tomahawk


Bury a hatchet in the player's back?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
Ha! How is he from post-to-post?
- AllInForFlyers



He's usually very angry from one post on HB to his next post on HB.


Ohhhhhhh..... you meant on the ice.... ummm... he's probably pretty angry between those posts too, like Hextall with a yarmulke.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
Not sure about that deep. There's a handful of guys like Felix Sanstrom, Denis Godla, Sam Montembeault & Daniel Vladar who might fall in that area, unless they get a run on goalies, like last draft.

The top ones are Mackenzie Blackwood, Ilya Samsonov and Callum Booth all could be gone by the 3rd

- Jsaquella


Thanks -- I'm totally fine with Stolarz as a prospect, but what Mason's injury has really done is remind us all that the Flyers need to get another prospect in there quickly.

It wouldn't necessarily kill them to bring in another 25-28 year old, either
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 9 @ 5:14 PM ET
Vladar is a huge dude.
- Jsaquella


Possible Philadelphia replacement for Pat the Bat?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:15 PM ET
He's usually very angry from one post on HB to his next post on HB.


Ohhhhhhh..... you meant on the ice.... ummm... he's probably pretty angry between those posts too, like Hextall with a yarmulke.

- Doc_Sarcasm


HA!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 5:15 PM ET
Thanks -- I'm totally fine with Stolarz as a prospect, but what Mason's injury has really done is remind us all that the Flyers need to get another prospect in there quickly.

It wouldn't necessarily kill them to bring in another 25-28 year old, either

- AllInForFlyers


If Zepp is returning soon, I'd use him and let Stolarz and Ouellet handle the AHL load. If Zepp is out for a bit himself, look at getting a guy like Budaj or Leighton for cheap to split time with Emery while Mason is out.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
He's usually very angry from one post on HB to his next post on HB.


Ohhhhhhh..... you meant on the ice.... ummm... he's probably pretty angry between those posts too, like Hextall with a yarmulke.

- Doc_Sarcasm

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:25 PM ET
RE: Evander Kane speculation

According to Lawless there are two camps in the bidding process, teams in the playoffs and those out of the picture, and the price Cheveldayoff's asking for is said to be "a young, NHL player, a grade-A prospect and a first-round pick."


Young player, Grade-A prospect AND pick?

I swear, I don't get it. I just don't get it -- yeah, you can ask for whatever you want, but does anybody believe he's getting that?

I would laugh at that. I would try to be respectful, but if he was really serious, I'd ask him which sub-20-goal season I should watch to tell myself I should pay 40-goal prices
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
RE: Evander Kane speculation

According to Lawless there are two camps in the bidding process, teams in the playoffs and those out of the picture, and the price Cheveldayoff's asking for is said to be "a young, NHL player, a grade-A prospect and a first-round pick."


Young player, Grade-A prospect AND pick?

I swear, I don't get it. I just don't get it -- yeah, you can ask for whatever you want, but does anybody believe he's getting that?

I would laugh at that. I would try to be respectful, but if he was really serious, I'd ask him which sub-20-goal season I should watch to tell myself I should pay 40-goal prices

- AllInForFlyers


Enjoy repairing the damage done in the locker room, Chevy.

I figured that'd be the asking price. Not willing to even entertain that
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 9 @ 5:27 PM ET
OB or anybody else who follows prospects more closely than I do:

What are we looking at as far as goaltenders for the upcoming draft in Rounds 3 or 4?

- AllInForFlyers


IMO, just sign one of the more sought-after college UFA goalies this summer or trade for another team's unpolished kid. Probability of success for goalie picks is so low... I'd rather they take skaters in the top-4 rounds.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:30 PM ET
IMO, just sign one of the more sought-after college UFA goalies this summer or trade for another team's unpolished kid. Probability of success for goalie picks is so low... I'd rather they take skaters in the top-4 rounds.
- Tomahawk


Has any of the college kids panned out, for anybody, though?

I would love to take skaters, too, but I think they might really need to inject a real prospect -- maybe even two -- into their system.

Mason's certainly not old, but he's just one man. Him getting hurt really shows that they need to seriously look at this -- Rob Zepp is a nice story, but that can't be what we're going to war with simply because they have no other options
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 9 @ 5:32 PM ET
Enjoy repairing the damage done in the locker room, Chevy.

I figured that'd be the asking price. Not willing to even entertain that

- Jsaquella


I know prices come down, blah blah blah, but I am honestly sitting here looking at that possible ask with my mind blown

I don't even know how you have the sack to ask for two of those pieces, let alone three
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 9 @ 5:35 PM ET
Well, the bottom line is that Mason is likely out for awhile and if Panaccio's report is accurate, he's probably not coming back before the deadline.

Whether or not we agree on the handling of the situation, there's plenty of past instances of the Flyers mis-handling injuries. It's not exactly unfair to be a bit skeptical of their process in this case.

That said, there's also no reason to assume that by sitting Mason or even reducing his workload would have prevented this injury. Just because some feel the Flyers should have been more prudent isn't a reason to have a 35 page pissing match

- Jsaquella

poop, I was late to the pissing contest!
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