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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: The dust settles on the Evander Kane/Tyler Myers blockbuster trade
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:43 PM ET
I cannot believe you won't even give him an opportunity to predict what some talented players will do.
- Der Kaiser


Look man, you live your life your own way....
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:44 PM ET
They lost a lot IMO.

This deal comes down to Armia, Lemieux, and the 1st and what they become. They meet expectations then it's a landslide in Winnipeg's favor. They don't then it's a win in Buffalo's favor. Right now it was a good hockey trade.

- dadeadhead

Why is it a land slide in Buffalo's favor? 3/4's of this thread was calling Myers a top pairing defenseman and you got a top 4 in Bogosian in return. You got a forward I doubt any team would trade to of their top winger prospects and a 2015 for in Kane. A guy who scored thirty once, can't stay healthy, just had surgery, whose entire team from top to bottom has hated and wanted to trade for 3 years now. As a comparison how many times did Moulson actually score 30 goals again before you guys got him?

I'm having a hard time seeing how Buffalo won this trade by a land slide?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:44 PM ET
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:44 PM ET
I called the exact Staal trade to Carolina, Yak was a bust, and Evander Kane would be a Sabre.

So you can take your respect and shove it.....



- dadeadhead


I think your uncle fed you that intel. NO RESPECT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
Why is it a land slide in Buffalo's favor? 3/4's of this thread was calling Myers a top pairing defenseman and you got a top 4 in Bogosian in return. You got a forward I doubt any team would trade to of their top winger prospects and a 2015 for in Kane. A guy who scored thirty once, can't stay healthy, just had surgery, whose entire team from top to bottom has hated and wanted to trade for 3 years now. As a comparison how many times did Moulson actually score 30 goals again before you guys got him?

I'm having a hard time seeing how Buffalo won this trade by a land slide?

- Cptmjl


Go read professional analyses.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
2 daughters...I know just about everything from that show (and the movies)....
- stashu

one daughter and a son that will watch it as well if Thomas isn't on.. i know more than i should
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
captain douche here..

a avatar or an avatar?

- IndianaSabresFan

Hey now.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
I think your uncle fed you that intel. NO RESPECT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
- stashu


You tell him Stash. He can't do poop without his uncle.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
Why is it a land slide in Buffalo's favor? 3/4's of this thread was calling Myers a top pairing defenseman and you got a top 4 in Bogosian in return. You got a forward I doubt any team would trade to of their top winger prospects and a 2015 for in Kane. A guy who scored thirty once, can't stay healthy, just had surgery, whose entire team from top to bottom has hated and wanted to trade for 3 years now. As a comparison how many times did Moulson actually score 30 goals again before you guys got him?

I'm having a hard time seeing how Buffalo won this trade by a land slide?

- Cptmjl


Reading comprehension?? Not once did he say landslide in Buffalo's direction
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
I know of a certain flames tiny rookie that has 40 points in his rookie season.

To think Reinhart cant put up similar numbers as a higher touted prospect is just silly
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:46 PM ET
He broke his scoring titale as a 16 yrold in juniors. Proably bcs there was no draft. Go back and read my posts to understand what my ambition was bcs you completely misinterpreted the point I was making and this is getting beyond tiring.
- Cptmjl



Yes with 72 goals in 67 games compared to 70 goals in 64 games.

He also had 48 less points.


I got your point just think the comparison was misguided. Tavares was a great Jr player there is no question about it but to compare Tavares's 4 yr Jr career to the one yr Gretzky played in Jr's is way off.

They aren't comparable. I mean why don't you compare it to Mario Lemieux's Jr career while you're at it.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:46 PM ET
Too much to read through it all. But I read, Kessel is slow...

That's crazy, he is one of the fastest skaters in the nhl, he has a fat face, people need to get over it. In the offseason if we could move the other first, along with Ennis, and a prospect or two for kessel, I'd be all over that.

Moulson McEichael Kessel
Kane Reinhart Girgorenko
Foligno Girgensens Gionta
McCormick Larsson player X

Buyout Hodgson for the 747k for 8 years. That a bubble Team that finishes in 10 next year, and makes the jump to the playoffs in 2016/2017
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 12 @ 2:46 PM ET
In a meaningless game:

Les Habitants 121.50
Ghost Islands 190.00
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:46 PM ET
Why is it a land slide in Buffalo's favor? 3/4's of this thread was calling Myers a top pairing defenseman and you got a top 4 in Bogosian in return. You got a forward I doubt any team would trade to of their top winger prospects and a 2015 for in Kane. A guy who scored thirty once, can't stay healthy, just had surgery, whose entire team from top to bottom has hated and wanted to trade for 3 years now. As a comparison how many times did Moulson actually score 30 goals again before you guys got him?

I'm having a hard time seeing how Buffalo won this trade by a land slide?

