With contracts, teams have a lot of say in what players can and can't do. If the team wanted him to get surgery, felt it absolutely necessary, I imagine they would simply say he isn't playing until it gets done.
- wolfhounds

They do, and a team can certainly apply leverage if they choose to. There is also an NHLPA and language pertaining to medical issues both in the CBA and in the SPC.

I guess you missed them sitting Laughton for three weeks until he was 100% fine.
- Feanor

Let's be honest... if there were no concussion protocols, and all the sensitivity around that injury specifically, do you honestly feel like Laughton and/or the Flyers would have voluntarily shut it down for 3-weeks?

I don't believe the Flyers would let what a player says trump a medical recommendation from team Doctors.
- mayorofangrytown

Completely different scenario then the team ignoring the medical staff and inserting the player in the lineup based on the player's feedback.

Completely different scenario then the team ignoring the medical staff and inserting the player in the lineup based on the player's feedback.
- MJL

Completely different.

Where did anyone say that they ignored the medical staff?

Let's be honest... if there were no concussion protocols, and sensitivity around that injury specifically, do you honestly feel like Laughton and/or the Flyers would have voluntarily shut it down for 3-weeks?
- Tomahawk

That's like saying if there was no X ray machines, teams would continue to put players with broken bones in the lineup. Medicine evolves. Players in Hockey and other sports routinely played with concussions in the past, due to simply not having knowledge of how to disagnose and treat concussions.

Let's be honest... if there were no concussion protocols, and all the sensitivity around that injury specifically, do you honestly feel like Laughton and/or the Flyers would have voluntarily shut it down for 3-weeks?
- Tomahawk

They didn't before. In fact it's on the record that the GM tried to embarrass Lindros back into the line up before his concussion symptoms had gone away.

Completely different.

Where did anyone say that they ignored the medical staff?
- mayorofangrytown

You said you beleive this to be true

""If he says he's ready to play we're going to put him out there."

You said you beleive this to be true

""If he says he's ready to play we're going to put him out there."
- MJL

Where is there any mention of ignoring the medical staff smart guy?

Where is there any mention of ignoring the medical staff smart guy?
- mayorofangrytown

You're saying that doesn't imply that they do?

You're saying that doesn't imply that they do?
- MJL

That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying.
- mayorofangrytown

Then what is the point?

sucks for mason...back to a top 5 lottery pick
- PhillaBully

I think beyond the Montreal game, we'll remain hot. We play the Jackets and Sabers twice a piece.

Am I the only one who has issues with the way Mason has been handled twice this season? I've pointed out several time after the Boston game. Ease him back in. If we are scheduled for three games in a week, I believe Mason should take on only two max. Instead he's been seeing every game. Getting hurt twice in game, in two very innocent moments is a bad sign. The guy looked like he stepped on a pebble and that was it for him.

They didn't before. In fact it's on the record that the GM tried to embarrass Lindros back into the line up before his concussion symptoms had gone away.
- mayorofangrytown

Seriously.... and Clarke was more pissed that 88 called out the team trainers than he was that his franchise player almost ended up dead on that flight back to Philly.

Then what is the point?
- MJL

What's your point?

The patron saint of slow dmen who lack skill??
- BiggE

If Grossman is the Patron Saint then Hal Gil must be the Pope of slow Dman who lack skill

@tpanotchCSN: SOURCE tells me that Mason will undergo an arthroscopic procedure on right knee to determine cause of pain and lockup/ story coming


...and we've arrived at "more drastic" apparently
- Jsaquella

Stolarz now saying he'd like to be in the 40s and will most likely go with #46

Well, the bottom line is that Mason is likely out for awhile and if Panaccio's report is accurate, he's probably not coming back before the deadline.

Whether or not we agree on the handling of the situation, there's plenty of past instances of the Flyers mis-handling injuries. It's not exactly unfair to be a bit skeptical of their process in this case.

That said, there's also no reason to assume that by sitting Mason or even reducing his workload would have prevented this injury. Just because some feel the Flyers should have been more prudent isn't a reason to have a 35 page pissing match

So this new injury to his right knee has nothing to do with his previous injury to his right knee?

What's your point?
- mayorofangrytown

Well, the bottom line is that Mason is likely out for awhile and if Panaccio's report is accurate, he's probably not coming back before the deadline.

Whether or not we agree on the handling of the situation, there's plenty of past instances of the Flyers mis-handling injuries. It's not exactly unfair to be a bit skeptical of their process in this case.

That said, there's also no reason to assume that by sitting Mason or even reducing his workload would have prevented this injury. Just because some feel the Flyers should have been more prudent isn't a reason to have a 35 page pissing match
- Jsaquella

I took 23 pages off.

So there!

Stolarz now saying he'd like to be in the 40s and will most likely go with #46
- aightwebang17

Thank you.

Well, the bottom line is that Mason is likely out for awhile and if Panaccio's report is accurate, he's probably not coming back before the deadline.

Whether or not we agree on the handling of the situation, there's plenty of past instances of the Flyers mis-handling injuries. It's not exactly unfair to be a bit skeptical of their process in this case.

That said, there's also no reason to assume that by sitting Mason or even reducing his workload would have prevented this injury. Just because some feel the Flyers should have been more prudent isn't a reason to have a 35 page pissing match
- Jsaquella

We should be skeptical...for (frank)s sake the GM came out yesterday and determined himself it had nothing to do with the previous injury without so much as an MRI. I like Hextall...but flyers always gonna flyer

Stolarz now saying he'd like to be in the 40s and will most likely go with #46
- aightwebang17

source?

We should be skeptical...for (frank)s sake the GM came out yesterday and determined himself it had nothing to do with the previous injury without so much as an MRI. I like Hextall...but flyers always gonna flyer
- Just5

The mindset that they have, the bunker mentality, IS ingrained. They could save themselves a lot of grief if the they didn't treat these things like Nixon treated secretaries talking to reporters.