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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:12 PM ET
That's what you are missing. I didn't say kane is better, I said that it would take less to get Kessel because of his contract. Only a handful of teams could/would take that contract this summer whereas teams were lining up down the block to get Kane.
- Slump Buster


Contract be damned...Kane is hurt who played his last game in the Peg and didn't produce nearly as much...Kessel is a proven NHL All Star it will cost a pretty penny to get him especially if you aren't parting with a top 5 pick this year
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:13 PM ET

- homiedclown


My favorite part is Brooks looking for his fellow reporter laughing at Torts. Greatness.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:13 PM ET
Contract be damned...Kane is hurt who played his last game in the Peg and didn't produce nearly as much...Kessel is a proven NHL All Star it will cost a pretty penny to get him especially if you aren't parting with a top 5 pick this year
- Stripes77


Contract be damned? The contract is the point.
Stripes77
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Feb 13 @ 12:17 PM ET
Contract be damned? The contract is the point.
- Slump Buster


So because fewer teams can make the trade for him its going to cost less?

Fewer teams were shopping for Kane this season and a lot was given to get him. The price for a player is still going to be the price of the player.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:20 PM ET
Contract be damned...Kane is hurt who played his last game in the Peg and didn't produce nearly as much...Kessel is a proven NHL All Star it will cost a pretty penny to get him especially if you aren't parting with a top 5 pick this year
- Stripes77

I'll go on the record as saying that I would welcome Kessel here with open arms.
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Slump Buster
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Feb 13 @ 12:20 PM ET
So because fewer teams can make the trade for him its going to cost less?

Fewer teams were shopping for Kane this season and a lot was given to get him. The price for a player is still going to be the price of the player.

- Stripes77


Are you kidding? Supply and demand. The worth of anyone is how much someone will pay you for him. That is why Winipeg would have gotten far more for Kane in the summer.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:27 PM ET
Are you kidding? Supply and demand. The worth of anyone is how much someone will pay you for him. That is why Winipeg would have gotten far more for Kane in the summer.
- Slump Buster

No way.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:28 PM ET
I'll go on the record as saying that I would welcome Kessel here with open arms.
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- BuffaloHardHat

all day long
Slump Buster
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Feb 13 @ 12:29 PM ET
Flipping around last night it really was amazing to see all of the former sabres in action last night. It seems like we sold high on most of them. Pommer and Vanek seem to be clearly on the downsides of their career (Minny has to wish they could get out from those contracts). Gaustad is.... well, a 4th liner. Roy.... enough said. I'll always be a fan of Miller but you don't build from the goal out.
Stripes77
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Feb 13 @ 12:30 PM ET
Are you kidding? Supply and demand. The worth of anyone is how much someone will pay you for him. That is why Winipeg would have gotten far more for Kane in the summer.
- Slump Buster


This isn't the stock market or a retail store...

It's a NHL player that plays at a PPG pace and is an All-Star.

If Kessel is going to be traded it will be more than what the Peg got for Kane
Stripes77
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Feb 13 @ 12:30 PM ET
I'll go on the record as saying that I would welcome Kessel here with open arms.
24/7/365

- BuffaloHardHat


As would I Hat
Slump Buster
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Feb 13 @ 12:30 PM ET
No way.
- sbroads24


They would have absolutely gotten NHL-talent instead of lottery tickets. In the end that's what we gave them. Either way, the difference in the number of suitors will be immense.
Slump Buster
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Feb 13 @ 12:32 PM ET
This isn't the stock market or a retail store...

It's a NHL player that plays at a PPG pace and is an All-Star.

If Kessel is going to be traded it will be more than what the Peg got for Kane

- Stripes77


It is absolutely a stock market and we just bought low on a player. Why do you think Cody Hodgson is worth nothing? His career numbers are decent. The contract is what makes him immovable.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:33 PM ET
Flipping around last night it really was amazing to see all of the former sabres in action last night. It seems like we sold high on most of them. Pommer and Vanek seem to be clearly on the downsides of their career (Minny has to wish they could get out from those contracts). Gaustad is.... well, a 4th liner. Roy.... enough said. I'll always be a fan of Miller but you don't build from the goal out.
- Slump Buster


Pominville though? Other than a couple seasons, he's a 60 point-ish guy (60, 62, 66, 68). This year he has 41 in 54 games, so on pace for his norm.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:34 PM ET
Pominville though? Other than a couple seasons, he's a 60 point-ish guy (60, 62, 66, 68). This year he has 41 in 54 games, so on pace for his norm.
- stashu

pommer is the perfect second line player in the NHL, in every way


he just happened to be slotted as a first line player here
grand-magus
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Feb 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
Kane isnt a superstar (yet)

There is no guarantee his attitude issues disappear either.

Its not like he is an established All pro. We didnt get Rick Nash or Taylor Hall who have put up 80 point seasons

- sbroads24



Neither is Myers.

Fair Trade.


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
This isn't the stock market or a retail store...

It's a NHL player that plays at a PPG pace and is an All-Star.

If Kessel is going to be traded it will be more than what the Peg got for Kane

- Stripes77

foligno, gringo, our second pick in the first rd, the islanders pick in the second rd and mccabe

I would do that deal right now
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:36 PM ET
pommer is the perfect second line player in the NHL, in every way


he just happened to be slotted as a first line player here

- homiedclown


Like everyone else who's been on this roster, slid up a bit too far from where he should be.

Though, he could be a great 1st liner too - Kane-DynamicDuo-Pominville?
Slump Buster
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Feb 13 @ 12:36 PM ET
Pominville though? Other than a couple seasons, he's a 60 point-ish guy (60, 62, 66, 68). This year he has 41 in 54 games, so on pace for his norm.
- stashu


I read that they have noticed that his play has really slipped and that he is often bounced to the third line because the young guys passed him. I was surprised that they gave him the term that they did.
Slump Buster
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Feb 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
foligno, gringo, our second pick in the first rd, the islanders pick in the second rd and mccabe

I would do that deal right now

- homiedclown


It won't cost near that much
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:40 PM ET
I read that they have noticed that his play has really slipped and that he is often bounced to the third line because the young guys passed him. I was surprised that they gave him the term that they did.
- Slump Buster


I'm not even sure what his term is, TBH, so I can't speak on it right now. The guy was/is solid though, too bad he had that albatross of captaincy on him.
Stripes77
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Feb 13 @ 12:42 PM ET
It is absolutely a stock market and we just bought low on a player. Why do you think Cody Hodgson is worth nothing? His career numbers are decent. The contract is what makes him immovable.
- Slump Buster


I would not say we bought low on a player...

You're in the minority here and of course you are entitled to your opinion but if Kessel is to be moved it will be for a great return.

This isn't Luongo and his contract since teams don't like to tie up that kind of money for a goalie.

This is for a proven 30 goal PPG player...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:43 PM ET
I read that they have noticed that his play has really slipped and that he is often bounced to the third line because the young guys passed him. I was surprised that they gave him the term that they did.
- Slump Buster

3 goals in his last 3 games

average ice time almost 19 minutes per game
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
3 goals in his last 3 games

average ice time almost 19 minutes per game

- homiedclown


12 on the year. They had to have expected him to put in at least 25 this year.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
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Feb 13 @ 12:47 PM ET
12 on the year. They had to have expected him to put in at least 25 this year.
- Slump Buster


He's already (virtually) matched his Assist total from last year though, so he's dishing it to others who are putting in "more" goals I guess?
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