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CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:37 PM ET
I would take Kessel in a (frank)ing heartbeat.

Just my opinion.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:37 PM ET
I was shocked at how little the writer expected back

I wouldn't flinch and make that deal right away

- homiedclown



Ditto, but in the offseason please
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:38 PM ET
oh my


http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/698772


3) Phil Kessel to Sabres for Hudson Fasching, Jake McCabe and a 2nd-round pick

Whaddya say, Tim Murray?

The Sabres don't need to admit it, but they're planning to have Connor McDavid be the face of their organization for the next decade. Now whether that comes to fruition remains, but wouldn't his presence be a perfect situation for Kessel?

With the acquisition of Evander Kane, the Sabres made their intent to contend clear the moment they place a ball cap on either McDavid or (heaven forbid) Jack Eichel and will undoubtedly be better equipped to contend with Kessel on the roster. He will score his goals and avoid media scorn without mortgaging the franchise, who sit well beneath the salary cap.

Now, the return is hardly bountiful, but for the Maple Leafs who - in planning to set themselves on fire - have decided they can't win with him, the reward isn't the personnel; it's having Kessel and his $64-million contract move on.

Fasching and McCabe are two intriguing prospects who have represented the United States at the World Juniors, with the latter likely ready to take the leap. And the pick, obviously, is just one slot away from the first round.

- homiedclown


Oh my indeed. If that's all it takes to get Phil out of Toronto do it right now and give Phil the mesals until the Sabres lock up last place. I still think the return will be MUCH higher.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
oh my


http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/698772


3) Phil Kessel to Sabres for Hudson Fasching, Jake McCabe and a 2nd-round pick

Whaddya say, Tim Murray?

The Sabres don't need to admit it, but they're planning to have Connor McDavid be the face of their organization for the next decade. Now whether that comes to fruition remains, but wouldn't his presence be a perfect situation for Kessel?

With the acquisition of Evander Kane, the Sabres made their intent to contend clear the moment they place a ball cap on either McDavid or (heaven forbid) Jack Eichel and will undoubtedly be better equipped to contend with Kessel on the roster. He will score his goals and avoid media scorn without mortgaging the franchise, who sit well beneath the salary cap.

Now, the return is hardly bountiful, but for the Maple Leafs who - in planning to set themselves on fire - have decided they can't win with him, the reward isn't the personnel; it's having Kessel and his $64-million contract move on.

Fasching and McCabe are two intriguing prospects who have represented the United States at the World Juniors, with the latter likely ready to take the leap. And the pick, obviously, is just one slot away from the first round.

- homiedclown


yes.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
I was shocked at how little the writer expected back

I wouldn't flinch and make that deal right away

- homiedclown

That big contract may be a problem when , Kane, Mciechel, and all the others are expireing at the same time. But I like it .
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
oh my


http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/698772


3) Phil Kessel to Sabres for Hudson Fasching, Jake McCabe and a 2nd-round pick

Whaddya say, Tim Murray?

The Sabres don't need to admit it, but they're planning to have Connor McDavid be the face of their organization for the next decade. Now whether that comes to fruition remains, but wouldn't his presence be a perfect situation for Kessel?

With the acquisition of Evander Kane, the Sabres made their intent to contend clear the moment they place a ball cap on either McDavid or (heaven forbid) Jack Eichel and will undoubtedly be better equipped to contend with Kessel on the roster. He will score his goals and avoid media scorn without mortgaging the franchise, who sit well beneath the salary cap.

Now, the return is hardly bountiful, but for the Maple Leafs who - in planning to set themselves on fire - have decided they can't win with him, the reward isn't the personnel; it's having Kessel and his $64-million contract move on.

Fasching and McCabe are two intriguing prospects who have represented the United States at the World Juniors, with the latter likely ready to take the leap. And the pick, obviously, is just one slot away from the first round.

- homiedclown

Well thought out hdc.

I don't like the idea of losing McCabe.

Can I replace him with Pysyk?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
That big contract may be a problem when , Kane, Mciechel, and all the others are expireing at the same time. But I like it .
- cabin


Chicago made it work with Kane Toews Sharp and Hossa...it can be done.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:41 PM ET
Chicago made it work with Kane Toews Sharp and Hossa...it can be done.
- Stripes77

True true.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:41 PM ET
Oh my indeed. If that's all it takes to get Phil out of Toronto do it right now and give Phil the mesals until the Sabres lock up last place. I still think the return will be MUCH higher.
- Stripes77

Give him measles
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
I would take Kessel in a (frank)ing heartbeat.

Just my opinion.

