Was thinking about the Dale Weise deal after a montreal guy came into here to thank us, but if you think about it we did pretty well.

We trade Dale for Raphael which we sent to new York for 5th rounder to draft forsling. Then we traded him for a second rounder prospect and arguably our best defensive prospect.
- pker2theend

Good memory

Here is something interesting:

Trevor Linden was drafted in 1988, second overall. He played for the Canucks for 10 years when he was traded to the NYI for Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan McCabe and a 3rd round pick (Jarkko Ruutu). Todd Bertuzzi was then flipped for Roberto Luongo and Bryan McCabe helped us get both Sedins.

Vancouver traded Luongo for Jacob Markstrom and Shawn Matthias
And the Sedins are currently with the Canucks Organization

It is amazing to think how much a draft pick in 1988 (almost 30 years ago) has and still has a profound affect on the Canucks Organization.

Markstrom, Matthias, and Daniel Sedin are technically here because of Trevor Linden.

Could you imagine what we could have had if Gillis handled the Luongo situation better?
- Bakwas

If you think that's amazing you should follow the Cam Neely trade from Boston's perspective. It resulted in about 8 players that beat us for the cup

28 Alexandre Grenier RW 37 10 10 20 3 51 7 0 86 11.6
10 Brendan Gaunce LW 45 6 13 19 5 15 1 0 97 6.2
17 Nicklas Jensen RW 33 10 8 18 -9 19 2 0 99 10.1
9 Hunter Shinkaruk LW 45 6 9 15 -3 20 1 0 93 6.5

Player Pos GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SHG SOG SH%

Not amazing stats from the prospects in Utica but not bad either. Real difference in the shooting percentage from the guys that have had a couple of years in the AHL to the rookies. Gaunce IMO has the best shot at probably a 3rd line LW in the NHL. Grenier with his size could be maybe the next Dale Weise who can play on any line and will do anything to prove people wrong about him haha

28 Alexandre Grenier RW 37 10 10 20 3 51 7 0 86 11.6
10 Brendan Gaunce LW 45 6 13 19 5 15 1 0 97 6.2
17 Nicklas Jensen RW 33 10 8 18 -9 19 2 0 99 10.1
9 Hunter Shinkaruk LW 45 6 9 15 -3 20 1 0 93 6.5

Player Pos GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SHG SOG SH%

Not amazing stats from the prospects in Utica but not bad either. Real difference in the shooting percentage from the guys that have had a couple of years in the AHL to the rookies. Gaunce IMO has the best shot at probably a 3rd line LW in the NHL. Grenier with his size could be maybe the next Dale Weise who can play on any line and will do anything to prove people wrong about him haha
- manvanfan

I would love to see some vets traded for these kids to get a chance.

Kane has scored 30 goals once and been no where near since. He's got attitude issues, the Jets are trying to trade him, yet Canucks would have to give up Horvat, McCann and a 1st to get him...

Makes zero sense, this better just be media morons coming up with poop. Any trade for Kane should centre around Kassian and if that isn't enough for the Jets, then go somewhere else.

Horvat and Virtanen should be untouchable unless it's for someone outstanding, and Kane is definitely not that player.

Kane has scored 30 goals once and been no where near since. He's got attitude issues, the Jets are trying to trade him, yet Canucks would have to give up Horvat, McCann and a 1st to get him...

Makes zero sense, this better just be media morons coming up with poop. Any trade for Kane should centre around Kassian and if that isn't enough for the Jets, then go somewhere else.

Horvat and Virtanen should be untouchable unless it's for someone outstanding, and Kane is definitely not that player.
- Scooby_Doo

This

This
- VANTEL

If thats original asking price. WPG can go fukk themselves. However if its the media making up bullshyt offer to rile people up then I say still explore it at the right price.

Call me stupid but the one thing I cant seem to find is whether he has a NTC. If he does. He can pull a Kes on the Jets and pretty much dictate where he gos. And from what I've read. Vancity is hungry for this kid.

Im not at all opposed to having him in our line-up. I think we have a solid group of leadership here from top to bottom that can lead this kid down the right path.

Only question is What will it Actually cost us.......?

We'll see but I'll be surprised if he's flossin a Jets logo after the TD

Kane has scored 30 goals once and been no where near since. He's got attitude issues, the Jets are trying to trade him, yet Canucks would have to give up Horvat, McCann and a 1st to get him...

Makes zero sense, this better just be media morons coming up with poop. Any trade for Kane should centre around Kassian and if that isn't enough for the Jets, then go somewhere else.

Horvat and Virtanen should be untouchable unless it's for someone outstanding, and Kane is definitely not that player.
- Scooby_Doo

The only person who has mentioned this is Botch.... and for some stupid reason TSN is deciding to run with it. If that is in fact the cost then the Jets can keep him. No way he's worth that. Virtanen is pretty much the same player but will come a hell of a lot cheaper for the next 3-5 years. Kane is paid to much for what he actually produces at the moment

If thats original asking price. WPG can go fukk themselves. However if its the media making up bullshyt offer to rile people up then I say still explore it at the right price.

Call me stupid but the one thing I cant seem to find is whether he has a NTC. If he does. He can pull a Kes on the Jets and pretty much dictate where he gos. And from what I've read. Vancity is hungry for this kid.

Im not at all opposed to having him in our line-up. I think we have a solid group of leadership here from top to bottom that can lead this kid down the right path.

Only question is What will it Actually cost us.......?

We'll see but I'll be surprised if he's flossin a Jets logo after the TD
- vancity787

Bob Mckenzie and Freidman have also said that is the asking price. he doesn't have a NTC

Time to let this go .

