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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: The dust settles on the Evander Kane/Tyler Myers blockbuster trade
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 12:48 PM ET
I would not say we bought low on a player...

You're in the minority here and of course you are entitled to your opinion but if Kessel is to be moved it will be for a great return.

This isn't Luongo and his contract since teams don't like to tie up that kind of money for a goalie.

This is for a proven 30 goal PPG player...

- Stripes77

last year kessel was 6th in points for the nhl
7th the year before
6th the year before
this team can't score and has a poopty pp
need I say more?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 13 @ 12:49 PM ET
I would not say we bought low on a player...

You're in the minority here and of course you are entitled to your opinion but if Kessel is to be moved it will be for a great return.

This isn't Luongo and his contract since teams don't like to tie up that kind of money for a goalie.

This is for a proven 30 goal PPG player...

- Stripes77


I was in the minority when I said Richards wouldn't be claimed. The general opinion (assuming you are right) doesn't bother me.

Luongo's issue was term and recapture penalty. Kessel doesn't have the latter, although the yearly price is staggering. What makes him untradeable is length and the fact he is on the books for 8 mill next year when so many teams are 1) rebuilding or 2) trying to get under the cap. I bet only 2 or 3 teams can take him on without the Leafs taking back salary. If they do take back salary it is a different conversation.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 12:50 PM ET
12 on the year. They had to have expected him to put in at least 25 this year.
- Slump Buster

in a perfect world, my guess is they expect around 25 goals and 35 to 40 helpers a year
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 13 @ 12:50 PM ET
last year kessel was 6th in points for the nhl
7th the year before
6th the year before
this team can't score and has a poopty pp
need I say more?

- homiedclown


I think people are arguing that Kane is better or that Kessel isn't good. I am merely pointing out that he won't cost nearly as much as people think because of the contract. I'd take Kessel under the right circumstances.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 12:52 PM ET
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 12:53 PM ET
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 13 @ 12:53 PM ET
Neither is Myers.

Fair Trade.

- grand-magus

Again, I never said Myers for Kane was the bad part. It was giving up the ++++ for him and Bogosian.

There isn't 1 consistent player in this deal
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 12:54 PM ET
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 12:55 PM ET
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 12:57 PM ET
last year kessel was 6th in points for the nhl
7th the year before
6th the year before
this team can't score and has a poopty pp
need I say more?

- homiedclown

Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Feb 13 @ 12:57 PM ET
Again, I never said Myers for Kane was the bad part. It was giving up the ++++ for him and Bogosian.

There isn't 1 consistent player in this deal

- sbroads24


Could you please just move on, we get it! You are upset Myers was dealt, but come on bro!

I can't stop saying Bro
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 13 @ 1:00 PM ET
pommer is the perfect second line player in the NHL, in every way


he just happened to be slotted as a first line player here

- homiedclown



He was paid like one too.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 13 @ 1:03 PM ET

- homiedclown


OMG, he's so FAT!!!!!!!!!!!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 1:03 PM ET
Could you please just move on, we get it! You are upset Myers was dealt, but come on bro!

I can't stop saying Bro

- Irish 14

I am guessing if the sabres had kept one of these 3

lemieux
first rd pick
armia


he would have been ok with the trade


just a guess
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Feb 13 @ 1:04 PM ET
95/96 Buffalo Sabres - 33W 42L 7OTL 72Pts

96/97 Buffalo Sabres - 40W 30L 12OTL 92Pts

06/07 Islanders - 40W 30L 12OTL 92Pts

07/08 Islanders- 35W 38L 9OTL 79Pts

13/14 Buffalo Sabres - 17W 36L 9OTL 43Pts

14/15 Buffalo Sabres - 16W 36L 3OTL 35Pts.


I wonder why his winning % is under .500 .
It wasn't before he walked into this mess last year.
That stat is not even fair but I understand its what you people that dislike Nolan have as ammo.
You can't use "he's not an X's and O's coach" any longer because Paul Hamilton shot that fallacy down the other day.
So, it's what you have, I understand but it's not fair at all to Ted the way you are manipulating his coaching totals when you include the past 2 seasons with this roster.
Again, before he walked into this mess he had a winning %.

Let me ask you this question, do you think Jacques Demers was a good coach?


edit: I should have prefaced by stating that you can't go googling Demers.
Can't wait for your reply.

- BuffaloHardHat




And he was 1 game over 500 with the Sabres WITH Hasek. I don't get the obsession, he's won nothing and you're acting like he's Babcock.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 1:05 PM ET
Could you please just move on, we get it! You are upset Myers was dealt, but come on bro!

I can't stop saying Bro

- Irish 14

I get where SB is coming from.

He is simply replying to a post directed towards him Irish.

To be honest I "believe" Murray overpaid as well for the record.

But we won't know that for sure until at the earliest , around next year at this very time. IMO.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 1:05 PM ET
OMG, he's so FAT!!!!!!!!!!!
- stashu

not even close to 200 lbs

BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 1:05 PM ET


And he was 1 game over 500 with the Sabres WITH Hasek. I don't get the obsession, he's won nothing and you're acting like he's Babcock.

- Zschalberg

Do you think Jacques Demers was a good coach?
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Feb 13 @ 1:06 PM ET
OMG, he's so FAT!!!!!!!!!!!
- stashu



I'm sure he's on a much higher resistance than the other guys
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 1:06 PM ET
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 13 @ 1:07 PM ET
Your crazy if you dont want kessel, Faster/ better shot than anyone the sabres have had in a long time...long time. Also he hates the media so you take him out of toronto and let him do his thing i can see 40 goals
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
OMG, he's so FAT!!!!!!!!!!!
- stashu

PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Feb 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
I am guessing if the sabres had kept one of these 3

lemieux
first rd pick
armia


he would have been ok with the trade


just a guess

- homiedclown


If Lemieux wasn't going to sign here (for whatever reason that is), then I don't really care that we dealt him. He also apparently has a terrible attitude in the room. No thanks. He's achieved nothing.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Feb 13 @ 1:09 PM ET
Your crazy if you dont want kessel, Faster/ better shot than anyone the sabres have had in a long time...long time. Also he hates the media so you take him out of toronto and let him do his thing i can see 40 goals
- yen6d1

Ok, then I'm crazy.

One-dimensional soft player who eats up too much cap, IMO. And what we would have to deposit in our closest conference rival to get him, no thank you.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 1:09 PM ET
I am guessing if the sabres had kept one of these 3

lemieux
first rd pick
armia



he would have been ok with the trade


just a guess

- homiedclown

Yep.

I'm riding on that same train as well.

Bolded was over payment where I believe 2 of those should have been suffice, not all 3. IMO
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