And how hard is it to screw up a number 5 overall pick....well we are talking about the Leafs.
- dom13

Luke Schenn

I see Percy, Gauthier, Leivo and Granberg as legit NHL players to some level.

Too early to tell with Nylander, Nilsson, Johnson, Brown, Finn and Bibeau.
- walshyleafsfan

Finns going to be a stud. Slowed by illness and injury last 2 yrs. Best D prospect on Marlies IMO

Might be our top 4 guys but on most teams, probably 6 down...
- dom13

Ok

Might be our top 4 guys but on most teams, probably 6 down...
- dom13

We are ranked near the bottom for prospects...every year we finish between 25-30, terrible for a team who never makes the playoffs.

Finns going to be a stud. Slowed by illness and injury last 2 yrs. Best D prospect on Marlies IMO
- Badge

The same things said about Drake Berehowsky and Carlo Colaiacovo and Jesse Blacker and Andrew MacWilliam....

Does anyone really think management will do this the right way? I will believe it when i see it. The fans have been calling for a proper rebuild for a long time...i have yet to see any resemblance of a plan in my 35 futile years as a Leaf fan.

Does anyone really think management will do this the right way? I will believe it when i see it. The fans have been calling for a proper rebuild for a long time...i have yet to see any resemblance of a plan in my 35 futile years as a Leaf fan.
- TincupCanuck

Well put my friend...finally someone who sees this whole embarrassment as I do

the only bids they'll get on their core is over how much of the contract they'll have to eat.
- dt99999

Pessimism from a Habs fan? No..... can't be. Although seeing as you're a HB season ticket holder you must be pretty bright, we should probably listen to you...........

Know what I see one the ice from these guys is a lack of interest to get engaged physically with the other team. Its very strange looking at the players on paper that have some guys with size and pounds on them but they all play like they are 5'7" 160 lbs no one can push the opposing players around no matter how big or small they are.

I'm not sure if its the lack of caring or just not in there game but we have to much of the same thing from every player that's for sure.

Know what I see one the ice from these guys is a lack of interest to get engaged physically with the other team. Its very strange looking at the players on paper that have some guys with size and pounds on them but they all play like they are 5'7" 160 lbs no one can push the opposing players around no matter how big or small they are.

I'm not sure if its the lack of caring or just not in there game but we have to much of the same thing from every player that's for sure.
- jake24242

Poor Komarov has no one to back him up...

Does anyone really think management will do this the right way? I will believe it when i see it. The fans have been calling for a proper rebuild for a long time...i have yet to see any resemblance of a plan in my 35 futile years as a Leaf fan.
- TincupCanuck

I do I think shanny would refuse to do it other wise. And when the day comes where or if I no longer think they can fix this or do it the right way I wont be a fan anymore and from your point of view why are you still a fan?

Poor Komarov has no one to back him up...
- dom13

Ya its weird like jvr should be a force all over the ice hes fast as hell and has soft hands and hes 220 like what.

The same things said about Drake Berehowsky and Carlo Colaiacovo
- dom13

So from noe on no matter who the Leafs draft they are busts because someone said Drake and Carlo were going to be good?

I wanted to vote but my opinion wasn't listed. I don't think this team is as bad their recent record shows. The leafs went from being one of the highest scoring team in the league to the lowest in over the course of a month and a half. Has to be do to the change of systems. No way every player on the team just forgets to score. Add the fact that goaltending has been considerable worse than normal. I do think that the core needs to be blown up because of complete lack of character and leadership and I think management realizes it. I believe they move all their ufas by trade deadline and move core pieces if they believe they can get fair value either now or in the summer. My biggest concern is thAt this team will start scoring again and win just enough games to finish out the season and hurt their draft position.
- HealthyScratch6

the collapse corresponds with the Leafs brass getting a good closeup look of McDavid winning WJ gold at the ACC.

The same things said about Drake Berehowsky and Carlo Colaiacovo and Jesse Blacker and Andrew MacWilliam....
- dom13

every fan thinks their team has done a great job at the draft in the last 3-4 years.

every. single. fan.

Ya its weird like jvr should be a force all over the ice hes fast as hell and has soft hands and hes 220 like what.
- jake24242

there's a reason Philly traded him for Luke Schenn.

The same things said about Drake Berehowsky and Carlo Colaiacovo and Jesse Blacker and Andrew MacWilliam....
- dom13

no, they really weren't

well Carlo was a bit, and if he wasn't made of glass he would have been very good. Lost a ton of crucial development time 19-24 yrs old.

none have Finn's pedigree to this point.

Ya its weird like jvr should be a force all over the ice hes fast as hell and has soft hands and hes 220 like what.
- jake24242

he's following Kessel's lead.

Get him off that line and he's much better, as he was last night.

every time he breaks them up, JVR plays better. Then PH puts them back together and hello suck

no, they really weren't

well Carlo was a bit, and if he wasn't made of glass he would have been very good. Lost a ton of crucial development time 19-24 yrs old.

none have Finn's pedigree to this point.
- Badge

this is the same Matt Finn who is on pace for 6 points with the Marlies right?

Complete tear-down. Keep JVR Kadri Rielly Gardiner, Holland. That is it. The rest need to be traded, bought out, or demoted. Tank Tank Tank.

this is the same Matt Finn who is on pace for 6 points with the Marlies right?
- DoubleDown

Do you believe there are any prospects in the Leafs system that they can consider for the future?

The Leafs are total crap. I think the biggest thing they lack in that room is a proper leader to set the tone. When I picture their dressing room in my mind, I can see Phil Kessel and Dion Phaneuf in their respective spots moping about how much their life sucks in Toronto. This team needs a John Tavares type to pull them out from years of absolute misery.

Tear it the fucck down already.

there's a reason Philly traded him for Luke Schenn.
- DoubleDown

Yep he was soft and at that time injured prone. But least hes not injured prone anymore.

The Leafs are total crap. I think the biggest thing they lack in that room is a proper leader to set the tone. When I picture their dressing room in my mind, I can see Phil Kessel and Dion Phaneuf in their respective spots moping about how much their life sucks in Toronto. This team needs a John Tavares type to pull them out from years of absolute misery.

Tear it the fucck down already.
- jazzca1974

This. I think this is what they are trying to start this season. I'd be extremely surprised if they won 5 more games this year

he's following Kessel's lead.

Get him off that line and he's much better, as he was last night.

every time he breaks them up, JVR plays better. Then PH puts them back together and hello suck
- Badge

Better idk I haven't seen him even on the ice in 20 games hes so invisible and that's when he has been with kadri not kessel.