Bob Mckenzie and Freidman have also said that is the asking price.

Time to let this go .
- VANTEL

If true. Yup, Walk away. I find it hard to believe anyone would pay that type of price for that big of a potential problem. His price will lower, I garuntee it.

If thats original asking price. WPG can go fukk themselves. However if its the media making up bullshyt offer to rile people up then I say still explore it at the right price.

Call me stupid but the one thing I cant seem to find is whether he has a NTC. If he does. He can pull a Kes on the Jets and pretty much dictate where he gos. And from what I've read. Vancity is hungry for this kid.

Im not at all opposed to having him in our line-up. I think we have a solid group of leadership here from top to bottom that can lead this kid down the right path.

Only question is What will it Actually cost us.......?

We'll see but I'll be surprised if he's flossin a Jets logo after the TD
- vancity787

He can't have a NTC he's not old enough. Players can not negotiate a NTC until they are eligible to be an UFA, age 27 or 7 years in the league.

If true. Yup, Walk away. I find it hard to believe anyone would pay that type of price for that big of a potential problem. His price will lower, I garuntee it.
- vancity787

the Jets have zero leverage. Guy doesn't want to play for them ever again, he's coming off shoulder surgery, not the most mature guy, and his current production is well below what he should be doing for what he's paid.

Kane has scored 30 goals once and been no where near since. He's got attitude issues, the Jets are trying to trade him, yet Canucks would have to give up Horvat, McCann and a 1st to get him...

Makes zero sense, this better just be media morons coming up with poop. Any trade for Kane should centre around Kassian and if that isn't enough for the Jets, then go somewhere else.

Horvat and Virtanen should be untouchable unless it's for someone outstanding, and Kane is definitely not that player.
- Scooby_Doo

Were you hoping I was already drunk with that trade proposal?

He can't have a NTC he's not old enough. Players can not negotiate a NTC until they are eligible to be an UFA, age 27 or 7 years in the league.
- 1970vintage

interesting.

If true. Yup, Walk away. I find it hard to believe anyone would pay that type of price for that big of a potential problem. His price will lower, I garuntee it.
- vancity787

I hope we don't trade our first round pick. I know a few question Paul Bittner but what I have seen I like.

6'4 he cani score , he can play tough and big. He was very noticeable at the prospects game amongst his fellow stars.

interesting.
- vancity787

I believe, for instance, that Shae Webber has a NTC that kicks in part way through is mammoth contract. At the moment, Nashville could trade him anywhere, though they wouldn't as they have already paid him one billioooooooooon dollars.

Kane has scored 30 goals once and been no where near since. He's got attitude issues, the Jets are trying to trade him, yet Canucks would have to give up Horvat, McCann and a 1st to get him...

Makes zero sense, this better just be media morons coming up with poop. Any trade for Kane should centre around Kassian and if that isn't enough for the Jets, then go somewhere else.

Horvat and Virtanen should be untouchable unless it's for someone outstanding, and Kane is definitely not that player.
- Scooby_Doo

What made you come on here and talk sense? Where is scoob?

If thats original asking price. WPG can go fukk themselves. However if its the media making up bullshyt offer to rile people up then I say still explore it at the right price.

Call me stupid but the one thing I cant seem to find is whether he has a NTC. If he does. He can pull a Kes on the Jets and pretty much dictate where he gos. And from what I've read. Vancity is hungry for this kid.

Im not at all opposed to having him in our line-up. I think we have a solid group of leadership here from top to bottom that can lead this kid down the right path.

Only question is What will it Actually cost us.......?

We'll see but I'll be surprised if he's flossin a Jets logo after the TD
- vancity787

I don't want Kane and his sideshow here and I question the Canucks' leadership'.

I don't want Kane and his sideshow here and I question the Canucks' leadership'.
- Marwood

wouldn't be surprised if it was ownership pushing it. Doesn't sound like a Benning move.

I don't want Kane and his sideshow here and I question the Canucks' leadership'.
- Marwood

Question Leadership all you want but I garuntee you we have better leadership in this organization than WPG. Andrew Ladd? is that your leader? DB is that your leader, The guy that threw your clothes in the shower? They have talent, they dont have leadership.

Anyways Im as tired of this conversation as everyone else. Lets move on shall we.

wouldn't be surprised if it was ownership pushing it. Doesn't sound like a Benning move.
- Mungo

If Benning watched the game against the Sharks( and he did) , he would be looking long and hard about acquiring Kane.

If Benning watched the game against the Sharks( and he did) , he would be looking long and hard about acquiring Kane.
- VANTEL

I went to the Pitt game... they looked okay then

i say just wait 7 months for Virtanen and 3 years for Kane

wouldn't be surprised if it was ownership pushing it. Doesn't sound like a Benning move.
- Mungo

IMO ownership isn't going to push anything during this régime. Book it. Though I am sure he will be well informed in the loop.

If Benning watched the game against the Sharks( and he did) , he would be looking long and hard about acquiring Kane.
- VANTEL

If he wasn't I would be disappointed. He should be turning over every rock to make this team better, as long as he doesn't have to stray from "the plan", which to me means Horvat/Virtanen/2015 1st are off the table. Add McCann if you like, but everyone else is only potential.

Question Leadership all you want but I garuntee you we have better leadership in this organization than WPG. Andrew Ladd? is that your leader? DB is that your leader, The guy that threw your clothes in the shower? They have talent, they dont have leadership.

Anyways Im as tired of this conversation as everyone else. Lets move on shall we.
- vancity787

Kassian has looked good the last couple of games. Seems a lot more focused on an all round game. I was at the Pitt game and he did a great job on the breakouts, which is an area he sometimes struggles.