I'd imagine Leafs go Strome if still on the board
- walshyleafsfan

I think Hunter will fight for them to take Marner. He is a special player. People close to him think he is going to be an elite NHL player. He would be getting a lot more attention except for the unique talent of McDavid.

Allright, I'll give Cowen another 2 years, I'll stay neutral for now. He really needs to play mean to be effective. I believe that the parade to the box 16 months ago (starting in the california road trip) took the bite out of his hockey. Can someone run over his cat or something.
- BruteSquad

I would imagine next year is make it or break it for Cowen. I personally think he's just a 4/5 d-man. But he may take a leap.

It sounds silly, but I do think the sole reason for his crummy play is he plastic girlfriend. Around the time he began to struggle and get injured he got it on with a bartender at the Crazy Horse and hasn't looked back. Can't blame the guy for wanting some, but you can't let that affect your hockey career. I still have a goal to get insanely drunk, go to the Crazy Horse, and yell and scream (maybe even shed a drunken man tear) at the girl and say she ruined the next Chris Pronger.

I think Hunter will fight for them to take Marner. He is a special player. People close to him think he is going to be an elite NHL player. He would be getting a lot more attention except for the unique talent of McDavid.
- spatso

Have a feeling Arizona takes Marner... they've got his two wingmen in their system already.

Based on point%, as of today, this is the top-10 order:
Buffalo
Edmonton
Carolina
Arizona
Toronto
Columbus
New Jersey
Ottawa
Colorado
Philly


Looking at the top-5, I think Buffalo goes McDavid, Edmonton goes Eichel, Carolina goes Hanifin, and TO goes Strome.

I would imagine next year is make it or break it for Cowen. I personally think he's just a 4/5 d-man. But he may take a leap.

It sounds silly, but I do think the sole reason for his crummy play is he plastic girlfriend. Around the time he began to struggle and get injured he got it on with a bartender at the Crazy Horse and hasn't looked back. Can't blame the guy for wanting some, but you can't let that affect your hockey career. I still have a goal to get insanely drunk, go to the Crazy Horse, and yell and scream (maybe even shed a drunken man tear) at the girl and say she ruined the next Chris Pronger.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Cowen has had injury issues since before the draft, big reason the Leafs didn't take him.

Have a feeling Arizona takes Marner... they've got his two wingmen in their system already.

Based on point%, as of today, this is the top-10 order:
Buffalo
Edmonton
Carolina
Arizona
Toronto
Columbus
New Jersey
Ottawa
Colorado
Philly


Looking at the top-5, I think Buffalo goes McDavid, Edmonton goes Eichel, Carolina goes Hanifin, and TO goes Strome.
- Feeling Glucky?

I think the top 5 are MCDavid, Eichel, Marner, Srtome and Provolov.

More changes will come.

Cowen has had injury issues since before the draft, big reason the Leafs didn't take him.
- Feeling Glucky?

He threw out his hip in the bedroom, obviously.

I know i've brought this up the last few days. however having a look at a few options (yes I know we have to draft and develop well) there are a could of players I think might be interesting to go after.

#1. Mike Richards - Yes he is well over paid and may not be able to keep up to the same level as he used to. However LA has said they would keep salary and reports say LA are sellers at the moment. I think Richards bring a touch grit and work ethic in his leadership that his team has been lacking for a long time. With a few years left on his contract that gives us enough time to develop our young guys into future stars.

#2. Nazam Kadri - He is young enough to still develop however he has the skill that i think fits Ottawa's team and he has burned us in the past when it comes to scoring on us. He is a guy who can put the puck in the net and when a team devotes to him, he does the same. I am sure he much be frustrated with the leafs at this point and Ottawa was thinking about taking him in the draft before the leafs did.

#3. Ryan O'Reilly - He has had trouble with the Ave's since day one when it comes to his contract. He is young, energetic and like Richards gritty. He fits right into Ottawa's system and could be a core player on our team for years to come.

#4. Michael Del Zotto - Philly is looking to get rid of him for no other reason then their cap troubles. He has the skill to be a top player and we could get him fairly cheap because of Philly's issues.

#5. Evander Kane - Even though he has just been traded. and this is very unlikely I do think it would be very interested if Ottawa had Buffalo flip him to us. That way Buffalo basically gets the other trades from the Jets for free and makes up for Kane. Tim Murray obviously has a history with Ottawa and Kane would fit perfectly into our system and with his injuries it works perfectly to give him time to smarten up before he starts playing for us.

#6. Neil Yakupov - A few years ago Yakupov came into the league as a star and many said he was going to be huge. But like many other star players in Edmonton they were never developed. I think because Edmonton has done so poorly Yakupov's price could be lower and Ottawa could really take advantage of his skill

thoughts and suggestions?

He threw out his hip in the bedroom, obviously.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

the more you know.
So we need to start a collection fund, to pay off this broad to dump his ass in a brutally embarrassing way. He'll be pissed for years hopefully.

I know i've brought this up the last few days. however having a look at a few options (yes I know we have to draft and develop well) there are a could of players I think might be interesting to go after.

