No we dont. Who projects to be a top 6 winger now?

We traded the two best goal scoring wing prospects we had for a guy whos attitude problems have disappeared over the last 72 hours
- sbroads24

I have a hard time believing Lemieux will become a goal scorer in the NHL but time will tell. Lots of guys scored a lot of goals bullying their way through Jr to only become 4th liners in the NHL.

Baptiste or Bailey are two that come to my mind.
- HonkFortheGoose

Neither have the skill Armia does

http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/02/12/whos-better-tyler-myers-zach-bogosian-advanced-stats-comparison
"Besides a birth year, here’s something else Bogosion and Myers have in common: an inability to think the game quickly enough in the defensive zone. This recent Bogosian (44) shift with Toby Enstrom (39)typifies, I think, the difference between a good, puck-moving No. 3 defenseman and Bogosian. He throws two needless body checks against players who no longer have the puck, as if the point of hockey is to amass hits, while Enstrom skates into position, forces an interception, and initiates a zone exit:"

The notion we got a more consistent player is false.
- sbroads24

That paragraph is a perfect example of the argument I was making earlier about being physical...

Neither have the skill Armia does
- sbroads24

Karabacek is a keeper

That paragraph is a perfect example of the argument I was making earlier about being physical...
- theblueandgold

Dont worry he has a fohawk and will hit people. Hes already a fan favorite

Neither have the skill Armia does
- sbroads24

At the end of the day, does Armia or Lemiuex become the player that Kane already shows or can become if he reaches his full potential? If not, it doesnt matter.

If the deal was Stafford, Armia, Lemieux and late 1st for Kane, I would have no regrets. The only logical reason Myers was even involved in the trade is because WPG clearly saw Myers as an upgrade to Bogo. Otherwise, whats the reason for making the swap on their end?

At the end of the day, does Armia or Lemiuex become the player that Kane already shows or can become if he reaches his full potential? If not, it doesnt matter.

If the deal was Stafford, Armia, Lemieux and late 1st for Kane, I would have no regrets. The only logical reason Myers was even involved in the trade is because WPG clearly saw Myers as an upgrade to Bogo. Otherwise, whats the reason for making the swap on their end?
- theblueandgold

Or does Kane all of the sudden not piss teammates off? Does he actually score 35-40 or does he do what hes done last two seasons

Or does Kane all of the sudden not piss teammates off? Does he actually score 35-40 or does he do what hes done last two seasons
- sbroads24

None of us actually know what happened there, so can you stop with the "attitude" issues? It's getting really old.

Unless you were in the room and saw it all happen, stop talking about it like you're the authority on the subject.

None of us actually know what happened there, so can you stop with the "attitude" issues? It's getting really old.

Unless you were in the room and saw it all happen, stop talking about it like you're the authority on the subject.
- HonkFortheGoose

Ill post what I feel like. Feel free to ignore

Or does Kane all of the sudden not piss teammates off? Does he actually score 35-40 or does he do what hes done last two seasons
- sbroads24

The whole Kane bad attitude is rumoured to have started when the old Hawks went to that franchise and alienated him. Who knows if thats true but my guess is we give him support rather than pissing in his cornflakes all the time.

I believe the paranoia about the goaltenders is more than a bit much at this time. Neuvirth will do just fine for a good team, yes assuming good health.

I believe he can easily handle the job. A backup is all they need, and one that can play a stretch of games when Neuvirth inevitably is injured.

WAh wah cry cry . Same @#% different day. Holy poop

The whole Kane bad attitude is rumoured to have started when the old Hawks went to that franchise and alienated him. Who knows if thats true but my guess is we give him support rather than pissing in his cornflakes all the time.
- BigStew

Yea, im fine with the fresh start attitude. Hes a question mark though. Not a sure fire top line LW

Yea, im fine with the fresh start attitude. Hes a question mark though. Not a sure fire top line LW
- sbroads24

But Armia is a sure fire top line winger right??