- Cptmjl

i think most admitted he was a 3/4 but he could eventually be a top guy if he reached his potential..
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:47 PM ET
Go read professional analyses.
- TheSabresTaco

I see. That seals it! I forgot one of your fellow Sabre fans mentioned to me earlier this is the thread full of fantasies and unicorns. Just remembered that.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:47 PM ET
one daughter and a son that will watch it as well if Thomas isn't on.. i know more than i should
- IndianaSabresFan


Dammit...and now I can't get a frigging song from the latest movie out of my head....thanks.....jerk
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
Too much to read through it all. But I read, Kessel is slow...

That's crazy, he is one of the fastest skaters in the nhl, he has a fat face, people need to get over it. In the offseason if we could move the other first, along with Ennis, and a prospect or two for kessel, I'd be all over that.

Moulson McEichael Kessel
Kane Reinhart Girgorenko
Foligno Girgensens Gionta
McCormick Larsson player X

Buyout Hodgson for the 747k for 8 years. That a bubble Team that finishes in 10 next year, and makes the jump to the playoffs in 2016/2017

- Mentalorgasm5



I think there are players that will come at a lesser cost than Kessel to the Sabres.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
Dammit...and now I can't get a frigging song from the latest movie out of my head....thanks.....jerk
- stashu

you are welcome..
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
Why is it a land slide in Buffalo's favor? 3/4's of this thread was calling Myers a top pairing defenseman and you got a top 4 in Bogosian in return. You got a forward I doubt any team would trade to of their top winger prospects and a 2015 for in Kane. A guy who scored thirty once, can't stay healthy, just had surgery, whose entire team from top to bottom has hated and wanted to trade for 3 years now. As a comparison how many times did Moulson actually score 30 goals again before you guys got him?

I'm having a hard time seeing how Buffalo won this trade by a land slide?

- Cptmjl




Read more, post less?

Where did it say Buffalo in a landslide? I said if Armia, Lemieux, and the 1st don't pan out the trade goes to Buffalo's favor. Favor is a huge difference than landslide.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
So if Kessel is now available, do you think we can take a run at that? Do we even want to?

What do you think the price is? 1st, 2nd and high prospect?

- Lilroot9



I guess it depends what they want...
But if it's something like Grigorenko, NYi 1st & a 2nd I'd have a hard time not making that deal... And I'm not a fan of Kessel
There's other guys out there is target
They might not be as dynamic, but I'd rather have a 25-30 goal guy that can play in all zones then a 40+ scorer that doesn't do much else

Very interesting to consider though
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:49 PM ET
Too much to read through it all. But I read, Kessel is slow...

That's crazy, he is one of the fastest skaters in the nhl, he has a fat face, people need to get over it. In the offseason if we could move the other first, along with Ennis, and a prospect or two for kessel, I'd be all over that.

Moulson McEichael Kessel
Kane Reinhart Girgorenko
Foligno Girgensens Gionta
McCormick Larsson player X

Buyout Hodgson for the 747k for 8 years. That a bubble Team that finishes in 10 next year, and makes the jump to the playoffs in 2016/2017

- Mentalorgasm5


Larsson's not signing here for 4th line minutes. Deslauriers is not going anywhere. Kessel coming here is a greasy pipe dream.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:49 PM ET
Yes with 72 goals in 67 games compared to 70 goals in 64 games.

He also had 48 less points.


I got your point just think the comparison was misguided. Tavares was a great Jr player there is no question about it but to compare Tavares's 4 yr Jr career to the one yr Gretzky played in Jr's is way off.

They aren't comparable. I mean why don't you compare it to Mario Lemieux's Jr career while you're at it.

- dadeadhead

Again. Not comparing the players but the hype that Tavares had when he was drafted. He was labeled the "Next One". Of course he's not close to the player Gretzky is. The point was saying Tavares wasn't a defnitive number 1 selection that I did not agree with because he most definitely was.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
I see. That seals it! I forgot one of your fellow Sabre fans mentioned to me earlier this is the thread full of fantasies and unicorns. Just remembered that.
- Cptmjl


You're a god damned ray of sunshine, you know that.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
Read more, post less?

Where did it say Buffalo in a landslide? I said if Armia, Lemieux, and the 1st don't pan out the trade goes to Buffalo's favor. Favor is a huge difference than landslide.

- dadeadhead


Myers could be a Norris candidate and Kane could score 40

Bogosian is going to be a solid 3/4 guy and if Armia Lemieux and 1st don't pan out the Sabres win this trade

Right now I think its a good trade for both teams.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:51 PM ET
Read more, post less?

Where did it say Buffalo in a landslide? I said if Armia, Lemieux, and the 1st don't pan out the trade goes to Buffalo's favor. Favor is a huge difference than landslide.

- dadeadhead

Misread. Apologize
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