#1. Mike Richards - Yes he is well over paid and may not be able to keep up to the same level as he used to. However LA has said they would keep salary and reports say LA are sellers at the moment. I think Richards bring a touch grit and work ethic in his leadership that his team has been lacking for a long time. With a few years left on his contract that gives us enough time to develop our young guys into future stars.

#2. Nazam Kadri - He is young enough to still develop however he has the skill that i think fits Ottawa's team and he has burned us in the past when it comes to scoring on us. He is a guy who can put the puck in the net and when a team devotes to him, he does the same. I am sure he much be frustrated with the leafs at this point and Ottawa was thinking about taking him in the draft before the leafs did.

#3. Ryan O'Reilly - He has had trouble with the Ave's since day one when it comes to his contract. He is young, energetic and like Richards gritty. He fits right into Ottawa's system and could be a core player on our team for years to come.

#4. Michael Del Zotto - Philly is looking to get rid of him for no other reason then their cap troubles. He has the skill to be a top player and we could get him fairly cheap because of Philly's issues.

#5. Evander Kane - Even though he has just been traded. and this is very unlikely I do think it would be very interested if Ottawa had Buffalo flip him to us. That way Buffalo basically gets the other trades from the Jets for free and makes up for Kane. Tim Murray obviously has a history with Ottawa and Kane would fit perfectly into our system and with his injuries it works perfectly to give him time to smarten up before he starts playing for us.

#6. Neil Yakupov - A few years ago Yakupov came into the league as a star and many said he was going to be huge. But like many other star players in Edmonton they were never developed. I think because Edmonton has done so poorly Yakupov's price could be lower and Ottawa could really take advantage of his skill

thoughts and suggestions?
- Maverick1818

Kadri's point totals are down this season because he's working on his defensive game, not because he's unhappy with the team.

the more you know.
So we need to start a collection fund, to pay off this broad to dumb his ass in a brutally embarrassing way. He'll be pissed for years hopefully.
- BruteSquad

Angry Cowen is the best Cowen.

Sexually satisfied Cowen is the worst Cowen.

I'll gladly donate funds to pay off the barbie.

Kadri's point totals are down this season because he's working on his defensive game, not because he's unhappy with the team.
- Feeling Glucky?

Every time contract stuff comes up with him and the leafs there is an argument. the leafs have treated him like crap for years. Why wouldn't he be unhappy

Have a feeling Arizona takes Marner... they've got his two wingmen in their system already.

Based on point%, as of today, this is the top-10 order:
Buffalo
Edmonton
Carolina
Arizona
Toronto
Columbus
New Jersey
Ottawa
Colorado
Philly


Looking at the top-5, I think Buffalo goes McDavid, Edmonton goes Eichel, Carolina goes Hanifin, and TO goes Strome.
- Feeling Glucky?

ARZ really doesn't need another D, I could see them nab Strome, either way, one of Strome or Marner could be had as the #5 pick. I'm envious as I'm pretty sure Ottawa will go later......unless.....Goooooo Lottery Balls.

Angry Cowen is the best Cowen.

Sexually satisfied Cowen is the worst Cowen.

I'll gladly donate funds to pay off the barbie.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I have seen Cowen angry once and he had a good game. But he would have to be angry 24-7 365 to be a good player. I still say we trade him

Every time contract stuff comes up with him and the leafs there is an argument. the leafs have treated him like crap for years. Why wouldn't he be unhappy
- Maverick1818

You're thinking Franson.


Wilson didn't treat him well, but he and Carlyle had no issues.

ARZ really doesn't need another D, I could see them nab Strome, either way, one of Strome or Marner could be had as the #5 pick. I'm envious as I'm pretty sure Ottawa will go later......unless.....Goooooo Lottery Balls.
- BruteSquad

I have them taking Marner, to go with their other Knights(who're on the same line as him).

You're thinking Franson.


Wilson didn't treat him well, but he and Carlyle had no issues.
- Feeling Glucky?

I think i'm thinking the majority of the team, Kadri, Franson, Riemer ect I feel bad for all of them. However I think Kadri could be a good pick up for us.

I think i'm thinking the majority of the team, Kadri, Franson, Riemer ect I feel bad for all of them. However I think Kadri could be a good pick up for us.
- Maverick1818

It's really not happening.


You can have Franson for your 1st though.

I know i've brought this up the last few days. however having a look at a few options (yes I know we have to draft and develop well) there are a could of players I think might be interesting to go after.

#1. Mike Richards - Yes he is well over paid and may not be able to keep up to the same level as he used to. However LA has said they would keep salary and reports say LA are sellers at the moment. I think Richards bring a touch grit and work ethic in his leadership that his team has been lacking for a long time. With a few years left on his contract that gives us enough time to develop our young guys into future stars.

#2. Nazam Kadri - He is young enough to still develop however he has the skill that i think fits Ottawa's team and he has burned us in the past when it comes to scoring on us. He is a guy who can put the puck in the net and when a team devotes to him, he does the same. I am sure he much be frustrated with the leafs at this point and Ottawa was thinking about taking him in the draft before the leafs did.

