If their scouting staff thought he'd be the player he is today, they wouldn't have waited till the 7th round to take him.
- Feeling Glucky?

that's unfair. obviously they didn't know 100% (how many players in a draft are sure things? 5? 6?) but they knew damn well that there was potential there and they get credit for that. as for WHERE he was drafted, why draft a guy in round 2 or 3 when you know he'll be there in round 6 or 7? i think there are a lot of players in those later rounds who, if they weren't taken by their team, wouldn't have been taken at all.

Wasn't Andrew McWilliam a hot item this time last year? Our stay at home D man with a mean streak? Don't hear much about him no more...
- dom13

+13 in 42 games.

don't hear much about him cause he;s a stay at home D and he's behind Holzer and Granberg on the depth chart in that department.

having a fine season though. He's at best a Polak one day, if his skating improves massively.

19th isn't great, but it's not bottom-5, either.

http://www.hockeysfuture....m-rankings-2014-15/page/2
- Feeling Glucky?

i stand corrected..for that site. There are several others; in fact THN comes out real soon.

that's unfair. obviously they didn't know 100% (how many players in a draft are sure things? 5? 6?) but they knew damn well that there was potential there and they get credit for that. as for WHERE he was drafted, why draft a guy in round 2 or 3 when you know he'll be there in round 6 or 7? i think there are a lot of players in those later rounds who, if they weren't taken by their team, wouldn't have been taken at all.
- DoubleDown

I think detroit's developmental system should get a tone more credit than the scouts... and having the patience to wait for the player to actually develop.

i stand corrected..for that site. There are several others; in fact THN comes out real soon.
- clark_griswold

and which site had Nylander as the top #1 drafted prospect? ESPN?

+13 in 42 games.

don't hear much about him cause he;s a stay at home D and he's behind Holzer and Granberg on the depth chart in that department.

having a fine season though. He's at best a Polak one day, if his skating improves massively.
- Badge

And here's the problem we have. All these guys mentioned, with the exception of Nylander (i see a very good second line / potentially top line winger) are all role players IF they turn out.

Those are fine if you have a core team in place. We are starting over and basically have nylander and Rielly. So to answer this thread's original question...we are VERY bad.

and which site had Nylander as the top #1 drafted prospect? ESPN?


- Badge

he's all we got. And to be honest it's not his fault...but i put much more faith in a top centre or D than a winger. Again, not his fault but the overall outlook for our future is bleak....but i guess can only get better

And here's the problem we have. All these guys mentioned, with the exception of Nylander (i see a very good second line / potentially top line winger) are all role players IF they turn out.

Those are fine if you have a core team in place. We are starting over and basically have nylander and Rielly. So to answer this thread's original question...we are VERY bad.
- clark_griswold

I think we have a few more very good D prospects as well. several with top 4 potential. but I agree forwards are very thin.

all this is arguing over some of saying we have 1 forward prospect, and others saying we have 2 more.

Not 1 damn person here thinks we have more than 3. on this we can agree

But hopefully that number doubles over the next 5 months

And here's the problem we have. All these guys mentioned, with the exception of Nylander (i see a very good second line / potentially top line winger) are all role players IF they turn out.

Those are fine if you have a core team in place. We are starting over and basically have nylander and Rielly. So to answer this thread's original question...we are VERY bad.
- clark_griswold

all talk so far is they intend to develop him as a C going forward

And here's the problem we have. All these guys mentioned, with the exception of Nylander (i see a very good second line / potentially top line winger) are all role players IF they turn out.

Those are fine if you have a core team in place. We are starting over and basically have nylander and Rielly. So to answer this thread's original question...we are VERY bad.
- clark_griswold

Leafs need to acquire picks. high picks, low picks, whatever. their goal should be 9-10 picks in the next few drafts. allows you to swing for the fences on some pick and bring in some boom-bust prospects in addition to the safe picks (Gauthier). that's why i thought the Bolland trade was so reckless and egregious on Nonis's part. he traded almost had a draft for the guy. teams should rarely go into a draft with fewer than 6 picks.

all talk so far is they intend to develop him as a C going forward
- Badge

i don't see it. kessel was also projected to be a centre by some. I believe nylnader will be a winger but who knows

Leafs need to acquire picks. high picks, low picks, whatever. their goal should be 9-10 picks in the next few drafts. allows you to swing for the fences on some pick and bring in some boom-bust prospects in addition to the safe picks (Gauthier). that's why i thought the Bolland trade was so reckless and egregious on Nonis's part. he traded almost had a draft for the guy. teams should rarely go into a draft with fewer than 6 picks.
- DoubleDown

but shouldn't we hang on to winnik and santo

but shouldn't we hang on to winnik and santo
- clark_griswold

those 2 will be very easy to sign in the summer if you trade them. they're going to the highest bidder. and after trading Phaneuf/Kessel cap space won't be an issue. i think Winnik especially is a good guy to keep around for that.

those 2 will be very easy to sign in the summer if you trade them. they're going to the highest bidder. and after trading Phaneuf/Kessel cap space won't be an issue. i think Winnik especially is a good guy to keep around for that.
- DoubleDown

I was being sarcastic my friend!

Brown and Johanson are top 6 and he will be a marlie at the end of the year im sure.
- jake24242

Saw Brown in 2 playoff games against Guelph last year, and unless his skating has gotten a LOT better, I wouldn't count on him making it to full time NHLer.
You could tell the heart was there, but not the legs.
Finn on the other hand looked like a pro already.

They'll trade a couple UFA's, Fire Horachek and Nonis in the off-season, hire a new GM, draft 9th, hire a new coach, sign some bargain basement guys.

No other changes.

We'll be having this conversation again this time next year.

They'll trade a couple UFA's, Fire Horachek and Nonis in the off-season, hire a new GM, draft 9th, hire a new coach, sign some bargain basement guys.

No other changes.

We'll be having this conversation again this time next year.
- Aetherial

AND I FOR ONE CAN'T WAIT!!

Leafs need to acquire picks. high picks, low picks, whatever. their goal should be 9-10 picks in the next few drafts. allows you to swing for the fences on some pick and bring in some boom-bust prospects in addition to the safe picks (Gauthier). that's why i thought the Bolland trade was so reckless and egregious on Nonis's part. he traded almost had a draft for the guy. teams should rarely go into a draft with fewer than 6 picks.
- DoubleDown

It is really fcuking pathetic. i don't know how any organization in any industry can be so incompetent for so long.

AND I FOR ONE CAN'T WAIT!!
- dt99999

you smell

yet we are consitently ranked in the bottom 5 of every major prospect rating guide/site whatever. And they DON"T hate the leafs.

Nylander i've only seen play a few times. Brown again i have formed my opinion from experience.
- clark_griswold

We are ranked 18th I believe

you smell
- Aetherial

Wait until next year

We are ranked 18th I believe
- Santo_44

19th in hockey's future. We'll see what THN ranks us. 19th is terrible for our poope decade. just inexcusable

not bad enough

Too many players miscast in their roles for where they are in their development. Yes, development. Players are always developing. Trade to the right team and they will thrive. As a group they don't work.
Detonate.. no matter what you get back and start fresh.
It's a financial clean up as much as a hockey one.

there will be no ten game win streak..not this year.
- Popcorn Kid

Didn't they already have one....in December?