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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:39 PM ET
satan was the most under-rated sabres the last 20 years


tell me I am wrong

- homiedclown



JP Dumont?

I kid.

Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Feb 12 @ 5:40 PM ET
I think they are failing to live up to expectations. It was on Darcy to not be proactive to get depth defensemen when ours were getting hurt. You can't play with severe injuries and you can't coach players that aren't on the ice.
- thatsapickle



Luck is a factor too. They weren't lucky in the health dept. Typical Buffalo.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 5:43 PM ET
JP Dumont?

I kid.

- thatsapickle

6th most points from his draft class


I did not know he was drafted third overall

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1996e.html
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 5:44 PM ET
Luck is a factor too. They weren't lucky in the health dept. Typical Buffalo.
- Buffalo-Sabres

they were lucky no team claimed pommer when he was on waivers though
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:49 PM ET
6th most points from his draft class


I did not know he was drafted third overall

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1996e.html

- homiedclown



That shocks me.

I did not know that either.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:51 PM ET
Luck is a factor too. They weren't lucky in the health dept. Typical Buffalo.
- Buffalo-Sabres



From a business standpoint, aren't you supposed to prepare for all possibilities? I would think that it's common knowledge that players get hurt before, going into, or during the playoffs. Darcy could have been more proactive to solidify the chance to contend. Obviously hindsight is 20/20.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:51 PM ET
6th most points from his draft class


I did not know he was drafted third overall

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1996e.html

- homiedclown


Yeah, and he was a throw-in in that trade. Go figure.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 12 @ 5:53 PM ET


????

- dadeadhead


Dude this made my day (in what it was a reference to).
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 12 @ 5:56 PM ET
Been a busy few days here. Unfortunately, the lack of work getting done yesterday because of the trade meant I had to buckle down at work today and get more done. Everyone being civil today?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:56 PM ET
That shocks me.

I did not know that either.

- thatsapickle

Vanek 2nd in goals from his draft class now
3rd in points
5th in assists
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:57 PM ET
Been a busy few days here. Unfortunately, the lack of work getting done yesterday because of the trade meant I had to buckle down at work today and get more done. Everyone being civil today?
- HonkFortheGoose

No
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 12 @ 5:57 PM ET
satan was the most over-rated sabres the last 20 years


tell me I am wrong

- homiedclown



kekekeke

But in all seriousness, Satan was a stud. Most Under-rated though? Stu Barnes
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
No
- cabin


Straight and to the point. I like it
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
I think they are failing to live up to expectations. It was on Darcy to not be proactive to get depth defensemen when ours were getting hurt. You can't play with severe injuries and you can't coach players that aren't on the ice.
- thatsapickle

Definitely.

They are world class players, but they have been stagnant at times in the post season. MAF included (who was a 1st overall pick)

Part of their problem is depth, other part is underwhelming play or injuries to their stars
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
kekekeke

But in all seriousness, Satan was a stud. Most Under-rated though? Stu Barnes

- DynamicThreads


Love Stu Barnes, but I don't think he was under rated while he was here.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 12 @ 6:00 PM ET
Love Stu Barnes, but I don't think he was under rated while he was here.
- HonkFortheGoose


HomieD was suggesting it was Satan but I don't think Satan was under-rated myself. I remember when dude put up 40, people loved him.

Please god no one mention Grosek, though lol. I remember my aunt loved him. Always talked about how much he could bench. I always told her how much he couldn't play hockey.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 6:01 PM ET
Love Stu Barnes, but I don't think he was under rated while he was here.
- HonkFortheGoose

No he was definitely a fan favorite.

Hecht was very under rated here for a while.

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 12 @ 6:02 PM ET
Straight and to the point. I like it
- HonkFortheGoose



We think Max jumped off the peace bridge.

RIP Max
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 12 @ 6:03 PM ET
He was kind of forced to turn the team over to those guys
He was told he could keep Drury OR Briere, NOT BOTH
he thought he had a deal with Drury, & then Quinn Fd it all up by not allowing the paperwork to be completed
Drury got pissed & walked
None of that was Darcy's fault

As far as a trade to put us over the top...
1) those rarely work out... For every Carter & Richards to LA, there's 10 other playoff teams that made deals & didn't win the Cup
2) there might not have been a reasonable deal to make... How did giving up Forsberg for Erat work for the Caps? But at least they "went for it"
F that
3) I'd consider getting zubris for a 1st the type of move you're talking about...
4) again, those deals rarely work

And Darcy had those pieces to sell off BC he got them here to begin with

"Bold" moves don't equal "good" moves btw

- jdfitz77


How did you get a hold of the speech Darcy used to pull the wool over TPeg's eyes?

The good news is that all that inactivity resulted in not even a sniff of a championship and a franchise in ruins. But hey, we owe him for that.

(slaps forehead)
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 12 @ 6:04 PM ET
HomieD was suggesting it was Satan but I don't think Satan was under-rated myself. I remember when dude put up 40, people loved him.

Please god no one mention Grosek, though lol. I remember my aunt loved him. Always talked about how much he could bench. I always told her how much he couldn't play hockey.

- DynamicThreads

thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 12 @ 6:12 PM ET
HomieD was suggesting it was Satan but I don't think Satan was under-rated myself. I remember when dude put up 40, people loved him.

Please god no one mention Grosek, though lol. I remember my aunt loved him. Always talked about how much he could bench. I always told her how much he couldn't play hockey.

- DynamicThreads



Plante?

Turgeon?

DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
Plante?

Turgeon?

- thatsapickle


Plante for sure was. Audette anyone?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
No he was definitely a fan favorite.

Hecht was very under rated here for a while.

- sbroads24


I agree. Everyone liked to get on him, but I liked the kind of game he played. I just think the most of the hate we heard about him was because the coaching staff put him in that position. They had a tendency to put him in roles he wasn't really suited for.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Feb 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
Edmonton should win against Montreal tonight because the Habs love losing to poopty teams.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 12 @ 6:21 PM ET
JP Dumont?

I kid.

- thatsapickle


I liked Dumont a lot.

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