#3. Ryan O'Reilly - He has had trouble with the Ave's since day one when it comes to his contract. He is young, energetic and like Richards gritty. He fits right into Ottawa's system and could be a core player on our team for years to come.

#4. Michael Del Zotto - Philly is looking to get rid of him for no other reason then their cap troubles. He has the skill to be a top player and we could get him fairly cheap because of Philly's issues.

#5. Evander Kane - Even though he has just been traded. and this is very unlikely I do think it would be very interested if Ottawa had Buffalo flip him to us. That way Buffalo basically gets the other trades from the Jets for free and makes up for Kane. Tim Murray obviously has a history with Ottawa and Kane would fit perfectly into our system and with his injuries it works perfectly to give him time to smarten up before he starts playing for us.

#6. Neil Yakupov - A few years ago Yakupov came into the league as a star and many said he was going to be huge. But like many other star players in Edmonton they were never developed. I think because Edmonton has done so poorly Yakupov's price could be lower and Ottawa could really take advantage of his skill

thoughts and suggestions?
- Maverick1818

The only name that leaps out to me is Del Zotto. I wanted the Sens to take a chance on him when he could have been had for free basically. I'd still look to acquire him. By all accounts I've read, he has played pretty well, which may make him tougher to get/sign. He would be an upgrade over Boro/Gryba/Phillips/Wiercioch.

Richards is too complicated of a situation ($) for Ottawa to get involved with.

Leafs and Sens will likely never make a trade, ever. If we want Kadri, who are you giving up?

O'Reilly doesn't solve any problems. He would just be another 2nd line centre we ultimately become disappointed with because he is playing 1st line minutes. Again, who would you give up?

Kane is a Sabre for the next 5 years. Close to a perfect trade for the Sabres for what they want to do. They removed scoring from the line up this season, continue tanking for McDavid, and get a huge boost next season.

Yak should be stayed away from unless you can get him for Boro or something. The Sens don't have a great history of bringing in guys with lots of potential and trying to get their career off the ground a 2nd time round.

I have seen Cowen angry once and he had a good game. But he would have to be angry 24-7 365 to be a good player. I still say we trade him
- Maverick1818

His value right now is low. No sense in jumping to trade him just yet. I know we said it this year, but let's see what he can do next season.

The only name that leaps out to me is Del Zotto. I wanted the Sens to take a chance on him when he could have been had for free basically. I'd still look to acquire him. By all accounts I've read, he has played pretty well, which may make him tougher to get/sign. He would be an upgrade over Boro/Gryba/Phillips/Wiercioch.

Richards is too complicated of a situation ($) for Ottawa to get involved with.

Leafs and Sens will likely never make a trade, ever. If we want Kadri, who are you giving up?

O'Reilly doesn't solve any problems. He would just be another 2nd line centre we ultimately become disappointed with because he is playing 1st line minutes. Again, who would you give up?

Kane is a Sabre for the next 5 years. Close to a perfect trade for the Sabres for what they want to do. They removed scoring from the line up this season, continue tanking for McDavid, and get a huge boost next season.

Yak should be stayed away from unless you can get him for Boro or something. The Sens don't have a great history of bringing in guys with lots of potential and trying to get their career off the ground a 2nd time round.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

100% agree with Del Zotto and Kadi. These suggestions were more about the players and less about who Ottawa would be giving up or which team they are coming from. Although I still think the other players I listed are worth taking a look at. Yes they are bold moves but I really think Ottawa needs something bold to get us out of this slump we have been in since 2006

Leafs and Sens will likely never make a trade, ever. If we want Kadri, who are you giving up?

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Yea, Kadri isn't the type of guy you deal within-division, or conference, without getting an overpayment for. You know he'll come back to haunt you, even if he's just stepping it up vs your team.

His value right now is low. No sense in jumping to trade him just yet. I know we said it this year, but let's see what he can do next season.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

We have done that for how many years now. I just have a problem putting faith in someone who I don't feel is a good player. We brought him in hoping he would be another Chara and he has done nothing but let us down I say we cut our losses and see what we can get for him. or package him in a deal with a few players

100% agree with Del Zotto and Kadi. These suggestions were more about the players and less about who Ottawa would be giving up or which team they are coming from. Although I still think the other players I listed are worth taking a look at. Yes they are bold moves but I really think Ottawa needs something bold to get us out of this slump we have been in since 2006
- Maverick1818

Personally, if they make a bold move, I'd like to see a bigger name than any of those or a way to move up higher at the draft. Our 1st and Zibby or Lazar might be something that could move us up in the draft. Not top 2 or 3, but possibly top 5.

Yea, Kadri isn't the type of guy you deal within-division, or conference, without getting an overpayment for. You know he'll come back to haunt you, even if he's just stepping it up vs your team.
- Feeling Glucky?

The leafs are sellers right now and if they don't have faith in him then they shouldn't worry about him

Personally, if they make a bold move, I'd like to see a bigger name than any of those or a way to move up higher at the draft. Our 1st and Zibby or Lazar might be something that could move us up in the draft. Not top 2 or 3, but possibly top 5.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

any thoughts on what "big bold move" players you would be interested in trading for?