- CaptainRivet

Many are riding the same train.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
I don't understand what the big deal is about Kessel's contract. I mean, I couldn't care less about him, tbh. What really will he add to this team (aside from 30g per)? I haven't seen much out of him two-way and he is slightly undersized. Not a Murray-type.

But the contract is really not that bad, especially in a few years time. And having a guy until he's 34 isn't such a bad thing? One thing I have noticed about everyone in here is that they cringe as soon as a player near or over the age of 30 is mentioned. I don't get it. You need veterans to be successful. 100% you do.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
I don't understand what the big deal is about Kessel's contract. I mean, I couldn't care less about him, tbh. What really will he add to this team (aside from 30g per)? I haven't seen much out of him two-way and he is slightly undersized. Not a Murray-type.

But the contract is really not that bad, especially in a few years time. And having a guy until he's 34 isn't such a bad thing? One thing I have noticed about everyone in here is that they cringe as soon as a player near or over the age of 30 is mentioned. I don't get it. You need veterans to be successful. 100% you do.

- DynamicThreads



The 30g per is exactly what he adds, and it's something the Sabres badly need, Evander Kane or no Evander Kane.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
oh my


http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/698772


3) Phil Kessel to Sabres for Hudson Fasching, Jake McCabe and a 2nd-round pick


- homiedclown



If this is all it took, sign me up and twice on sundays.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
The 30g per is exactly what he adds, and it's something the Sabres badly need, Evander Kane or no Evander Kane.
- buffalofan19



Put Reinhart or hopefully one of McDavid/Eichel between them... pretty lethal.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
I don't understand what the big deal is about Kessel's contract. I mean, I couldn't care less about him, tbh. What really will he add to this team (aside from 30g per)? I haven't seen much out of him two-way and he is slightly undersized. Not a Murray-type.

But the contract is really not that bad, especially in a few years time. And having a guy until he's 34 isn't such a bad thing? One thing I have noticed about everyone in here is that they cringe as soon as a player near or over the age of 30 is mentioned. I don't get it. You need veterans to be successful. 100% you do.

- DynamicThreads

I was looking ahead at trying to fit all these big contracts 4 -5 years from now.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
The 30g per is exactly what he adds, and it's something the Sabres badly need, Evander Kane or no Evander Kane.
- buffalofan19

I agree with you here.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
Well thought out hdc.

I don't like the idea of losing McCabe.

Can I replace him with Pysyk?

- BuffaloHardHat



Pysyk is a MUCH better prospect than McCabe.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
The 30g per is exactly what he adds, and it's something the Sabres badly need, Evander Kane or no Evander Kane.
- buffalofan19

Not to mention speed, which is something this roster has seriously lacked for awhile.

I'd take him, depending on what we have to give up for him. As far as the contract goes, if the cap becomes a problem, there are always options. Trades, buyouts, etc. So I'm not going to worry about something 4 years or so in the future.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
The 30g per is exactly what he adds, and it's something the Sabres badly need, Evander Kane or no Evander Kane.
- buffalofan19


Yeah. And judging by other contracts for similar-type players I really don't see what there is to b!tch about. I like his play better than Vanek's and people beat it over Vanek. I personally thought he was a lazy player who could've easily put up 2 or 3 50-goal seasons had he not been a gambling chimney (he smoked like a crack-head).

Kessel age 27 to 34 at 8 mil for possibly at least 5 30 goal seasons and people are whining about it. If Toronto wants to give him away, you do the deal.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:49 PM ET

I'd take him, depending on what we have to give up for him. As far as the contract goes, if the cap becomes a problem, there are always options. Trades, buyouts, etc. So I'm not going to worry about something 4 years or so in the future.

- HonkFortheGoose

Thats one way to look at it
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Feb 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
I was looking ahead at trying to fit all these big contracts 4 -5 years from now.
- cabin


You worry about that when it comes to it.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
Many are riding the same train.
- BuffaloHardHat

I'm glad. He would look great alongside Kane and McEichel IMO
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yeah. And judging by other contracts for similar-type players I really don't see what there is to b!tch about. I like his play better than Vanek's and people beat it over Vanek. I personally thought he was a lazy player who could've easily put up 2 or 3 50-goal seasons had he not been a gambling chimney (he smoked like a crack-head).

Kessel age 27 to 34 at 8 mil for possibly at least 5 30 goal seasons and people are whining about it. If Toronto wants to give him away, you do the deal.

- DynamicThreads



Like I said, though, it's not just the contract. It's the contract, plus a hefty price you're going to give up as well that makes it potentially cringe-worthy.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
Pysyk is a MUCH better prospect than McCabe.
- Slump Buster

IMO the better prospect is McCabe but hey, they are opinions.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
You worry about that when it comes to it.
- DynamicThreads

Talked me into it.

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