Yea, im fine with the fresh start attitude. Hes a question mark though. Not a sure fire top line LW
- sbroads24

And to me none of the guys we gave up with the exception of Myers are either. If we didn't give up the 1st I would really like the trade.

But Armia is a sure fire top line winger right??
- Cheeseballin

Are you dense?

We didnt get an established player, we got a what if. Exepct we traded a bunch of pieces for him. He isnt Nash, or Hall, or Tarasenko.

Or does Kane all of the sudden not piss teammates off? Does he actually score 35-40 or does he do what hes done last two seasons
- sbroads24

I think its plausible for him to mature, absolutely. Why wouldnt he? Its up to the veterans on THIS team. Hes coming into a new locker room. He no longer has a sense of entitlement for being there 6 years. He also never had a problem ON the ice. I do worry about off ice stuff, but I dont worry about the player on the ice.

Im not even billing him as a 35-40 goal scorer right away no matter who he plays with. I've heard that "he'll be an X goal scorer with a legit #1" too many times over the last 8 years to buy into that argument. He hasnt shown a consistency to even hit 20. And it really bothers me that through 6 seasons he only has 32 PP points.

Hes played in the NHL since he was 18. Hes only 23. He hasnt reached his potential. But he does play the game I like to see players play. I think he can be an Iginla-lite type of player. Thats the closest comparison I can make to his style of game, he'll be given every opportunity to become that.

Are you dense?

We didnt get an established player, we got a what if. Exepct we traded a bunch of pieces for him. He isnt Nash, or Hall, or Tarasenko.
- sbroads24

Dear lord. And with that I'm done I guess 109 goals,113 Assists isn't established anymore

I think its plausible for him to mature, absolutely. Why wouldnt he? Its up to the veterans on THIS team. Hes coming into a new locker room. He no longer has a sense of entitlement for being there 6 years. He also never had a problem ON the ice. I do worry about off ice stuff, but I dont worry about the player on the ice.

Im not even billing him as a 35-40 goal scorer right away no matter who he plays with. I've heard that "he'll be an X goal scorer with a legit #1" too many times over the last 8 years to buy into that argument. He hasnt shown a consistency to even hit 20. And it really bothers me that through 6 seasons he only has 32 PP points.

Hes played in the NHL since he was 18. Hes only 23. He hasnt reached his potential. But he does play the game I like to see players play. I think he can be an Iginla-lite type of player. Thats the closest comparison I can make to his style of game, he'll be given every opportunity to become that.
- theblueandgold

I have no doubt he can. Its the cost involved in seeing if he can

WAh wah cry cry . Same @#% different day. Holy poop
- Cheeseballin

The only posts coming from you are crying about the people crying. Youre equally if not more annoying as the people "crying" but providing actual content and discussion.

Dear lord. And with that I'm done I guess 109 goals,113 Assists isn't established anymore
- Cheeseballin

Yes dear lord is right. He was a healthy scratch and traded, not to mention injured again. Yea no risk at all...my.god

Dear lord. And with that I'm done I guess 109 goals,113 Assists isn't established anymore
- Cheeseballin

A lot of complaining about Tyler Ennis on this team, see him in a lot of peoples trade proposals, or comparing him to Afinogenov, yet he puts up equal production to EK9...

Yes dear lord is right. He was a healthy scratch and traded, not to mention injured again. Yea no risk at all...my.god
- sbroads24

Myers waas a healthy scratch and traded too. Good point.

A lot of complaining about Tyler Ennis on this team, see him in a lot of peoples trade proposals, or comparing him to Afinogenov, yet he puts up equal production to EK9...
- theblueandgold

People are complaining about Ennis? He is the one player I don't see people complaining about. Maybe I just ignore those posts.

A lot of complaining about Tyler Ennis on this team, see him in a lot of peoples trade proposals, or comparing him to Afinogenov, yet he puts up equal production to EK9...
- theblueandgold

I'v seen no one complain about Ennis. He has been the best player on this team by far.