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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:44 AM ET
What number station I'd NHL on Sirus?
- Irish 14

channel 211 on sirus

espo comes on at 3 for the in the slot show with scott laughlin (perhaps the best national hockey show out there)
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:45 AM ET
Zuccarello is good and underrated, along with being young.

Your points are valid about Sharp and Eriksson, although Sharp is producing well again this year, but I would rather have both of those for the short term while not having to give up that much as it will help next year and perhaps the year ahead without causing an issue for the team long term if some of their prospects develop quickly.

- kingcong39


Sharp is a great player, I'm not knocking his ability, but look who he plays with regularly. I just don't see him keeping that up long enough that I'd personally dismiss Kessel completely, that's all.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 13 @ 10:45 AM ET
"Interesting" tidbit in relation to my post about 200+ goal scorers in the last 8 seasons....Kovalchuk is STILL on the list despite player 100+ games less than the majority of the other 20 players that high. Yowzah
- stashu


If he wants to leave the KHL does NJ still own his rights?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
I posted this yesterday in the blog I wrote.

Probable lineup for 2015-2016:

Kane-1st Rd Pick This Year-St. Louis/Sharp/Stewart
Moulson-Reinhart-Ennis
Foligno-Grigorenko/Girgensons-Girgensons/Grigorenko
Deslauriers-Mitchell/Schaller-Flynn

Bogosian-Gorges
Ristolainen-Pysyk
Zadorov-Weber
Ruhwedel

Neuvirth
Greiss

Pie in the sky possible lineup for 2015-2016 if they really want to go for it:

Kane-1st Rd Pick This Year-Sharp
Eriksson/Zuccarello-Reinhart-St. Louis
Moulson-Girgensons-Stewart
Foligno-Mitchell/Schaller-Gionta
Grigorenko

Bogosian-Boychuk
Green/Martin-Gorges
Ristolainen-Zadorov/Pysyk

Neuvirth
Greiss

Which would you choose.

Explanation is in my blog.

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...er_id=22120&post_id=16674
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
And how many of the top 10 are reportedly available?

You want to rocket this rebuild, you get Kessel.

Kessel - McEichel - Kane
Moulson - Reinhart - Ennis
Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta
Deslauries - McCormick - ???

That is a playoff caliber forward group.

- ImThatGuy

I'd be tempted
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:48 AM ET
And how many of the top 10 are reportedly available?

You want to rocket this rebuild, you get Kessel.

Kessel - McEichel - Kane
Moulson - Reinhart - Ennis
Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta
Deslauries - McCormick - ???

That is a playoff caliber forward group.

- ImThatGuy


Top 10:

Ovechkin, Stamkos, Perry, Nash, Iginla, Carter, Kessel, Marleau, Malkin, Staal

I'm sure Iginla is available with Colorado being so bad, but no thanks. Staal potentially available?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
Sharp is a great player, I'm not knocking his ability, but look who he plays with regularly. I just don't see him keeping that up long enough that I'd personally dismiss Kessel completely, that's all.
- stashu


He only has to keep it up for next season and the one after, at which he point he will be a UFA and they can decide then on resigning him or not, plus he won't cost much, IMO, to get from Chicago.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aPOFnZuC80
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
If the goal is to make the playoffs next season, it may be the right move come June


If the rent's not too damn high



Kane got the equivalent of a mid first, a late first, and 2 late seconds
My guess is Kessel would be to add another first to that mix

- homiedclown


If he's around in the offseason I would be very interested to check the pricetag.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 13 @ 10:50 AM ET
And how many of the top 10 are reportedly available?

You want to rocket this rebuild, you get Kessel.

Kessel - McEichel - Kane
Moulson - Reinhart - Ennis
Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta
Deslauries - McCormick - ???

That is a playoff caliber forward group.

- ImThatGuy



Kessel or McEichel?

Cause that's the cost of poker on Kessel.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 13 @ 10:50 AM ET
[quote=kingcong39]

Zucc is being re-signed by NYR. St.Louis will either retire or be a ufa.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
Kessel or McEichel?

Cause that's the cost of poker on Kessel.

- dadeadhead


I don't believe it is. That's like saying TOR is going to as for Crosby or Malkin for Kessel.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
If he wants to leave the KHL does NJ still own his rights?
- ImThatGuy


From a 2013 article:

As it stands, if Kovalchuk decided he wanted to return to the NHL, he would have to get unanimous approval from all 30 clubs. In a year's time, if Kovalchuk wanted to return, he'd have to get approval from the Devils. It's hard to imagine him getting Lou Lamoriello's blessing after bailing.

Bolded has expired, I'd think

In 2018 he needs no "approval"

This particular article doesn't state who has his rights, but I'm guessing he still belongs to NJ.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
channel 211 on sirus

espo comes on at 3 for the in the slot show with scott laughlin (perhaps the best national hockey show out there)

- homiedclown


Thanks Homie, ESPN is like 85
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
He only has to keep it up for next season and the one after, at which he point he will be a UFA and they can decide then on resigning him or not, plus he won't cost much, IMO, to get from Chicago.
- kingcong39


Hes going to cost at least a first +
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
Zucc is being re-signed by NYR. St.Louis will either retire or be a ufa.
- ImThatGuy


They'd be crazy not to but both Stepan and Hagelin are also going to require raises and them playing C would put them ahead of Zuccarello in terms of importance.

There has been talk that St. Louis would stay with the Rangers at a much reduced price.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Feb 13 @ 10:53 AM ET
Ummm, no, sorry
- stashu

Sorry, id rather talk about our team going forward instead of the same myers drivel.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:53 AM ET
Hes going to cost at least a first +
- ImThatGuy


They can ask for that but I doubt they get it.

It will more likely be, IMO, a combination of a pair of 2nd round picks and a prospect, or a 2nd round pick and a pair of prospects.

Without being able to get rid of Hossa, they are going to need to get creative.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
Sorry, id rather talk about our team going forward instead of the same myers drivel.
- zdp1189


Don't get me wrong, I agree there are things I may not want to read through, but such is the way of a discussion forum.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:55 AM ET



smart move, take the helmet off to save your hands
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:57 AM ET
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:58 AM ET
It's okay to use the other hand until the first hand heals. It gets the same result.
- The Don


I call that my "side girl"
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:58 AM ET
I totally overlooked that fact that Edmonton won last night
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 13 @ 10:59 AM ET
Cool stuff . Val James was just on GR
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